Manager suggestions - Now with added poll

[ozzjim]

I don't think he's the man for us. There are many reasons why I wouldn't want him as our manager. But, you have to respect that what he's doing with Brentford is incredible. There's been plenty of clubs who have had a meteoric rise beyond their natural position. What normally happens is that they lose their manager and/or best players and end up back where they came from. Brentford seem to lose their best players twice a season, yet they're still surviving at least a division above where they should be even after the momentum that took them there has gone. For that he deserves a lot more respect than a grudging "they're only 23rd".

i read their forum, it appears they only really have one but nobody blamed him for where they were. Quite the opposite; they all felt sorry for him. He certainly deserves and has their respect. Could he have our's? Could he honestly do any worse than our present manager?

Football is a lottery. It's so much about the right person being there at the right time. Ask Ron Saunders.

Unless we can go and lure someobe like Jokanovic who clearly is very decent, we are going to have to gamble.  Who will come in October? Who has a record that would take us to the play offs? Pardew maybe? Horrible thought but pretty good at getting a bounce. Give me Villa playing like Brentford did at the weekend and i would be quite happy right now. 

[Rudy Can't Fail]

I don't think he's the man for us. There are many reasons why I wouldn't want him as our manager. But, you have to respect that what he's doing with Brentford is incredible. There's been plenty of clubs who have had a meteoric rise beyond their natural position. What normally happens is that they lose their manager and/or best players and end up back where they came from. Brentford seem to lose their best players twice a season, yet they're still surviving at least a division above where they should be even after the momentum that took them there has gone. For that he deserves a lot more respect than a grudging "they're only 23rd".

i read their forum, it appears they only really have one but nobody blamed him for where they were. Quite the opposite; they all felt sorry for him. He certainly deserves and has their respect. Could he have our's? Could he honestly do any worse than our present manager?

Football is a lottery. It's so much about the right person being there at the right time. Ask Ron Saunders.

Unless we can go and lure someobe like Jokanovic who clearly is very decent, we are going to have to gamble.  Who will come in October? Who has a record that would take us to the play offs? Pardew maybe? Horrible thought but pretty good at getting a bounce. Give me Villa playing like Brentford did at the weekend and i would be quite happy right now. 

It's why Bruce should have gone last May. Stability comes with a price.

[passitsideways]

I don't think he's the man for us. There are many reasons why I wouldn't want him as our manager. But, you have to respect that what he's doing with Brentford is incredible. There's been plenty of clubs who have had a meteoric rise beyond their natural position. What normally happens is that they lose their manager and/or best players and end up back where they came from. Brentford seem to lose their best players twice a season, yet they're still surviving at least a division above where they should be even after the momentum that took them there has gone. For that he deserves a lot more respect than a grudging "they're only 23rd".

i read their forum, it appears they only really have one but nobody blamed him for where they were. Quite the opposite; they all felt sorry for him. He certainly deserves and has their respect. Could he have our's? Could he honestly do any worse than our present manager?

Football is a lottery. It's so much about the right person being there at the right time. Ask Ron Saunders.

Unless we can go and lure someobe like Jokanovic who clearly is very decent, we are going to have to gamble.  Who will come in October? Who has a record that would take us to the play offs? Pardew maybe? Horrible thought but pretty good at getting a bounce. Give me Villa playing like Brentford did at the weekend and i would be quite happy right now.

Karanka took over Boro in November 2013 - they didn't go anywhere that season but made the playoff final after that, and then automatic promotion. Stunk up the joint in the Premier League, of course, but that bridge can be crossed after we get there.

[ChicagoLion]

I don't think he's the man for us. There are many reasons why I wouldn't want him as our manager. But, you have to respect that what he's doing with Brentford is incredible. There's been plenty of clubs who have had a meteoric rise beyond their natural position. What normally happens is that they lose their manager and/or best players and end up back where they came from. Brentford seem to lose their best players twice a season, yet they're still surviving at least a division above where they should be even after the momentum that took them there has gone. For that he deserves a lot more respect than a grudging "they're only 23rd".

i read their forum, it appears they only really have one but nobody blamed him for where they were. Quite the opposite; they all felt sorry for him. He certainly deserves and has their respect. Could he have our's? Could he honestly do any worse than our present manager?

Football is a lottery. It's so much about the right person being there at the right time. Ask Ron Saunders.

Unless we can go and lure someobe like Jokanovic who clearly is very decent, we are going to have to gamble.  Who will come in October? Who has a record that would take us to the play offs? Pardew maybe? Horrible thought but pretty good at getting a bounce. Give me Villa playing like Brentford did at the weekend and i would be quite happy right now. 

It's why Bruce should have gone last May. Stability comes with a price.

Yep
That stability arguement is looking quite stale right now.
He has stabilised us as a mid table 2nd Division team.
I think our promotion chances were damned as soon as the chancers running the club Decided to back Bruce through the summer.
I doubt that we can make an appointment to turn this around.

[Matt Collins]

Roger Schmidt? Seems to be managing in China. Not sure why

I'd have thought like many others on the list above that there's no chance he'd come, and I imagine he's on a massive salary, but I don't see too many credible candidates so thought I'd add it to the mix

[passitsideways]

Roger Schmidt? Seems to be managing in China. Not sure why

I'd have thought like many others on the list above that there's no chance he'd come, and I imagine he's on a massive salary, but I don't see too many credible candidates so thought I'd add it to the mix

Imagine some of the plodders in our team playing the mad-cap pressing football he partook in at Leverkusen.

[Matt Collins]

There is something wrong in this world of ours where 47 posters want Dean Smith and only 15 Thomas Tuchel.

I'd love Tuchel

I didn't vote for him because it's not realistic. He was linked with the Chelsea job in the summer

[Matt Collins]

Roger Schmidt? Seems to be managing in China. Not sure why

I'd have thought like many others on the list above that there's no chance he'd come, and I imagine he's on a massive salary, but I don't see too many credible candidates so thought I'd add it to the mix

Imagine some of the plodders in our team playing the mad-cap pressing football he partook in at Leverkusen.

Yeah that's true - you'd see the thirty something's dropped and that might be a problem at centre back

I reckon it would be Karanka - which is basically an attempt at doing the same thing - or we wait till someone else becomes available

I can't see us going for Dean Smith for all the reasons above. I spoke to a Brentford fan a couple of weeks ago who was a bit "meh" about him.

[passport1]

Sean Dyche sounds like the man for us,Two shots on target  for Burnley vs Palace. The SB legacy will be safe in his hands.

[ROBBO]

The reason I believe Allardyce can do the job is related to Dave's latest article, I think Fat Sam would scare some Villa players shitless. That's why I really believe they need a nasty bastard to get them fired up.
I thought we had bought leaders to the club as of now I see little evidence of it.

[passitsideways]

Roger Schmidt? Seems to be managing in China. Not sure why

I'd have thought like many others on the list above that there's no chance he'd come, and I imagine he's on a massive salary, but I don't see too many credible candidates so thought I'd add it to the mix

Imagine some of the plodders in our team playing the mad-cap pressing football he partook in at Leverkusen.

Yeah that's true - you'd see the thirty something's dropped and that might be a problem at centre back

I reckon it would be Karanka - which is basically an attempt at doing the same thing - or we wait till someone else becomes available

I can't see us going for Dean Smith for all the reasons above. I spoke to a Brentford fan a couple of weeks ago who was a bit "meh" about him.

Karanka had a reputation as being a bit of a dullard even in the Championship, I think. 9th and 8th in terms of goals scored, even though they finished 4th and 2nd respectively in those two seasons.

I mean, I don't give a crap about playing champagne football or anything, but that was essentially Bruce's remit, and also I'm not sure it's the sort of squad capable of eking out those kinds of results. The back 4 looks dodgy, and our best midfielders' strengths lie in relation to going forward.

[ozzjim]

Boro were ultra mean at the back think only 30 conceded the season they went up. Not sure he's the right fit for us. Got to be envious of Wolves getting a manager who clearly has a clue about how to attack. Rowett and Monk doing good jobs again this season. Yet we can't string 2 halves of decent football together let alone 2 games. Both of those had to shape their team in less time than Bruce has. Derby even lost Ince but still cantered past Hull 5 nil.

Interesting that during the international break Smith was on the training ground coaching while Bruce was on the beach in Portugal.

[paul_e]

Roger Schmidt? Seems to be managing in China. Not sure why

I'd have thought like many others on the list above that there's no chance he'd come, and I imagine he's on a massive salary, but I don't see too many credible candidates so thought I'd add it to the mix

The bold bit is what i have a problem with.  Wolves have a guy who was at Porto and Valencia as his last 2 jobs and yet we are limited to looking at people like Smith because decent managers apparently aren't credible.

A credible manager is anyone that the board can convince to come in and I'd like to think they'll at least start with their sights a bit higher than a villa fan who's doing a decent job at Brentford or the management dole queue.  If they don't I think we may as well settle in as a championship mid-table club because we'll be going nowhere. 

[tomd2103]

The reason I believe Allardyce can do the job is related to Dave's latest article, I think Fat Sam would scare some Villa players shitless. That's why I really believe they need a nasty bastard to get them fired up.
I thought we had bought leaders to the club as of now I see little evidence of it.

That's exactly what Bruce was supposed to do when he arrived.  That doesn't seem to have happened and worse still, many of the wasters that he was supposedly going to sort out are still here contributing nothing. 

Reading that interview with Wyness, the overall vision is built around young players at the club coming through so I think we would need a manger who will buy into and embrace that philosophy and I don't think Allardyce, Moyes etc. are that type.  As someone wrote in the Wyness thread, why not start working on the vision now so it is already in place if / when we do go up?

[aj2k77]

How can a ''Villa Engine'' work? With all youth levels and the first team being based around the same style of play with Bruce in charge? Are we going to train everyone throughout the club how to play dull, defensive, boring football? It's just another sound bite released again when things are a bit shit to gee everyone up and make us think they know what they are doing.