Quote from: Canadian Villa on December 20, 2017, 09:39:45 PMQuote from: Drummond on December 20, 2017, 04:01:38 PMQuote from: Ad@m on December 20, 2017, 02:41:14 PMQuote from: chrisw1 on December 20, 2017, 10:27:17 AMQuote from: Ad@m on December 20, 2017, 10:02:31 AMQuote from: Neil Hawkes on December 20, 2017, 09:55:35 AMI am surprised that there are so many that think someones personal life must be on hold, when they are employed by the greatest team on the planet. He's a Chelsea supporter and, although injured, still goes to more of our matches than he does their matches. I don't give a toss how many millions someone is paid, you can only dedicate so much of your personal life to work related activities before everything around you turns to shit, a healthy balance is required.He is a professional footballer - as an absolute minimum I'd describe the 90 minutes the club he's captain of are playing to be working rather than personal life. As a general rule, you'd be hard pushed to find many people who think professional footballers are overworked!I just don't get the problem here. No injured players, club captains or not, would be expected to go to every game home and away. The travelling isn't great use of their time for one thing during rehab. I don't see why you are going out the way to criticise him for this, it's beyond desperate.I'm not going out of my way. It's my opinion.You seem to have very low expectations of our captain whereas I think that a leader needs to be physically there to show leadership. Wouldn't it have been nice, for example, if he went in to the dressing room after the abject result against Derby and gave the rest of the team his opinion on what it takes to win championships and what's expected this Saturday rather than be in London having a laugh with his mates, supporting another team?Do you mean leadership in the sense of his conduct during the visit to Acorns?How is leadership tied with his conduct during a visit to Acorns? what was his conduct?He managed not to racially abuse anyone or sleep with a teammates partner (as far as we know)
Quote from: Drummond on December 20, 2017, 04:01:38 PMQuote from: Ad@m on December 20, 2017, 02:41:14 PMQuote from: chrisw1 on December 20, 2017, 10:27:17 AMQuote from: Ad@m on December 20, 2017, 10:02:31 AMQuote from: Neil Hawkes on December 20, 2017, 09:55:35 AMI am surprised that there are so many that think someones personal life must be on hold, when they are employed by the greatest team on the planet. He's a Chelsea supporter and, although injured, still goes to more of our matches than he does their matches. I don't give a toss how many millions someone is paid, you can only dedicate so much of your personal life to work related activities before everything around you turns to shit, a healthy balance is required.He is a professional footballer - as an absolute minimum I'd describe the 90 minutes the club he's captain of are playing to be working rather than personal life. As a general rule, you'd be hard pushed to find many people who think professional footballers are overworked!I just don't get the problem here. No injured players, club captains or not, would be expected to go to every game home and away. The travelling isn't great use of their time for one thing during rehab. I don't see why you are going out the way to criticise him for this, it's beyond desperate.I'm not going out of my way. It's my opinion.You seem to have very low expectations of our captain whereas I think that a leader needs to be physically there to show leadership. Wouldn't it have been nice, for example, if he went in to the dressing room after the abject result against Derby and gave the rest of the team his opinion on what it takes to win championships and what's expected this Saturday rather than be in London having a laugh with his mates, supporting another team?Do you mean leadership in the sense of his conduct during the visit to Acorns?How is leadership tied with his conduct during a visit to Acorns? what was his conduct?
Quote from: Ad@m on December 20, 2017, 02:41:14 PMQuote from: chrisw1 on December 20, 2017, 10:27:17 AMQuote from: Ad@m on December 20, 2017, 10:02:31 AMQuote from: Neil Hawkes on December 20, 2017, 09:55:35 AMI am surprised that there are so many that think someones personal life must be on hold, when they are employed by the greatest team on the planet. He's a Chelsea supporter and, although injured, still goes to more of our matches than he does their matches. I don't give a toss how many millions someone is paid, you can only dedicate so much of your personal life to work related activities before everything around you turns to shit, a healthy balance is required.He is a professional footballer - as an absolute minimum I'd describe the 90 minutes the club he's captain of are playing to be working rather than personal life. As a general rule, you'd be hard pushed to find many people who think professional footballers are overworked!I just don't get the problem here. No injured players, club captains or not, would be expected to go to every game home and away. The travelling isn't great use of their time for one thing during rehab. I don't see why you are going out the way to criticise him for this, it's beyond desperate.I'm not going out of my way. It's my opinion.You seem to have very low expectations of our captain whereas I think that a leader needs to be physically there to show leadership. Wouldn't it have been nice, for example, if he went in to the dressing room after the abject result against Derby and gave the rest of the team his opinion on what it takes to win championships and what's expected this Saturday rather than be in London having a laugh with his mates, supporting another team?Do you mean leadership in the sense of his conduct during the visit to Acorns?
Quote from: chrisw1 on December 20, 2017, 10:27:17 AMQuote from: Ad@m on December 20, 2017, 10:02:31 AMQuote from: Neil Hawkes on December 20, 2017, 09:55:35 AMI am surprised that there are so many that think someones personal life must be on hold, when they are employed by the greatest team on the planet. He's a Chelsea supporter and, although injured, still goes to more of our matches than he does their matches. I don't give a toss how many millions someone is paid, you can only dedicate so much of your personal life to work related activities before everything around you turns to shit, a healthy balance is required.He is a professional footballer - as an absolute minimum I'd describe the 90 minutes the club he's captain of are playing to be working rather than personal life. As a general rule, you'd be hard pushed to find many people who think professional footballers are overworked!I just don't get the problem here. No injured players, club captains or not, would be expected to go to every game home and away. The travelling isn't great use of their time for one thing during rehab. I don't see why you are going out the way to criticise him for this, it's beyond desperate.I'm not going out of my way. It's my opinion.You seem to have very low expectations of our captain whereas I think that a leader needs to be physically there to show leadership. Wouldn't it have been nice, for example, if he went in to the dressing room after the abject result against Derby and gave the rest of the team his opinion on what it takes to win championships and what's expected this Saturday rather than be in London having a laugh with his mates, supporting another team?
Quote from: Ad@m on December 20, 2017, 10:02:31 AMQuote from: Neil Hawkes on December 20, 2017, 09:55:35 AMI am surprised that there are so many that think someones personal life must be on hold, when they are employed by the greatest team on the planet. He's a Chelsea supporter and, although injured, still goes to more of our matches than he does their matches. I don't give a toss how many millions someone is paid, you can only dedicate so much of your personal life to work related activities before everything around you turns to shit, a healthy balance is required.He is a professional footballer - as an absolute minimum I'd describe the 90 minutes the club he's captain of are playing to be working rather than personal life. As a general rule, you'd be hard pushed to find many people who think professional footballers are overworked!I just don't get the problem here. No injured players, club captains or not, would be expected to go to every game home and away. The travelling isn't great use of their time for one thing during rehab. I don't see why you are going out the way to criticise him for this, it's beyond desperate.
Quote from: Neil Hawkes on December 20, 2017, 09:55:35 AMI am surprised that there are so many that think someones personal life must be on hold, when they are employed by the greatest team on the planet. He's a Chelsea supporter and, although injured, still goes to more of our matches than he does their matches. I don't give a toss how many millions someone is paid, you can only dedicate so much of your personal life to work related activities before everything around you turns to shit, a healthy balance is required.He is a professional footballer - as an absolute minimum I'd describe the 90 minutes the club he's captain of are playing to be working rather than personal life. As a general rule, you'd be hard pushed to find many people who think professional footballers are overworked!
I am surprised that there are so many that think someones personal life must be on hold, when they are employed by the greatest team on the planet. He's a Chelsea supporter and, although injured, still goes to more of our matches than he does their matches. I don't give a toss how many millions someone is paid, you can only dedicate so much of your personal life to work related activities before everything around you turns to shit, a healthy balance is required.
Quote from: pauliewalnuts on December 20, 2017, 10:40:15 PMPretty sure I remember a pointless ruck here when an injured Darren Bent was spotted shuffling around the Bullring.I don't care if he spends his injured time strangling chickens in the middle of robin hood island so long as he applies himself properly when it comes to being a footballer.While I agree with the thrust of your argument I think I would have to draw the line at him choking the chicken on the A34.
Pretty sure I remember a pointless ruck here when an injured Darren Bent was spotted shuffling around the Bullring.I don't care if he spends his injured time strangling chickens in the middle of robin hood island so long as he applies himself properly when it comes to being a footballer.
Quote from: stuart445 on December 21, 2017, 09:48:48 AMQuote from: chrisw1 on December 20, 2017, 04:01:20 PMQuote from: Ad@m on December 20, 2017, 02:41:14 PMQuote from: chrisw1 on December 20, 2017, 10:27:17 AMQuote from: Ad@m on December 20, 2017, 10:02:31 AMQuote from: Neil Hawkes on December 20, 2017, 09:55:35 AMI am surprised that there are so many that think someones personal life must be on hold, when they are employed by the greatest team on the planet. He's a Chelsea supporter and, although injured, still goes to more of our matches than he does their matches. I don't give a toss how many millions someone is paid, you can only dedicate so much of your personal life to work related activities before everything around you turns to shit, a healthy balance is required.He is a professional footballer - as an absolute minimum I'd describe the 90 minutes the club he's captain of are playing to be working rather than personal life. As a general rule, you'd be hard pushed to find many people who think professional footballers are overworked!I just don't get the problem here. No injured players, club captains or not, would be expected to go to every game home and away. The travelling isn't great use of their time for one thing during rehab. I don't see why you are going out the way to criticise him for this, it's beyond desperate.I'm not going out of my way. It's my opinion.You seem to have very low expectations of our captain whereas I think that a leader needs to be physically there to show leadership. Wouldn't it have been nice, for example, if he went in to the dressing room after the abject result against Derby and gave the rest of the team his opinion on what it takes to win championships and what's expected this Saturday rather than be in London having a laugh with his mates, supporting another team?You're just being daft. And hyper critical for the sake of it. He's got plenty of time to talk to the players about the next game without him laying into them when they're just waiting to get into the shower. Do you think our other injured captains went to every single game home and away? I've no idea, but I would be amazed if they did. Do you think Kompany goes to every Man City game, or any other injured captain of other teams for that matter? So you think it's good that our club captain who should be showing leadership, who should be giving the impression to the players that we are in this together and should be relied on for support should the players need it is watching another team play at the same time as the team he is meant to be captain of is playing?I'm not particularly angry about it if I'm honest I just don't think having your club captain attending another teams match whilst we play is a good look. Yeah we know what you think. It seems few agree with you and you're being unreasonable. I'll sure you'll find something else to have a dig at him about soon and we can let this one go.
Quote from: chrisw1 on December 20, 2017, 04:01:20 PMQuote from: Ad@m on December 20, 2017, 02:41:14 PMQuote from: chrisw1 on December 20, 2017, 10:27:17 AMQuote from: Ad@m on December 20, 2017, 10:02:31 AMQuote from: Neil Hawkes on December 20, 2017, 09:55:35 AMI am surprised that there are so many that think someones personal life must be on hold, when they are employed by the greatest team on the planet. He's a Chelsea supporter and, although injured, still goes to more of our matches than he does their matches. I don't give a toss how many millions someone is paid, you can only dedicate so much of your personal life to work related activities before everything around you turns to shit, a healthy balance is required.He is a professional footballer - as an absolute minimum I'd describe the 90 minutes the club he's captain of are playing to be working rather than personal life. As a general rule, you'd be hard pushed to find many people who think professional footballers are overworked!I just don't get the problem here. No injured players, club captains or not, would be expected to go to every game home and away. The travelling isn't great use of their time for one thing during rehab. I don't see why you are going out the way to criticise him for this, it's beyond desperate.I'm not going out of my way. It's my opinion.You seem to have very low expectations of our captain whereas I think that a leader needs to be physically there to show leadership. Wouldn't it have been nice, for example, if he went in to the dressing room after the abject result against Derby and gave the rest of the team his opinion on what it takes to win championships and what's expected this Saturday rather than be in London having a laugh with his mates, supporting another team?You're just being daft. And hyper critical for the sake of it. He's got plenty of time to talk to the players about the next game without him laying into them when they're just waiting to get into the shower. Do you think our other injured captains went to every single game home and away? I've no idea, but I would be amazed if they did. Do you think Kompany goes to every Man City game, or any other injured captain of other teams for that matter? So you think it's good that our club captain who should be showing leadership, who should be giving the impression to the players that we are in this together and should be relied on for support should the players need it is watching another team play at the same time as the team he is meant to be captain of is playing?I'm not particularly angry about it if I'm honest I just don't think having your club captain attending another teams match whilst we play is a good look.
Quote from: Ad@m on December 20, 2017, 02:41:14 PMQuote from: chrisw1 on December 20, 2017, 10:27:17 AMQuote from: Ad@m on December 20, 2017, 10:02:31 AMQuote from: Neil Hawkes on December 20, 2017, 09:55:35 AMI am surprised that there are so many that think someones personal life must be on hold, when they are employed by the greatest team on the planet. He's a Chelsea supporter and, although injured, still goes to more of our matches than he does their matches. I don't give a toss how many millions someone is paid, you can only dedicate so much of your personal life to work related activities before everything around you turns to shit, a healthy balance is required.He is a professional footballer - as an absolute minimum I'd describe the 90 minutes the club he's captain of are playing to be working rather than personal life. As a general rule, you'd be hard pushed to find many people who think professional footballers are overworked!I just don't get the problem here. No injured players, club captains or not, would be expected to go to every game home and away. The travelling isn't great use of their time for one thing during rehab. I don't see why you are going out the way to criticise him for this, it's beyond desperate.I'm not going out of my way. It's my opinion.You seem to have very low expectations of our captain whereas I think that a leader needs to be physically there to show leadership. Wouldn't it have been nice, for example, if he went in to the dressing room after the abject result against Derby and gave the rest of the team his opinion on what it takes to win championships and what's expected this Saturday rather than be in London having a laugh with his mates, supporting another team?You're just being daft. And hyper critical for the sake of it. He's got plenty of time to talk to the players about the next game without him laying into them when they're just waiting to get into the shower. Do you think our other injured captains went to every single game home and away? I've no idea, but I would be amazed if they did. Do you think Kompany goes to every Man City game, or any other injured captain of other teams for that matter?
Quote from: WarszaVillan82 on December 20, 2017, 09:56:03 PMQuote from: Canadian Villa on December 20, 2017, 09:39:45 PMQuote from: Drummond on December 20, 2017, 04:01:38 PMQuote from: Ad@m on December 20, 2017, 02:41:14 PMQuote from: chrisw1 on December 20, 2017, 10:27:17 AMQuote from: Ad@m on December 20, 2017, 10:02:31 AMQuote from: Neil Hawkes on December 20, 2017, 09:55:35 AMI am surprised that there are so many that think someones personal life must be on hold, when they are employed by the greatest team on the planet. He's a Chelsea supporter and, although injured, still goes to more of our matches than he does their matches. I don't give a toss how many millions someone is paid, you can only dedicate so much of your personal life to work related activities before everything around you turns to shit, a healthy balance is required.He is a professional footballer - as an absolute minimum I'd describe the 90 minutes the club he's captain of are playing to be working rather than personal life. As a general rule, you'd be hard pushed to find many people who think professional footballers are overworked!I just don't get the problem here. No injured players, club captains or not, would be expected to go to every game home and away. The travelling isn't great use of their time for one thing during rehab. I don't see why you are going out the way to criticise him for this, it's beyond desperate.I'm not going out of my way. It's my opinion.You seem to have very low expectations of our captain whereas I think that a leader needs to be physically there to show leadership. Wouldn't it have been nice, for example, if he went in to the dressing room after the abject result against Derby and gave the rest of the team his opinion on what it takes to win championships and what's expected this Saturday rather than be in London having a laugh with his mates, supporting another team?Do you mean leadership in the sense of his conduct during the visit to Acorns?How is leadership tied with his conduct during a visit to Acorns? what was his conduct?He managed not to racially abuse anyone or sleep with a teammates partner (as far as we know)I'm mnot sure if you're joking or being serious, so perhaps I'll move on.His leadership and conduct on the visit to Acorns was exemplary by all accounts. He spent a lot of time talking to all the children, families and staff and delayed being moved on to do so.I think that's good leadership, don't you?
Quote from: Drummond on December 21, 2017, 02:52:43 PMQuote from: WarszaVillan82 on December 20, 2017, 09:56:03 PMQuote from: Canadian Villa on December 20, 2017, 09:39:45 PMQuote from: Drummond on December 20, 2017, 04:01:38 PMQuote from: Ad@m on December 20, 2017, 02:41:14 PMQuote from: chrisw1 on December 20, 2017, 10:27:17 AMQuote from: Ad@m on December 20, 2017, 10:02:31 AMQuote from: Neil Hawkes on December 20, 2017, 09:55:35 AMI am surprised that there are so many that think someones personal life must be on hold, when they are employed by the greatest team on the planet. He's a Chelsea supporter and, although injured, still goes to more of our matches than he does their matches. I don't give a toss how many millions someone is paid, you can only dedicate so much of your personal life to work related activities before everything around you turns to shit, a healthy balance is required.He is a professional footballer - as an absolute minimum I'd describe the 90 minutes the club he's captain of are playing to be working rather than personal life. As a general rule, you'd be hard pushed to find many people who think professional footballers are overworked!I just don't get the problem here. No injured players, club captains or not, would be expected to go to every game home and away. The travelling isn't great use of their time for one thing during rehab. I don't see why you are going out the way to criticise him for this, it's beyond desperate.I'm not going out of my way. It's my opinion.You seem to have very low expectations of our captain whereas I think that a leader needs to be physically there to show leadership. Wouldn't it have been nice, for example, if he went in to the dressing room after the abject result against Derby and gave the rest of the team his opinion on what it takes to win championships and what's expected this Saturday rather than be in London having a laugh with his mates, supporting another team?Do you mean leadership in the sense of his conduct during the visit to Acorns?How is leadership tied with his conduct during a visit to Acorns? what was his conduct?He managed not to racially abuse anyone or sleep with a teammates partner (as far as we know)I'm mnot sure if you're joking or being serious, so perhaps I'll move on.His leadership and conduct on the visit to Acorns was exemplary by all accounts. He spent a lot of time talking to all the children, families and staff and delayed being moved on to do so.I think that's good leadership, don't you?I don't think that it's tied to leadership at all.
Im worried Ill end up in another dimension if I attempt to read through these quotathons.
Careful now
Quote from: Canadian Villa on December 21, 2017, 06:17:49 PMQuote from: Drummond on December 21, 2017, 02:52:43 PMQuote from: WarszaVillan82 on December 20, 2017, 09:56:03 PMQuote from: Canadian Villa on December 20, 2017, 09:39:45 PMQuote from: Drummond on December 20, 2017, 04:01:38 PMQuote from: Ad@m on December 20, 2017, 02:41:14 PMQuote from: chrisw1 on December 20, 2017, 10:27:17 AMQuote from: Ad@m on December 20, 2017, 10:02:31 AMQuote from: Neil Hawkes on December 20, 2017, 09:55:35 AMI am surprised that there are so many that think someones personal life must be on hold, when they are employed by the greatest team on the planet. He's a Chelsea supporter and, although injured, still goes to more of our matches than he does their matches. I don't give a toss how many millions someone is paid, you can only dedicate so much of your personal life to work related activities before everything around you turns to shit, a healthy balance is required.He is a professional footballer - as an absolute minimum I'd describe the 90 minutes the club he's captain of are playing to be working rather than personal life. As a general rule, you'd be hard pushed to find many people who think professional footballers are overworked!I just don't get the problem here. No injured players, club captains or not, would be expected to go to every game home and away. The travelling isn't great use of their time for one thing during rehab. I don't see why you are going out the way to criticise him for this, it's beyond desperate.I'm not going out of my way. It's my opinion.You seem to have very low expectations of our captain whereas I think that a leader needs to be physically there to show leadership. Wouldn't it have been nice, for example, if he went in to the dressing room after the abject result against Derby and gave the rest of the team his opinion on what it takes to win championships and what's expected this Saturday rather than be in London having a laugh with his mates, supporting another team?Do you mean leadership in the sense of his conduct during the visit to Acorns?How is leadership tied with his conduct during a visit to Acorns? what was his conduct?He managed not to racially abuse anyone or sleep with a teammates partner (as far as we know)I'm mnot sure if you're joking or being serious, so perhaps I'll move on.His leadership and conduct on the visit to Acorns was exemplary by all accounts. He spent a lot of time talking to all the children, families and staff and delayed being moved on to do so.I think that's good leadership, don't you?I don't think that it's tied to leadership at all.That says more than I need to then.
I just find it annoying that people forget the actual outcome of things and only remember the allegations