"People can say racist comments but it doesn't necessary mean you're racist?"What the holy fuck does that mean?Do you just mean that casual racism is acceptable?Or racist banter?
I've made my feelings plain on him, but it's a bit harsh blaming him for #8.
Quote from: PeterWithesShin on June 23, 2017, 01:13:11 AMI've made my feelings plain on him, but it's a bit harsh blaming him for #8. And #4. Footballers can't bet on horse racing, since when?
Great example to human kind or not, John Terry is a multiple winner on the football pitch and if we're on some sort of moral crusade by rejecting somebody like him then you'd better get used to Barnsley away on a Tuesday night. And it will probably be raining.
Quote from: adrenachrome on June 23, 2017, 12:50:56 AMIn addition to the objections raised by most posters, I am concerned about SB's strategy in offering the contract.A lot of us think the current squad is more than capable of getting us promoted, but Bruce started playing the card that the players bought in could not cope with the pressure. To me, that is an admission that he is unable to assemble a coaching team or the tactics necessary to do this.It does not look good, in my view.We need additional centre half cover so in that sense the squad is not good enough. One of Chester or Baker gets injured or suspended then we are in trouble. If a Terry like player was available but without the baggage then I doubt it would receive half the scrutiny this is. I can understand why people don't want him based on his character but from a purely footballing sense it makes a lot of sense.
In addition to the objections raised by most posters, I am concerned about SB's strategy in offering the contract.A lot of us think the current squad is more than capable of getting us promoted, but Bruce started playing the card that the players bought in could not cope with the pressure. To me, that is an admission that he is unable to assemble a coaching team or the tactics necessary to do this.It does not look good, in my view.
Quote from: Nunkin1965 on June 23, 2017, 07:56:44 AMGreat example to human kind or not, John Terry is a multiple winner on the football pitch and if we're on some sort of moral crusade by rejecting somebody like him then you'd better get used to Barnsley away on a Tuesday night. And it will probably be raining.Peter Schmeichel, Micah Richards and Joleon Lescott were all "winners" before we signed them. If we signed a thirty-year-old John Terry, he would almost certainly still be a winner, but he's 37 and far from guaranteed to be so.As for the second part of your post... that literally makes no sense. We won't get promoted unless we sign a racist? Is this something new rule? Who's Brighton's racist? Who's Bournemouth's racist?
Quote from: Chris Smith on June 23, 2017, 06:51:54 AMQuote from: adrenachrome on June 23, 2017, 12:50:56 AMIn addition to the objections raised by most posters, I am concerned about SB's strategy in offering the contract.A lot of us think the current squad is more than capable of getting us promoted, but Bruce started playing the card that the players bought in could not cope with the pressure. To me, that is an admission that he is unable to assemble a coaching team or the tactics necessary to do this.It does not look good, in my view.We need additional centre half cover so in that sense the squad is not good enough. One of Chester or Baker gets injured or suspended then we are in trouble. If a Terry like player was available but without the baggage then I doubt it would receive half the scrutiny this is. I can understand why people don't want him based on his character but from a purely footballing sense it makes a lot of sense.I'm struggling to see how "from a purely footballing sense" it makes a lot of sense for a second tier club to employ a 37 year old on £60k a week... as cover?He won't be cover, so I'm not sure what point you're making. He'll be breaking up the only position in which we looked vaguely competent last season and leaving us lacking funds to address the parts of the team that really need addressing.
Quote from: cdbullyweefan on June 23, 2017, 08:10:39 AMQuote from: Chris Smith on June 23, 2017, 06:51:54 AMQuote from: adrenachrome on June 23, 2017, 12:50:56 AMIn addition to the objections raised by most posters, I am concerned about SB's strategy in offering the contract.A lot of us think the current squad is more than capable of getting us promoted, but Bruce started playing the card that the players bought in could not cope with the pressure. To me, that is an admission that he is unable to assemble a coaching team or the tactics necessary to do this.It does not look good, in my view.We need additional centre half cover so in that sense the squad is not good enough. One of Chester or Baker gets injured or suspended then we are in trouble. If a Terry like player was available but without the baggage then I doubt it would receive half the scrutiny this is. I can understand why people don't want him based on his character but from a purely footballing sense it makes a lot of sense.I'm struggling to see how "from a purely footballing sense" it makes a lot of sense for a second tier club to employ a 37 year old on £60k a week... as cover?He won't be cover, so I'm not sure what point you're making. He'll be breaking up the only position in which we looked vaguely competent last season and leaving us lacking funds to address the parts of the team that really need addressing. We need another centre half, common sense tells us that Baker and Chester cannot play every game, injuries and suspensions will take there toll. So the argument that the squad is good enough does not stand up. If, as part of that deal we get one that is good enough to hold down a starting place then all the better.It is understandable but I think your judgement of him as a player is clouded by your view of him as a man. He has never had pace but has made up for that with his strength, ability, leadership and positional sense. That is why there are a number of clubs interested in signing him.On balance I would probably prefer that we didn't sign him but if we do then I am fairly confident that he would be good enough for the Championship.