The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths

[john e]

Allready it is looking unlikely based on points but more importantly momentum.
How long can Xia let this drift before the probability goes from very difficult to almost impossible,?

I'm amazed that no one appears to be looking at the numbers. It's clear our season is over much as it was this stage last year.  Some heads need to roll for this shit.

no where near
i thought there was plenty of time for Bruce last year to turn it round so i'm not going to think any different now

a new manager with some idea of what he's doing will have plenty of matches to make the play offs at least, depending when we make the change obviously

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Allready it is looking unlikely based on points but more importantly momentum.
How long can Xia let this drift before the probability goes from very difficult to almost impossible,?

I'm amazed that no one appears to be looking at the numbers. It's clear our season is over much as it was this stage last year.  Some heads need to roll for this shit.

no where near
i thought there was plenty of time for Bruce last year to turn it round so i'm not going to think any different now

a new manager with some idea of what he's doing will have plenty of matches to make the play offs at least, depending when we make the change obviously

John, you used a lot of words there to say he's talking shite.

Season over after 6 games, get to fuck.

[AVH87]

No way the season is over now, or even was when Bruce came in last season. If Bruce had averaged 2 points per game and taken 70 from the 35 he was in charge for last year, we would have just made the play-offs. Everyone seems content with the squad this season, so no reason a good manager couldn't average 2 points per game or slightly higher. I do think automatic promotion (for those who thought it was ever on) is one or two games from slipping away though.

[old man villa fan]

No way the season is over now, or even was when Bruce came in last season. If Bruce had averaged 2 points per game and taken 70 from the 35 he was in charge for last year, we would have just made the play-offs. Everyone seems content with the squad this season, so no reason a good manager couldn't average 2 points per game or slightly higher. I do think automatic promotion (for those who thought it was ever on) is one or two games from slipping away though.

At the end of last season I said that if we couldn't see automatic promotion with Bruce, we should change. Many people said they could. Otherwise why keep a manager that can only get you as far as the lucky dip.

To me, a Bruce team never cries out 'automatic promotion '.

[AVH87]

No way the season is over now, or even was when Bruce came in last season. If Bruce had averaged 2 points per game and taken 70 from the 35 he was in charge for last year, we would have just made the play-offs. Everyone seems content with the squad this season, so no reason a good manager couldn't average 2 points per game or slightly higher. I do think automatic promotion (for those who thought it was ever on) is one or two games from slipping away though.

At the end of last season I said that if we couldn't see automatic promotion with Bruce, we should change. Many people said they could. Otherwise why keep a manager that can only get you as far as the lucky dip.

To me, a Bruce team never cries out 'automatic promotion '.

I never expected automatic promotion with him either. I guess with the benefit of hindsight I would have been happy with a change, but I wasn't exactly shouting for Bruce to be sacked at the end of last season. All this talk of giving him a 'pre-season' fooled me.

[ChicagoLion]

We are already needing a fantasy run of games to get us an automatic place.
Looks like we are allready accepting the play offs as the target.
Bruce won't achieve either and god knows who might come in.

[old man villa fan]

If we are giving up on automatic promotion, we may as well change now and bring in a progressive manager with a view to the future.  It might just give the breathing space we need to develop a good team to creep into the play-offs but hit them with momentum of the team in form.

[Ad@m]

No way should Aston Villa be giving up on automatic promotion in this shit league and the simple fact that it already seems to have gone proves Bruce has failed.

[cheltenhamlion]

Giving up on automatic promotion after 6 games seems a tad early. Not that I think he will get us anywhere near promotion if he stops.

[russon]

I think we can put the abacus away for another season, we're utter mince.

[Tokyo Sexwhale]

Lock this damned thread.

[PeterWithesShin]

There's enough games left to get right back in the mix, and I still believe we have the players to do it. However I don't believe we have the managers and coaches to do it, and every game Bruce is in charge make us going up less likely.

[ChicagoLion]

There's enough games left to get right back in the mix, and I still believe we have the players to do it. However I don't believe we have the managers and coaches to do it, and every game Bruce is in charge make us going up less likely.

Mathematically yes but realistically I don't think so.
The decision to give Bruce the summer and what was left of the Cheque Book (as so many were advocating) has done for us.
He has bought in players that are way past thier best or not good enough. The names in this squad flatter to decieve.
We can not buy our way out of this because of FFP.
Wyness has backed this manager to the hilt and when forced will probably bring in Moyse ( because the options are extremely limited) who will have the ready made excuse of not enough time, not his players, no money in the kitty.
This whole set up reeks of failure.

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Garbage. This squad is comfortably the strongest in this league.

[ChicagoLion]

Garbage. This squad is comfortably the strongest in this league.

Garbage, the results would tend to suggest otherwise.