Manager suggestions - Now with added poll

[Sexual Ealing]

It's still a bit of a risk tho isn't it!

It is. Whereas sticking with this prick is a guaranteed future exactly where we are.

[Matt Collins]

I do think he's rapidly running out of time. Do I have to start calling him a prick, or an idiot, or a twat now?

[Sexual Ealing]

Entirely up to you mate.

[cdbearsfan]

Reading Smith talking about dominating the ball and using their movement to get their higher midfielders in behind makes me very jealous.

Talking about it is all well and good. If they actually did it, they'd be higher than twenty-third.

They would be had they taken their chances this season.  Last season they had a striker doing that. 23rd and played us off the park.

They only finished mid-table last year (and the year below that), having finished fifth the year before Smith arrived.

Playing us off the park is no criteria to select a manager.

Yes, Brentford have done well AGAINST VILLA. They don't do it week in, week out, or they'd wouldn't he languishing below Burton Albion.

[dave.woodhall]

Reading Smith talking about dominating the ball and using their movement to get their higher midfielders in behind makes me very jealous.

Talking about it is all well and good. If they actually did it, they'd be higher than twenty-third.

They would be had they taken their chances this season.  Last season they had a striker doing that. 23rd and played us off the park.

They only finished mid-table last year (and the year below that), having finished fifth the year before Smith arrived.

Playing us off the park is no criteria to select a manager.

Yes, Brentford have done well AGAINST VILLA. They don't do it week in, week out, or they'd wouldn't he languishing below Burton Albion.

They finished above us last season.

[cdbearsfan]

So? We were shit last season.

[dave.woodhall]

This time next week they could be above us again.

[SoccerHQ]

Brentford are massively overachieving being competitive in this division. If they get relegated no one really blinks an eyelid just like when Burton go down this season.

I'd say Smith has done a steady job there like he's done at Walsall. Not amazing like Warburton getting them into the top 6 but two mid table finishes well clear of relegation with their transfer model is solid enough.

One outsider no-one is mentioning is Chris Wilder at Sheffield United, his win ratio last few years is off the scale at Northampton and Sheffield United and they've adapted well to this division.

[cdbearsfan]

This time next week they could be above us again.

Maybe. But they still wouldn't be anywhere particularly good. I'm not saying he's done badly, but I just don't get that he's done particularly well, either.

I reckon if we were linked with Nigel Clough or Phil Parkinson most on this thread would be bemoaning our lack of ambition. And yet both, arguably, have achieved more than Smith.

People seem to be blinded by the fact that his team raise their game against us. His managerial career is okay, maybe quite good if you're being generous. He may well prove to be a good manager in the future. At the moment, though, I see insufficient evidence that he is likely to be the man to get us promoted.

[SoccerHQ]

I actually agree with you cb.

I saw many games when he was at Walsall and he infuriated plenty of fans with just sticking rigidly to his style of play although that system of actually attempting to pass the ball would be more pleasing on the eye than the dirge we're watching.

I like him as a manager but not sure he'd be a great fit for where we are now. Can't say I can think of an ideal candidate though.

[dave.woodhall]

I don't think he's the man for us. There are many reasons why I wouldn't want him as our manager. But, you have to respect that what he's doing with Brentford is incredible. There's been plenty of clubs who have had a meteoric rise beyond their natural position. What normally happens is that they lose their manager and/or best players and end up back where they came from. Brentford seem to lose their best players twice a season, yet they're still surviving at least a division above where they should be even after the momentum that took them there has gone. For that he deserves a lot more respect than a grudging "they're only 23rd".

[olaftab]

There is something wrong in this world of ours where 47 posters want Dean Smith and only 15 Thomas Tuchel.

[olaftab]

So? We were shit last season.

And even shitter this season.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

I don't think he's the man for us. There are many reasons why I wouldn't want him as our manager. But, you have to respect that what he's doing with Brentford is incredible. There's been plenty of clubs who have had a meteoric rise beyond their natural position. What normally happens is that they lose their manager and/or best players and end up back where they came from. Brentford seem to lose their best players twice a season, yet they're still surviving at least a division above where they should be even after the momentum that took them there has gone. For that he deserves a lot more respect than a grudging "they're only 23rd".

i read their forum, it appears they only really have one but nobody blamed him for where they were. Quite the opposite; they all felt sorry for him. He certainly deserves and has their respect. Could he have our's? Could he honestly do any worse than our present manager?

Football is a lottery. It's so much about the right person being there at the right time. Ask Ron Saunders.

[dave.woodhall]

I don't think he's the man for us. There are many reasons why I wouldn't want him as our manager. But, you have to respect that what he's doing with Brentford is incredible. There's been plenty of clubs who have had a meteoric rise beyond their natural position. What normally happens is that they lose their manager and/or best players and end up back where they came from. Brentford seem to lose their best players twice a season, yet they're still surviving at least a division above where they should be even after the momentum that took them there has gone. For that he deserves a lot more respect than a grudging "they're only 23rd".

i read their forum, it appears they only really have one but nobody blamed him for where they were. Quite the opposite; they all felt sorry for him. He certainly deserves and has their respect. Could he have our's? Could he honestly do any worse than our present manager?

Football is a lottery. It's so much about the right person being there at the right time. Ask Ron Saunders.

That's a good point. Sometimes it's not so much about the right man as the right time. Put Claudio Ranieri in at Leicester a year or two either side of when he was actually there and he would have been mid-table at best. Instead, he gave them arguably the greatest managerial performance in history. Jo Venglos five years later could have been a completely different character to the one we endured. If Graham Turner had spent time at Wolves before rather than after he left us he might have been different entirely. It's all about timing.