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Offline Risso

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Re: Manager suggestions
« Reply #45 on: August 13, 2017, 12:55:37 PM »
There is no chance whatsoever that Dyche would come.  Others in a job would also be very difficult 2 games into the season.  We'll be really scraping the barrel if we pull the trigger now.

We probably will, but not pulling the trigger now would be even worse.

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Re: Manager suggestions
« Reply #46 on: August 13, 2017, 01:00:46 PM »
As this is the most important season for a very long time then then people are looking for a change, desperate situation calls for desperate decision (?) In any other season I doubt we would be talking about changing manager now.

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Re: Manager suggestions
« Reply #47 on: August 13, 2017, 01:02:02 PM »
I am with Monty on this.  If we are doomed never to be promoted like Forest and Leeds let's enjoy our games. This football diet of spuds, cabbage and pig's feet (waiter do you have pig's feet?  No sir, it's the shoes) is killing me.  How about accepting defeat providing we are entertained.  Let's get a manager who is not terrified of losing but is terrified of getting the Bolton treatment for inflicting endless boredom on us.  Actually, playing Samba at centre forward against Hull was the only unpredictable thing Bruce has ever done in his time with us.


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Re: Manager suggestions
« Reply #48 on: August 13, 2017, 01:28:15 PM »
As stated by Des,the most essential part of the equation, is that we get someone whom can bring with him his own proven coaching team.Whatever happens at BMH ,appears to be to the detriment of previously proven players.

For all their failures,neither Sherwood,Garde nor Bruce have rocked up with their first choice coaching teams.In fact,I'd suspect that only Lambert and Pubey have had that luxury at the beginning of their tenure.Attempting to change at this time of the season is going to be problematic in this regard...and expensive.

Jokanovic appears to tick most of the checklist,but he's going to be extremely expensive in these terms to prise away.Or rather his team is on top

Which leads us to essentially two modes of action...Do we look for the (semi) proven,English speaking,English knowledge based,preferably unemployed, option of an Allardyce,Karanka or Pardew....All, despite their limitations have proven to improve teams on a short term basis and all would be interested.

Jokanovic,just like Martinez and Sousa at Swansea,just like Pochitetto and Koeman at Southampton was a leap by Watford into the unknown.They have had 6 managers in the past 7 years...everyone has built on the past one,and dragged them to near the top of the relatively mid table league upstairs.Despite
renewing a squad every season they have overtaken us in a similar fashion to Southampton.A 21st century approach to management,style and player recruitment has left us in their wake.









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Re: Manager suggestions
« Reply #49 on: August 13, 2017, 01:28:22 PM »
Brian, I get what you are saying but I'm not willing personally to lower expectations even further to the point of accepting defeat as long as we play some decent stuff. The road back will not be taken by accepting defeat. The day we do that we might as well shut up shop as we will be nothing more than a poor value entertainment venue.

I'm at my lowest ebb with Villa right now.

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Re: Manager suggestions
« Reply #50 on: August 13, 2017, 01:38:54 PM »
There's a Englishman doing well in Sweden, trouble is he's a ex Blue Graham Potter, his team have just knocked Galatassary out of Europe.

Offline Dante Lavelli

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Re: Manager suggestions
« Reply #51 on: August 13, 2017, 02:01:04 PM »
Bielsa please.  He can bring a young coach with him to become the next Guardiola/Pochettino.

He's mental and plays great football.  Given full autonomy and some money he could change the club's identify forever.  Equally likely to leave in strop after 3 months though.

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Re: Manager suggestions
« Reply #52 on: August 13, 2017, 02:15:15 PM »
I am with Monty on this.  If we are doomed never to be promoted like Forest and Leeds let's enjoy our games. This football diet of spuds, cabbage and pig's feet (waiter do you have pig's feet?  No sir, it's the shoes) is killing me.  How about accepting defeat providing we are entertained.  Let's get a manager who is not terrified of losing but is terrified of getting the Bolton treatment for inflicting endless boredom on us.  Actually, playing Samba at centre forward against Hull was the only unpredictable thing Bruce has ever done in his time with us.



Do you seriously think Dr T has spent all that money just to settle for that?

Offline Rico

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Re: Manager suggestions
« Reply #53 on: August 13, 2017, 02:20:06 PM »
More convinced than ever that Bruce will be sacked and John Terry will be our next manager.

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Re: Manager suggestions
« Reply #54 on: August 13, 2017, 02:23:06 PM »

Which leads us to essentially two modes of action...Do we look for the (semi) proven,English speaking,English knowledge based,preferably unemployed, option of an Allardyce,Karanka or Pardew....All, despite their limitations have proven to improve teams on a short term basis and all would be interested.


Not sure it is fair to include Karanka in the same category as those two. He was exactly the kind of leap into the unknown by Middlesbrough that you were talking about. 

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Re: Manager suggestions
« Reply #55 on: August 13, 2017, 02:25:27 PM »
More convinced than ever that Bruce will be sacked and John Terry will be our next manager.

yes with Lampard as assistant

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Re: Manager suggestions
« Reply #56 on: August 13, 2017, 02:31:47 PM »
Bielsa please.  He can bring a young coach with him to become the next Guardiola/Pochettino.

He's just joined Lille in France. Won their first game of the season last week. Read and weep:

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LOSC already look like a real Bielsa team and they pressed Nantes relentlessly throughout. The high-energy style should have brought the northern club rewards even before a three-goal second-half flurry ensured Ranieri's first game at Nantes ended in defeat.

Somebody posted this up the other day, it's a fantastic read: http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/40879274
« Last Edit: August 13, 2017, 02:35:12 PM by Rudy Can't Fail »

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Re: Manager suggestions
« Reply #57 on: August 13, 2017, 02:36:55 PM »
How is king Melberg doing in Sweden?

Offline sirlordbaltimore

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Re: Manager suggestions
« Reply #58 on: August 13, 2017, 02:44:33 PM »
Do we look for the (semi) proven,English speaking,English knowledge based,preferably unemployed, option of an Allardyce,Karanka or Pardew....All, despite their limitations have proven to improve teams on a short term basis and all would be interested.

Isn't this exactly what Bruce did ?

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Re: Manager suggestions
« Reply #59 on: August 13, 2017, 02:45:56 PM »
I want someone in charge who actually wants to keep the ball, attack the opponent and take a positive win the game attitude every time we take to the pitch. I'm sick to death of conservativism. It's like we have become poisoned as a club and infected with subservience. Give me a manager who has the fucking balls to take the job of managing Aston Villa, not someone who is simply grateful to get an opportunity.

 


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