Manager suggestions - Now with added poll

[The Edge]

Rumours on Twitter that we are sounding out st ettienes Oscar Garcia.  Never heard of him but he's not called Bruce, Pardew, Moyles or big Sam...get my vote

His team looks impressive in the vids. The high pressing game would need much more energy than we seem to have now but he's definitely the kind of progressive coach we should be looking at instead of stick in the mud old school English managers. He could be our Wagner. (not the composer)

The bloke from X Factor?

That's him!

[chrisw1]

Nothing like a continental name such as Garcia to get people who had never heard of him 24 hours ago to be utterly convinced he is the man for us.  It's so much more exotic than Monk & Rowett, surely he'll deliver us to the promised land?

Take a read of the Garde thread and you'll see exactly the same excitement (yes I know he got a rough deal, but could he have been shitter if he tried?)

[Sexual Ealing]

I know, right? Why don't people understand that we've already GONE FOREIGN. What more evidence do you need that it doesn't work?

[paul_e]

Nothing like a continental name such as Garcia to get people who had never heard of him 24 hours ago to be utterly convinced he is the man for us.  It's so much more exotic than Monk & Rowett, surely he'll deliver us to the promised land?

Take a read of the Garde thread and you'll see exactly the same excitement (yes I know he got a rough deal, but could he have been shitter if he tried?)

Yep getting excited because he's foreign is all it is, nothing to do with him having been part of the best coaching setup in the world (at Barca) or the fact that people have had a look at the style of play his teams and decided he looks a good option.  Even better you then give 2 names that most people on here would be largely in favour of if they were seriously linked.  Where there's been criticism of British 'usual suspects' has been around names like Allerdyce, Pardew, Moyes and their ilk who are from the same school as Bruce.

[OzVilla]

Take a read of the Garde thread and you'll see exactly the same excitement (yes I know he got a rough deal, but could he have been shitter if he tried?)

I think the poison right throughout the club was so great that I actually don't apportion any blame to Garde.

I think he'd be ideal for us now but I doubt either party would be interested. We're probably still paying him funnily enough.

[Clark W Griswold]

Well, he's certainly not stayed anywhere very long so I suppose he's an ideal fit for us from that point of view.

[Damo70]

I just looked up Garcia on Wiki. The translation into English was so poor I genuinely changed it back into Spanish so I could read it properly.

[chrisw1]

Take a read of the Garde thread and you'll see exactly the same excitement (yes I know he got a rough deal, but could he have been shitter if he tried?)

I think the poison right throughout the club was so great that I actually don't apportion any blame to Garde.

I think he'd be ideal for us now but I doubt either party would be interested. We're probably still paying him funnily enough.

He was utterly awful.  Yes it was a difficult situation but he added absolutely nothing.  If we had appointed Alardyce (who I am no great fan of) at the time you don't think we would have had a better shot at staying up?

If we appointed Garde again today, I suspect the results would be pretty similar to last time.  And this is my main concern about any gamble on a manager without experience in England - could be great, but the price we pay if we get it wrong is unthinkable.

[Proposition Joe]

I've heard a rumour - so how true it is is anyone's guess - thst Chris Coleman has been sounded out if Wales don't make the World Cup qualifying play-offs.

Nooooooo. F*ck off. (Not you Exeter77)

That was pretty much my reaction when the guy told me.

We may as well rename this thread "Bruce In?" because that's the reaction most of the names suggested bring.

[chrisw1]

Nothing like a continental name such as Garcia to get people who had never heard of him 24 hours ago to be utterly convinced he is the man for us.  It's so much more exotic than Monk & Rowett, surely he'll deliver us to the promised land?

Take a read of the Garde thread and you'll see exactly the same excitement (yes I know he got a rough deal, but could he have been shitter if he tried?)

Yep getting excited because he's foreign is all it is, nothing to do with him having been part of the best coaching setup in the world (at Barca) or the fact that people have had a look at the style of play his teams and decided he looks a good option.  Even better you then give 2 names that most people on here would be largely in favour of if they were seriously linked.  Where there's been criticism of British 'usual suspects' has been around names like Allerdyce, Pardew, Moyes and their ilk who are from the same school as Bruce.

The point I was making, albeit pretty tongue in cheek, is that a continental name always punches well above it's weight in the excitement stakes and yes, a lot of people getting worked up over him won't have heard of him before.  I do think if we end up with another Garde we're in big danger of being relegated, so  a Monk / Rowett type would be a lot safer, if less exciting.

[Dave]

And this is my main concern about any gamble on a manager without experience in England - could be great, but the price we pay if we get it wrong is unthinkable.

Given you didn't answer last time I asked, who is the manager with that experience in England that you don't consider to be gamble?

Who is it that means that the "price we pay if we get wrong" isn't a problem?

As from where I'm sitting, nailed-on, Championship promotion specialist Steve Bruce is looking a bit like a gamble that hasn't worked, no?

[Damo70]

Take a read of the Garde thread and you'll see exactly the same excitement (yes I know he got a rough deal, but could he have been shitter if he tried?)

I think the poison right throughout the club was so great that I actually don't apportion any blame to Garde.

I think he'd be ideal for us now but I doubt either party would be interested. We're probably still paying him funnily enough.

He was utterly awful.  Yes it was a difficult situation but he added absolutely nothing.  If we had appointed Alardyce (who I am no great fan of) at the time you don't think we would have had a better shot at staying up?

If we appointed Garde again today, I suspect the results would be pretty similar to last time.  And this is my main concern about any gamble on a manager without experience in England - could be great, but the price we pay if we get it wrong is unthinkable.

In the situation we were in we definitely needed an Allardyce as opposed to a Garde. Remember Garde came in with plenty of time to spare and actually made us worse than under Lambert and Sherwood.

[OzVilla]

Take a read of the Garde thread and you'll see exactly the same excitement (yes I know he got a rough deal, but could he have been shitter if he tried?)

I think the poison right throughout the club was so great that I actually don't apportion any blame to Garde.

I think he'd be ideal for us now but I doubt either party would be interested. We're probably still paying him funnily enough.

If we had appointed Alardyce (who I am no great fan of) at the time you don't think we would have had a better shot at staying up?

Yes Allerdyce then would have given us more chance of staying up but I think I'd prefer a Garde type appointment now. 

[Damo70]

Take a read of the Garde thread and you'll see exactly the same excitement (yes I know he got a rough deal, but could he have been shitter if he tried?)

I think the poison right throughout the club was so great that I actually don't apportion any blame to Garde.

I think he'd be ideal for us now but I doubt either party would be interested. We're probably still paying him funnily enough.

If we had appointed Alardyce (who I am no great fan of) at the time you don't think we would have had a better shot at staying up?

Yes Allerdyce then would have given us more chance of staying up but I think I'd prefer a Garde type appointment now.

It appears that Garcia would be a Garde type appointment. Is it asking too much to find a foreign manager with a half decent CV/track record?

Four games in charge of Watford and fifty three games in charge of Brighton and he averaged a point a game. If this was Dragon's Den I would definitely be saying "I'm out".

[OzVilla]

Take a read of the Garde thread and you'll see exactly the same excitement (yes I know he got a rough deal, but could he have been shitter if he tried?)

I think the poison right throughout the club was so great that I actually don't apportion any blame to Garde.

I think he'd be ideal for us now but I doubt either party would be interested. We're probably still paying him funnily enough.

He was utterly awful.  Yes it was a difficult situation but he added absolutely nothing.  If we had appointed Alardyce (who I am no great fan of) at the time you don't think we would have had a better shot at staying up?

If we appointed Garde again today, I suspect the results would be pretty similar to last time.  And this is my main concern about any gamble on a manager without experience in England - could be great, but the price we pay if we get it wrong is unthinkable.

In the situation we were in we definitely needed an Allardyce as opposed to a Garde. Remember Garde came in with plenty of time to spare and actually made us worse than under Lambert and Sherwood.

We were a shambles that made 1986/7 look like the Edinburgh tattoo in comparison. To give Garde  his first job in English football summed up how clueless we were. But he might be what we need now had he been left in France.