Manager suggestions - Now with added poll

[sirlordbaltimore]

Leeds seemed to have done some searching and found what appears to be a decent manager who was unknown to most.

How many failed attempts have they had at doing just that??

The day we hold Leeds up as a paradigm to follow is the day we truly are doomed.

This. Plus they've played SEVEN matches. Lets see if he's still a decent manager after 46

[mr underhill]

Sam worships at the alter of wealth - he was trousering  Midas- like riches from the FA but still wasn't averse to a few hundred thousand on the side in The Telegraph sting. With him money doesn't talk it swears ; offer him enough and he'll come running

[Chico Hamilton III]

Leeds seemed to have done some searching and found what appears to be a decent manager who was unknown to most.

How many failed attempts have they had at doing just that??

The day we hold Leeds up as a paradigm to follow is the day we truly are doomed.

Exactly - the law of averages dictates that they'll end up with someone half decent if they play the numbers game.

Quick wiki check tells me they've had 22 managers since O'Leary left, 15 years ago. And probably as many owners. In fact, they're just about the only club that make Villa look like a steady ship

[passitsideways]

You don't have to use Leeds as an example. I'm sure there's plenty of recent examples of Championship clubs making a good hire after thinking outside the box a little. Wagner is obviously the big example, but looking back, Jokanovic was initially hired at Watford after having being sacked at Levski Sofia and Hercules in quick succession; Karanka was hired based off his work as an assistant at Madrid, having not been first-team manager anywhere.

Obviously there have been plenty of flops as well - Zenga, Montanier, etc. from just last season - but that's still not the greatest reason to just stick to the tried and tested market.

[Drummond]

Quite. There really is no guarantee of anything as far as managers go.

Some need to spend loads of money, some need the right coach, some need a Director of Football, some want to coach, some are young and hungry, some understand tradition, some don't give a toss, and it goes on. I've no doubt that a number of our failed managers would have worked given the right circumstances, or the right structure.

Look at Swansea, they had a series of what you'd call successful managers but they were inheriting a system that worked and could add a little something of their own to it. That's what the Villa Engine is all about. The trick for us is to find the right person to start it all off.

I genuinely thought Bruce could do that for a while, but having watched last night's increasingly desperate changes in formation and position for the players, Davies and Adomah being shuffled for example, and I'm really not sure he's got the bottle.

We need to get some confidence from somewhere, the fans need something to enjoy and the reality is there has been far too little of that for a long time.

Anyway, I'd offer it to Alex Ferguson.

[Billy Walker]

What about Marcelo Gallardo, current manager of River Plate and tipped to be the next Diego Simeone?  A bit of a punt, admittedly.

[Axl Rose]

Quite. There really is no guarantee of anything as far as managers go.

Some need to spend loads of money, some need the right coach, some need a Director of Football, some want to coach, some are young and hungry, some understand tradition, some don't give a toss, and it goes on. I've no doubt that a number of our failed managers would have worked given the right circumstances, or the right structure.

Look at Swansea, they had a series of what you'd call successful managers but they were inheriting a system that worked and could add a little something of their own to it. That's what the Villa Engine is all about. The trick for us is to find the right person to start it all off.

I genuinely thought Bruce could do that for a while, but having watched last night's increasingly desperate changes in formation and position for the players, Davies and Adomah being shuffled for example, and I'm really not sure he's got the bottle.

We need to get some confidence from somewhere, the fans need something to enjoy and the reality is there has been far too little of that for a long time.

Anyway, I'd offer it to Alex Ferguson.

Ferguson! Interesting shout. He  certainly couldn't be any worse than the current incumbent.

How about Gus Hiddink, Chris Coleman, O' Neil the Northern Ireland manager, or Mancini?

[Rudy Can't Fail]

What about Marcelo Gallardo, current manager of River Plate and tipped to be the next Diego Simeone?  A bit of a punt, admittedly.

He's looking to coach in Europe but will only be available in December when his contract ends.

[john e]

I'm awarding myself a trophy for Worst Attempt to Prevent Further Debate on a Topic.

Yay, go me.🏆

Only trophy we'll be seeing around here this year!

especially now our award winning groundsmans fucked off

[cdbearsfan]

I remember when he won that award, the whole of the Barton's was going crazy. Halcyon days, we thought they'd go on forever.

We were wrong.

[john e]

SKY BREAKING NEWS -

just in from Aston Villa - they are to appeal the Lansbury sending off


oh do fuck of getting my hopes up  (although Natalie Sawyer is awesome today)

[cheltenhamlion]

Regardless of your views on his retirement or not, Allardyce is not the answer. He was the answer for a couple of years when we appointed Garde and Sherwood. Organise. Stabilise. Piss off in favour of someone more attacking.

We can't bore our way out of this league. We have to make use of the attacking talent at our disposal and play high energy, front foot football.

This would ideally be with a manager with a modern approach, used to developing youngsters and who won't shit a brick at the expectations here.

There is nothing wrong with an old fashioned win at home and draw away approach but you have to give yourself a chance by attacking.

Hoping not to concede away is why our record on the road under Bruce is so bloody dreadful. Three away wins in his entire tenure. Deary me.

It strikes me that the old school British managers are great at grinding results out but more suited to doing so in the top flight where you expect to be up against it. That isn't going to work to get you up.

Go and fetch De Boer. I would bet a fair bit that Wyness will go for Moyes mind.

[john e]

i always felt that Randy's reign ended in abject failure because of the people he employed,
this was his shout, he chose them and gave them a free hand especially in the later years as he wasn't hands on, it was the best gig many of them will ever have because there was little or no outside interference,
and they all fucked up every last one of them, and that's still down to Lerner because they were his chosen ones, all of them not just managers

so we have Bruce, Wyness and Round we know little about the new owner but we like him but lets face it with at least two of those choices its Lerner all over again

investment, ideas, philosophies, plans projects and anything to do with engines will all be totally irrelevant and pointless unless he gets his picks in those 3 key area's spot on
unfortunately for all his business acumen he's made some massive mistakes already and that's worrying

[dave shelley]

Regardless of your views on his retirement or not, Allardyce is not the answer. He was the answer for a couple of years when we appointed Garde and Sherwood. Organise. Stabilise. Piss off in favour of someone more attacking.

We can't bore our way out of this league. We have to make use of the attacking talent at our disposal and play high energy, front foot football.

This would ideally be with a manager with a modern approach, used to developing youngsters and who won't shit a brick at the expectations here.

There is nothing wrong with an old fashioned win at home and draw away approach but you have to give yourself a chance by attacking.

Hoping not to concede away is why our record on the road under Bruce is so bloody dreadful. Three away wins in his entire tenure. Deary me.

It strikes me that the old school British managers are great at grinding results out but more suited to doing so in the top flight where you expect to be up against it. That isn't going to work to get you up.

Go and fetch De Boer. I would bet a fair bit that Wyness will go for Moyes mind.

Regardless of your views on his retirement or not, Allardyce is not the answer. He was the answer for a couple of years when we appointed Garde and Sherwood. Organise. Stabilise. Piss off in favour of someone more attacking.

We can't bore our way out of this league. We have to make use of the attacking talent at our disposal and play high energy, front foot football.

This would ideally be with a manager with a modern approach, used to developing youngsters and who won't shit a brick at the expectations here.

There is nothing wrong with an old fashioned win at home and draw away approach but you have to give yourself a chance by attacking.

Hoping not to concede away is why our record on the road under Bruce is so bloody dreadful. Three away wins in his entire tenure. Deary me.

It strikes me that the old school British managers are great at grinding results out but more suited to doing so in the top flight where you expect to be up against it. That isn't going to work to get you up.

Go and fetch De Boer. I would bet a fair bit that Wyness will go for Moyes mind.

One can hope that in that scenario, Wyness wanting Moyes and Dr Tone wanting De Boer, the good Dr tells Wyness to fuck off and close the door behind him!

[curiousorange]

As much as I want us to hire the next Ron Saunders, I would take any manager who gets us out of this meek, glad-to-be-at-this-level mentality. A Sherwood who knows what a defence is would be a start.