The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths

[PeterWithesShin]

To me results and performances suggest the manager hasn't got a clue and is draining the confidence of the players.

Put this way, 1, 0, 1, 4, 1, 0, 0. That's league goals for this season, there is no way imo this squad should have scored only 3 goals in 6 of the games.

[ChicagoLion]

I agree that this Manager is not getting the best out of the squad, I am not convinced that they are any where near as good as they need to be.

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Who jas a better squad then? That northern pish we playee tonight?

This squad is as Dave suggested, good enough to be promoted before you've finished eating all your Easter eggs.

[ciggiesnbeer]

I agree that this Manager is not getting the best out of the squad, I am not convinced that they are any where near as good as they need to be.

You may well be right on both counts. But we can get a better manager immediately. Better players will take more time. Upgrade what we can now seems wise.

[ChicagoLion]

Who jas a better squad then? That northern pish we playee tonight?

This squad is as Dave suggested, good enough to be promoted before you've finished eating all your Easter eggs.

You got your wish, we are stuck with the bloke that created it.
I get my information from the results and the league table.

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How much information do you get in hiding?

[itbrvilla]

There's enough games left to get right back in the mix, and I still believe we have the players to do it. However I don't believe we have the managers and coaches to do it, and every game Bruce is in charge make us going up less likely.

Mathematically yes but realistically I don't think so.
The decision to give Bruce the summer and what was left of the Cheque Book (as so many were advocating) has done for us.
He has bought in players that are way past thier best or not good enough. The names in this squad flatter to decieve.
We can not buy our way out of this because of FFP.
Wyness has backed this manager to the hilt and when forced will probably bring in Moyse ( because the options are extremely limited) who will have the ready made excuse of not enough time, not his players, no money in the kitty.
This whole set up reeks of failure.

I used to think we had a decent squad, but I am bringing to do e round tour your thinking.  Same mistakes over and over again.

[aj2k77]

The squad is as immobile as Abraham Simpson.

[IFWaters]

7 games gone. 7 points in the bag.
Average for automatic promotion in 46 game season is 87 points. So over 2 points a game now required for that.

[ciggiesnbeer]

Ouch. Thats pretty hard to imagine happening with things as they are.

[AVH87]

The squad isn't as good as some of us think.

People open say 'Bjarnasson's not a footballer' 'Lansbury is useless' 'Hogan couldn't hit a barn door'. 2 of these 3 started last night, with the other kept out the team by a rookie who hasn't yet scored a senior goal. That's over a quarter of the team many openly say are below the required standard to be top 2.

We have some good players; Chester, Kodjia, Hourihane, Snodgrass now. I don't think we have the squad or enough pace or chemistry to be a top 2 side though. Under a brighter manager, top 6 for me.

[ChicagoLion]

The squad isn't as good as some of us think.

People open say 'Bjarnasson's not a footballer' 'Lansbury is useless' 'Hogan couldn't hit a barn door'. 2 of these 3 started last night, with the other kept out the team by a rookie who hasn't yet scored a senior goal. That's over a quarter of the team many openly say are below the required standard to be top 2.

We have some good players; Chester, Kodjia, Hourihane, Snodgrass now. I don't think we have the squad or enough pace or chemistry to be a top 2 side though. Under a brighter manager, top 6 for me.

Exactly how I see it.

[paul_e]

Except none of those 3 would get into our best 11.  As backup, options from the bench or injury cover they'd be fine in a squad that was coached properly.

[AVH87]

Except none of those 3 would get into our best 11.  As backup, options from the bench or injury cover they'd be fine in a squad that was coached properly.

Everyone keep saying 'the squad' is good enough for top 2, but when we have a couple of injuries (Kodjia, Onomah, Green) - the likes of Lansbury, Bjarnasson and Gabby/Hogan/Davis get game time and I don't feel we will win enough games with them to be right up there, whoever the manager is.

[PeterWithesShin]

But that's kind of the point I think, who else has a player as good as Hogan as a back up striker? Or Lansbury as back up in midfield, or can bring on a player like Adomah as a sub? For all we think of Gabby as being shit. he's caused problems and worried the opposition in most games he's played, and that's our 3rd/4th choice striker that we think is shit. Every side at this level is screwed a fair bit if they lose their best player in any position because squad depth is crap down here, we're better equipped than most to deal with it I reckon.