Quote from: Toronto Villa on July 03, 2017, 05:20:54 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on July 03, 2017, 03:44:50 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on July 03, 2017, 03:37:35 PMQuote from: cdbullyweefan on July 03, 2017, 03:33:00 PMThe one we are in.The Championship is easily the biggest second tier in the World. Respectfully, I'm not sure what TV is on about in this instance. What I'm on about is that it has the potential given how big the PL prize is to make itself more accessible. I made this point above that look how hard it was to find games to follow last season, even by radio. In 2017 it should not be that hard and when it is people disengage. The Football League management should be doing more to make the games easier to see much like the PL has done.I doubt there's anything they haven't tried but I'm sure they'd welcome your input. When many fans are watching through grainy internet streams, catching the Norwich or Blues games through fans cell phones I'm sure there's lots they can still try to do to make the games more accessible. Do you think that's acceptable? If they want to grow the league then find ways to allow more people to experience it. I live in Canada. There's lots of fans of teams not in the PL. We'd like to watch them too. And when we are able to get games others are in bars watching too who get exposed to it.Gosh. I bet they've never thought of that.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on July 03, 2017, 03:44:50 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on July 03, 2017, 03:37:35 PMQuote from: cdbullyweefan on July 03, 2017, 03:33:00 PMThe one we are in.The Championship is easily the biggest second tier in the World. Respectfully, I'm not sure what TV is on about in this instance. What I'm on about is that it has the potential given how big the PL prize is to make itself more accessible. I made this point above that look how hard it was to find games to follow last season, even by radio. In 2017 it should not be that hard and when it is people disengage. The Football League management should be doing more to make the games easier to see much like the PL has done.I doubt there's anything they haven't tried but I'm sure they'd welcome your input. When many fans are watching through grainy internet streams, catching the Norwich or Blues games through fans cell phones I'm sure there's lots they can still try to do to make the games more accessible. Do you think that's acceptable? If they want to grow the league then find ways to allow more people to experience it. I live in Canada. There's lots of fans of teams not in the PL. We'd like to watch them too. And when we are able to get games others are in bars watching too who get exposed to it.
Quote from: Toronto Villa on July 03, 2017, 03:37:35 PMQuote from: cdbullyweefan on July 03, 2017, 03:33:00 PMThe one we are in.The Championship is easily the biggest second tier in the World. Respectfully, I'm not sure what TV is on about in this instance. What I'm on about is that it has the potential given how big the PL prize is to make itself more accessible. I made this point above that look how hard it was to find games to follow last season, even by radio. In 2017 it should not be that hard and when it is people disengage. The Football League management should be doing more to make the games easier to see much like the PL has done.I doubt there's anything they haven't tried but I'm sure they'd welcome your input.
Quote from: cdbullyweefan on July 03, 2017, 03:33:00 PMThe one we are in.The Championship is easily the biggest second tier in the World. Respectfully, I'm not sure what TV is on about in this instance. What I'm on about is that it has the potential given how big the PL prize is to make itself more accessible. I made this point above that look how hard it was to find games to follow last season, even by radio. In 2017 it should not be that hard and when it is people disengage. The Football League management should be doing more to make the games easier to see much like the PL has done.
The one we are in.The Championship is easily the biggest second tier in the World. Respectfully, I'm not sure what TV is on about in this instance.
Quote from: Toronto Villa on July 03, 2017, 03:37:35 PMQuote from: cdbullyweefan on July 03, 2017, 03:33:00 PMThe one we are in.The Championship is easily the biggest second tier in the World. Respectfully, I'm not sure what TV is on about in this instance. What I'm on about is that it has the potential given how big the PL prize is to make itself more accessible. I made this point above that look how hard it was to find games to follow last season, even by radio. In 2017 it should not be that hard and when it is people disengage. The Football League management should be doing more to make the games easier to see much like the PL has done.To be fair to them, isn't the Football League setting up an internet channel this year for people outside the UK to watch matches?
Not having much dealings with the Football League's marketing department I can't really help you there. However, I would guess that they spend a decent amount on pushing what they have, explore all avenues and generally do as well with their product as the Premier League do with theirs. It's a bit daft, or naive if you prefer, to say that there's something they could do and haven't. Do you honestly think they don't sell games just because they can't be bothered, or that you've come up with something unique and previously unthought of? Because that IS childish.
Alternatively, you could just attend VP.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on July 03, 2017, 05:51:05 PMNot having much dealings with the Football League's marketing department I can't really help you there. However, I would guess that they spend a decent amount on pushing what they have, explore all avenues and generally do as well with their product as the Premier League do with theirs. It's a bit daft, or naive if you prefer, to say that there's something they could do and haven't. Do you honestly think they don't sell games just because they can't be bothered, or that you've come up with something unique and previously unthought of? Because that IS childish.I don't think it's unreasonable in the world of live streaming on Facebook and the like for overseas fans to expect a bit more opportunity to see Championship teams play.To use your word, as much as it's naive to think that there are easy things the Football League could do and just haven't it's equally naive to think that in a word where technology seems to be changing by the day that the Football League (an organisation renowned for it's traditional attitude towards life) have fully embraced, assessed and delivered all the potential opportunities changes in technology brings.
It is, easily, the best-supported and most well known second tier on the planet.I imagine Villa followers in Canada have far more opportunity to see their team than fans of Ingolstadt, Avellino, Queen of the South or Alcorcon do.It's a second tier. That's why it doesn't have a higher profile. Considering that, they do pretty well.
Quote from: cdbullyweefan on July 03, 2017, 06:01:16 PMIt is, easily, the best-supported and most well known second tier on the planet.I imagine Villa followers in Canada have far more opportunity to see their team than fans of Ingolstadt, Avellino, Queen of the South or Alcorcon do.It's a second tier. That's why it doesn't have a higher profile. Considering that, they do pretty well.Is it? I live in the Canada, have done for 20 years and am about to move to a Chicago. I travel across North American frequently. Most fans struggle when I say I support Aston Villa let alone know what league we are in. Games are very hard to come by. Only a handful were broadcast on Bein Sports last year. And there were countless mornings I followed the game via radio, shitty streams and in some cases not at all. So I accept that almost in spite of themselves and due to lack of investment in other second tiers they are known, but I would hardly go as far as to say well known outside of the UK and some parts of Europe.
If I was in the Football League marketing department, I'd be pretty pee'd off with Channel 5's coverage, it's dire at best.
How many French Second Division games were you able to watch last season?