Manager suggestions - Now with added poll

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Go and fetch De Boer. I would bet a fair bit that Wyness will go for Moyes mind.

One can hope that in that scenario, Wyness wanting Moyes and Dr Tone wanting De Boer, the good Dr tells Wyness to fuck off and close the door behind him!

The idea of De Boer turning up with a point to prove works for me.

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The BBC article suggests an aloof Dutch RDM who created a Lambert bomb squad in under two months. Impressive.

[cheltenhamlion]

The BBC article suggests an aloof Dutch RDM who created a Lambert bomb squad in under two months. Impressive.

What he did at Ajax suggests a bloke with confidence in his ability, who can deal with big expectations, is tactically astute and can nurture the kids.

Don't let the door hit you on the arse Steve.

[Matt Collins]

Ajax is a unique club, a bit like Barca

They produce countless players and coaches steeped in a specific way of playing. They often find it harder to coach elsewhere - not always of course

Massive risk for me

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A club he knew the very fabric of. Much like Moyes is a busted flush, there's every chance De Boer is after successive failures.

[Matt Collins]

So are we going to get to 100 pages without a genuinely impressive and obtainable option here?

[ozzjim]

Sherwood would actually make a great number 2 if he was not so it for himself that he would undermine the boss to get the gig. 

[Chinchilla Bathhouse]

Who would you suggest then, Matt? Do you honestly think Bruce is the best option we have?

[KRS]

I disagree. His role at Swindon didn't work out too well. He's best kept nowhere near our club.

[Dante Lavelli]

Depending on how true this is, he'd either be a disaster or a masterstroke I reckon.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41229891

Blimey, someone had some pretty specific intel there. 

Reading between the lines, De Boer was probably used to having a pretty ajax-like structure at ajax, with Cocu (?) having a hands-on involvement and also their established training/youth system.  All he had to do was coach the first team.  Whereas in the UK, despite dougie freedman, the manager is typically responsible for a larger number roles at more levels of the club. 

As Villa are more Inter than Ajax I'd expect him to fail again based on that article.

[QuintonVilla]

The Palace players alllegedly found De Boer 'weird'. In other words he asked a bunch of cloggers, used to Allardyce etc, to try and pass the ball and they didn't have a clue what he was on about.

[Dave]

Sherwood would actually make a great number 2

I've always thought of him as a complete number 2.

[paul_e]

From that article there are 2 that I think reflect really badly on the club, the bit about not sticking to formations and the bit about the involvement of the chairman in the team.  Aside from that most of it seems to be that they wanted someone who would do exactly as he was told and pick the team that the board wanted.

As for how he'd do I think if we want to go with the whole Engine idea and we've been working to setup that sort of structure he'd be the right sort of manager to be at the top.  It is slightly concerning that he had a bad time at Inter but I wouldn't judge him on his time at Palace, it sounds very much like they didn't ever really want him and didn't do much to hide the fact.

Dante, Cocu is at PSV not Ajax and has done a very good job with them.


Matt you keep saying there are no impressive and obtainable options but it appears that your criteria for the latter is very strictly limited to not include most of the more impressive options.  I agree that if we have a narrow search of 'championship experience' and out of work then the options are pretty shitty but if that's the approach the board would take then Wyness and Round are a bigger problem than Bruce and I don't think we can say that for certain just yet.

[ozzjim]

Sherwood would actually make a great number 2

I've always thought of him as a complete number 2.

Well yes. It's what stops him actually being any good.  But her has traits that would suit the role. Being a self absorbed slopey shouldered shit bag is his weakness.

[Dante Lavelli]

What was the story about Tuchel leaving Dortmund?  Their results weren't that bad, considering the last season with Klopp, were they?  And the story since, for that matter.  I don't think his record is *that* good that he can simply sit and wait for a top club to come in for him. 

If we offered him a 'top club' wage - like most english clubs do compared to europe - then he might be tempted, surely?