Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: VinnieChase84 on May 07, 2017, 10:22:15 PM
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Right, season over now onto the new....
Any word on new kit release and new sponsor? I'd be shocked if Recon isnt our sponsor for the next few years
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Good call regarding Recon.
So it'll be an Under Armour/Recon combo.
Close the thread.
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I just Googled Recon, and they're a gay fetish website.
Would be an interesting new sponsor.
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As the new kit won't be proper claret or feature a round badge, it'll be shit for 30th+ season running.
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Along the lines of:
(http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Aston_Villa/images/aston-villa-1957-1959.gif)(http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Aston_Villa/images/aston-villa-1957-fa-cup-final.gif)
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I just Googled Recon, and they're a gay fetish website.
Would be an interesting new sponsor.
Well we do play in pink.
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I just Googled Recon, and they're a gay fetish website.
Would be an interesting new sponsor.
You had to Google it did you...you sure you haven't got it in favourites?
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I have now.
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Don't look at the site at work ;)
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I just Googled Recon, and they're a gay fetish website.
Would be an interesting new sponsor.
Well they do boast that they can "turn your fantasy into reality", so that'd be very welcome next season. ;)
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I don't really see how they can improve on this season's home shirt to be honest. I'd keep that and just change the away one and maybe release a third shirt if they're set on two new shirts a season.
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I'm sure the home shirt is always the biggest seller. No chance it won't be changed.
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I'm sure the home shirt is always the biggest seller. No chance it won't be changed.
Yeah it'll never happen just that's what I'd do. This season's was a good one.
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I don't really see how they can improve on this season's home shirt to be honest. I'd keep that and just change the away one and maybe release a third shirt if they're set on two new shirts a season.
We've not kept a home kit the same for two seasons since the first Reebok/AST Computer shirt of 1995/96 and 96/97. I wouldn't hold your breath for no change this year.
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I don't really see how they can improve on this season's home shirt to be honest. I'd keep that and just change the away one and maybe release a third shirt if they're set on two new shirts a season.
Apart from it being completely the wrong colour and still got a crap badge.
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I like this seasons, the colour of both the claret and the blue both look faded but it gives it an oldy worldy feel. However I would like a return to the usual colours this year. The kids kits are spot on for some reason, proper shades of c and b. Would love a blue hoop around the collar like 92-93 or dare I say it west ham last season.
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I don't really see how they can improve on this season's home shirt to be honest. I'd keep that and just change the away one and maybe release a third shirt if they're set on two new shirts a season.
Apart from it being completely the wrong colour and still got a crap badge.
And the expense, don't forget the expense.
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Not sure why people get so hung up on the badge, surely there's bigger things to worry about?
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Heard of someone at the weekend that the home shirt will have gold/yellow pin-strips and the away kit is black with a claret and blue horizontal band... don't shoot the messenger!
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Heard of someone at the weekend that the home shirt will have gold/yellow pin-strips and the away kit is black with a claret and blue horizontal band... don't shoot the messenger!
The away sounds like the template of last season Spurs home shirt.
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The away sounds fine. As for the home, well I wouldn't want to overreact on the basis of speculation.
But if it's gold pinstripes I'm burning down the stadium.
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You know what tends to happen when we wear stripes, though...
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Cup Final time!
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Gold pinstripes?? Sounds like an Imagination tour t shirt.
Ask your folks, kids.
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We'll look dashing.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/31/e0/db/31e0db6e4c9cb5d382bced579fef7c9c.jpg)
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We'll look dashing.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/31/e0/db/31e0db6e4c9cb5d382bced579fef7c9c.jpg)
In the New Wolves kit ?
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So, we've had the first leak of next seasons kits. As always, very un inspiring.
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As always, very un inspiring.
What exactly would be inspiring?
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As always, very un inspiring.
What exactly would be inspiring?
(https://footballpinkdotnet.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/shaw.jpg)
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As always, very un inspiring.
What exactly would be inspiring?
(http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/sport-football-pic-circa-1981-dennis-mortimer-aston-villa-19781984-picture-id79648074)
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Anyone with any knowledge of the villa and a bit of commercial kudos would quickly work out that a proper claret and blue shirt with a round badge would sell better than toys in hamleys
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As always, very un inspiring.
What exactly would be inspiring?
(http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/sport-football-pic-circa-1981-dennis-mortimer-aston-villa-19781984-picture-id79648074)
I agree - claret body, blue sleeves, just like we've had every year since the turn of the century. Hence my confusion that our shirts are 'as always, very uninspiring'.
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People always seem to get annoyed no matter what shirt/kit we bring out.
This is the first time I can remember anyone getting wound up by a semi-visible computer image of what our strip might look like.
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Does anyone have a link to the leak...or has it dried up? Apologies for the crap plumbing pun.
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Does anyone have a link to the leak...or has it dried up? Apologies for the crap plumbing pun.
It's been blocked.
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As always, very un inspiring.
What exactly would be inspiring?
(http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/sport-football-pic-circa-1981-dennis-mortimer-aston-villa-19781984-picture-id79648074)
I am not a religious man, a club , a manager ,a support and a team surpassed by none.
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As always, very un inspiring.
What exactly would be inspiring?
(http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/sport-football-pic-circa-1981-dennis-mortimer-aston-villa-19781984-picture-id79648074)
I am not a religious man, a Club , a Manager , a Captain ,a Support and a Team surpassed by none.
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http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/rumour-new-aston-villa-home-13060573
are these there shirts you're on about? Computer mock ups for sure and the shade of blue on the home top is far far far too dark/turquoise. I don't believe for a minute these are legit.
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http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/rumour-new-aston-villa-home-13060573
are these there shirts you're on about? Computer mock ups for sure and the shade of blue on the home top is far far far too dark/turquoise. I don't believe for a minute these are legit.
Apart from the sleeve blue on the home top I quite like those
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http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/rumour-new-aston-villa-home-13060573
are these there shirts you're on about? Computer mock ups for sure and the shade of blue on the home top is far far far too dark/turquoise. I don't believe for a minute these are legit.
Apart from the sleeve blue on the home top I quite like those
I like the away one. Very 1957 cup final feel about it.
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Is there a sale going on at Villa Village does anyone know? Wouldn't mind some of the Under Armour gear from this year
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At the Brighton game all the current kits were in the sales
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To save anyone from having to click the link.
(http://i2.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/article13060530.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Internet-mock-ups-of-the-new-Aston-Villa-kit-Twitter-screengrabs.jpg)
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I like both of those, mainly because they're quite plain and the sponsor's unobtrusive.
Shame they're probably nothing like it.
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Not bad but they look more like casual or training wear than the kit.
I would also imagine there would be some kind of design around the neck.
Also glad to see the back of that huge QuickBooks logo plastered over our shirts.
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(http://thumb.ibb.co/f609JF/10306480_1092610477419022_41544308083513607_n.jpg) (http://ibb.co/f609JF)
My eldest in the background is wearing an original shirt that i proudly wore as a child. I'd love to see the round badge back.
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I'm concerned that I'm going to think of a really irritating song by a talentless fat twat from Stoke every time I see one of our shirts close up.
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Not bad but they look more like casual or training wear than the kit.
I would also imagine there would be some kind of design around the neck.
Also glad to see the back of that huge QuickBooks logo plastered over our shirts.
So what is the technical difference between training wear and match wear?
Or is it just another way of shifting merchandise?
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I believe, and I may be way out of my depth here, "trainingwear" consists of items of clothing worn during training, whereas, by contrast, "matchwear" tends to focus more on attire which one might wear during matches.
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I believe, and I may be way out of my depth here, "trainingwear" consists of items of clothing worn during training, whereas, by contrast, "matchwear" tends to focus more on attire which one might wear during matches.
Thanks for clearing that up.
I will never train in a match shirt again.
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I'll just never do any exercise again. You can't be too careful.
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Is Robbie to Bono your Gareth Southgate to McGrath?
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If Tony's Millennium Films sponsor us for £200 million per season we wouldn't have to be concerned about FFP.
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(http://thumb.ibb.co/f609JF/10306480_1092610477419022_41544308083513607_n.jpg) (http://ibb.co/f609JF)
My eldest in the background is wearing an original shirt that i proudly wore as a child. I'd love to see the round badge back.
That's ace.
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If Tony's Millennium Films sponsor us for £200 million per season we wouldn't have to be concerned about FFP.
Didn't Man City do something like that with the naming rights of their stadium ??
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Is Robbie to Bono your Gareth Southgate to McGrath?
Pretty much. Chris Martin would have to be the third part of the Axis of Evil.
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I like this kit. I may even buy and wear the shirt however it will match day wear only no training day🙂
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I'm certainly in a minority but I like both of them. However, decide which blue you're using, Under Armour.
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Both of those mock ups are shit.
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Both of those mock ups are shit.
They make a mockery of mockups.
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West Ham sleeve colour.
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I did two mockups of my own design. I added this year's sponsor for a reference point until we know the new one
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_zZq1hXYAAtkhN.png)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAMIcneU0AIZTH7.png)
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Both of those mock ups are shit.
They make a mockery of mockups.
Just look where the claret ends and the blue sleeves begin on the home shirt: it's not even symmetrical.
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Yes! Happy Marshall Kit Day, everybody!
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We'll look dashing.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/31/e0/db/31e0db6e4c9cb5d382bced579fef7c9c.jpg)
We'd have to wet a hat with that kit.
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I don't really see how they can improve on this season's home shirt to be honest. I'd keep that and just change the away one and maybe release a third shirt if they're set on two new shirts a season.
Apart from it being completely the wrong colour and still got a crap badge.
Yeah but apart from that it's great👍
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We'll look dashing.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/31/e0/db/31e0db6e4c9cb5d382bced579fef7c9c.jpg)
We'd have to wet a hat with that kit.
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To save anyone from having to click the link.
(http://i2.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/article13060530.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Internet-mock-ups-of-the-new-Aston-Villa-kit-Twitter-screengrabs.jpg)
Looks like the kits of a shit lower division side.
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Yikes!!!!! :o dont like the home, away is okish
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I did two mockups of my own design. I added this year's sponsor for a reference point until we know the new one
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_zZq1hXYAAtkhN.png)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAMIcneU0AIZTH7.png)
Home kit looks like the one we wore in the last cup final season.
It's an interesting point when we last played in proper claret rather than shades of purple.
At the risk of going all nostalgic about the mid 90s again the kits we wore back then were fantastic particularly the year Collymore signed.
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To save anyone from having to click the link.
(http://i2.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/article13060530.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Internet-mock-ups-of-the-new-Aston-Villa-kit-Twitter-screengrabs.jpg)
Looks like the kits of a shit lower division side.
< Insert the really obvious punchline here.>
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Bugger me those sleeves :o
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Bugger me those sleeves :o
They're cock-eyed.
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A friend of mine who sells Under Armour gear in his shop informs me we have 3 kits for next season which he saw 6 months ago.Home shirt has a V-neck with embroided lions similar to Chelseas,away is black with claret stripe i think he said and 3rd strip is white.Training gear is turquoise
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To save anyone from having to click the link.
(http://i2.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/article13060530.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Internet-mock-ups-of-the-new-Aston-Villa-kit-Twitter-screengrabs.jpg)
Looks like the kits of a shit lower division side.
Absolutely, that is truly hideous.
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To save anyone from having to click the link.
(http://i2.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/article13060530.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Internet-mock-ups-of-the-new-Aston-Villa-kit-Twitter-screengrabs.jpg)
Looks like the kits of a shit lower division side.
Absolutely, that is truly hideous.
Is somebody taking the p***. It looks like a turquoise T-shirt with a claret(?) training bib over the top.
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Talk of embroidery is giving me the vapours.
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Talk of embroidery is giving me the vapours.
You're Turning Japanese?
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Talk of embroidery is giving me the vapours.
You're Turning Japanese?
I really think so.
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Talk of embroidery is giving me the vapours.
You're Turning Japanese?
I really think so.
Everyone around me is a total stranger
Everyone avoids me like a psyched lone-ranger Everyone
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I always thought it was "cyclone ranger". It makes more sense, now.
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What a daft thing to think! So did I.
That was one of the first singles I bought.
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I thought it was cycle ranger.
You live and learn.
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(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAhHQUcXkAMSwJD.png)
(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAhHSlQXcAETzRZ.png)
Sponsor added for reference
*Edited by PWS to fix your links
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Both home and away are lovely designs.
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Just shown those mock ups to my 12 year old lad and we both love the away, that is a fantastic top with black shorts and claret socks
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Yeah, I like them too.
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To save anyone from having to click the link.
(http://i2.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/article13060530.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Internet-mock-ups-of-the-new-Aston-Villa-kit-Twitter-screengrabs.jpg)
Looks like the kits of a shit lower division side.
Absolutely, that is truly hideous.
It actually looks like the kit we play on Fifa/Pro evo as "West Midlands Village" if they still haven't got the licence.
I would guess at this moment that is possibly going to be leisure wear than the actual kit.
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Really love that away kit. I know we've had Black before but the Claret slash is a very nice touch. Reminds me of the kit Rayo Vallecano play in....
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Talk of embroidery is giving me the vapours.
Mickey Flanagan was on the telly last week talking about that song and explaining what "turning Japanese" meant.
You're Turning Japanese?
I really think so.
Everyone around me is a total stranger
Everyone avoids me like a psyched lone-ranger Everyone
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Nice kits Marshall.
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Ta Marshall. See you same time next year, I guess.
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(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAhHQUcXkAMSwJD.png)
(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAhHSlQXcAETzRZ.png)
Sponsor added for reference
*Edited by PWS to fix your links
Be perfect if only we had a proper round badge to go on it.
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Are these designs done on fashion wheel?
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Is there any official news on the new kit launch or what it will actually look like?
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Sponsor hasn't been signed and kit will be launched early to mid July. I've been told that the club shop is being done out again and kit will launch when the shop reopens.
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(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAhHQUcXkAMSwJD.png)
(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAhHSlQXcAETzRZ.png)
Sponsor added for reference
*Edited by PWS to fix your links
Be perfect if only we had a proper round badge to go on it.
What's the obsession with a round badge?
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Quite simply because the current badge is considered by many to be substandard compared to the round badge that used to adorn the Villa shirt.
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Quite simply because the current badge is considered by many to be substandard compared to the round badge that used to adorn the Villa shirt.
For a fraction of our history.
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That away kit looks like it has had the Miss Butlins Minehead runner-up sash pinned to it.
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why does it always take us so long to release the new kit??
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why does it always take us so long to release the new kit??
So we have to suffer the painful paintshop efforts
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Quite simply because the current badge is considered by many to be substandard compared to the round badge that used to adorn the Villa shirt.
For a fraction of our history.
The bit of our history that had the best badge in it.
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why does it always take us so long to release the new kit??
This is a good point. When you're trying to sell T-shirts and shorts, it's not a good idea to wait until half the Summer has gone.
With the season finishing earlier than we are used to, we really should have had at least one of them on sale by now.
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why does it always take us so long to release the new kit??
June July August left and you want it out in May?
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May seems the sensible time to release it, to me.
I suppose it might be contractual that we can't do anything until after this weekend, as we could still be playing in the old kit if we had made the Playoff Final.
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to be honest they change the kit that often ,there is only so many variations you can make other than change the colour , woops
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I suppose it might be contractual that we can't do anything until after this weekend, as we could still be playing in the old kit if we had made the Playoff Final.
Haven't we played the final league game in next year's kit before?
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If we are staying with Under Armour there's no issues with crossover...it would only apply if we were moving to another manufacturer. Anyway, what is this 'Play off final' you speak of??
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I'm guessing the delay will be sorting the new sponsor.
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I'd forgotten it was Under Armour.
Don't buy, boycott. Murdering ******.
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I'd forgotten it was Under Armour.
Don't buy, boycott. Murdering c***s.
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UA support hunting for sport (allegedly).
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There's no "allegedly" about it. They actively promote animal slaughter and have a Twitter page and an entire clothing range devoted to it. Scum.
https://twitter.com/uahunt?lang=en
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They kill endangered animals for fun.
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More than happy to remove the "allegedly" after visiting that link. I've previously signed the petition against UA but even still didn't realise their support for such hunting was so blatant. There was a post on here by someone stating that UA had distanced themselves from such conduct, but it appears that was inaccurate. I wont be buying any UA Villa merchandise.
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I asked about this at The Trust AGM and The club did query it and got back to me.
They said that Under Armour make sports equipment for a range of sports including hunting, but only support ethical hunting.
I honestly don't know how much credence to give this, but I am pleased that the club took it seriously and contacted Under Armour to voice their concerns, and got back to me.
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Before clicking on that twitter link I was trying to picture a UA red fox hunting tunic, which naturally seems ridiculous.
However, I can't think of any circumstances where hunting live animals with a crossbow in this day and age can be justified. Those images promote the life style that the US gun lobby would want us to believe.
On that basis, I won't be buying any Villa UA merchandise, and stick to my vintage gear.
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Shame to see Baggies have launched new kit and training wear ...... end of May !!
Why are we always so far behind on this one ....... I think like us they have a new shirt sponsor but same kit provider
Lets get our act together on this one in future years !!
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Shame to see Baggies have launched new kit and training wear ...... end of May !!
Why are we always so far behind on this one ....... I think like us they have a new shirt sponsor but same kit provider
Lets get our act together on this one in future years !!!
Let's see what it looks like first, I know we are a tortoise in getting our kits out.... who's to say theirs won't be a shocker ? 🙏
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I suppose it might be contractual that we can't do anything until after this weekend, as we could still be playing in the old kit if we had made the Playoff Final.
Haven't we played the final league game in next year's kit before?
I suppose it might be contractual that we can't do anything until after this weekend, as we could still be playing in the old kit if we had made the Playoff Final.
Haven't we played the final league game in next year's kit before?
Yes. The year we had the all claret shirt with NTL sponsor, we wore it for the final home game the previous season
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Shame to see Baggies have launched new kit and training wear ...... end of May !!
Why are we always so far behind on this one ....... I think like us they have a new shirt sponsor but same kit provider
Lets get our act together on this one in future years !!!
Let's see what it looks like first, I know we are a tortoise in getting our kits out.... who's to say theirs won't be a shocker ? 🙏
|Your right - the few baggies fans in the world are already up in arms about the positioning of that bird depending on size of shirt bought.
I just want a traditional claret and blue shirt - is that too much to ask for? Obviously it is.
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More than happy to remove the "allegedly" after visiting that link. I've previously signed the petition against UA but even still didn't realise their support for such hunting was so blatant. There was a post on here by someone stating that UA had distanced themselves from such conduct, but it appears that was inaccurate. I wont be buying any UA Villa merchandise.
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I asked about this at The Trust AGM and The club did query it and got back to me.
They said that Under Armour make sports equipment for a range of sports including hunting, but only support ethical hunting.
I honestly don't know how much credence to give this, but I am pleased that the club took it seriously and contacted Under Armour to voice their concerns, and got back to me.
I got an email from the petition the other day with a picture of Under Armour's Vice President, Brian Offcut, posing with a dead deer. Whatever they told Villa, they condone trophy killing alright.
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Next season's away kit will be red, for 2 reasons:
1,red is a lucky colour in China.
2, to make all these Barnsley players the Birmingham Mail keep linking us with feel at home.
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Under Armour have a hunt page on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/UAHunt
And do their own hunt programme, featuring VP Bryan Offut.
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In relation to FFP, if we are going to be sponsored by Recon, given that they own the club, is this likely to be refused as income towards bringing in revenue to satisfy the rules? Is that how it works? Would we need to locate a completely different sponsor, and DOES it help with FFP?
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In relation to FFP, if we are going to be sponsored by Recon, given that they own the club, is this likely to be refused as income towards bringing in revenue to satisfy the rules? Is that how it works? Would we need to locate a completely different sponsor, and DOES it help with FFP?
As far as I understand it won't be refused unless we try to take the piss. If the sponsorship is reasonable for a club of our size and stature (i.e. not massively dissimilar to previous deals) then it shouldn't be an issue.
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In relation to FFP, if we are going to be sponsored by Recon, given that they own the club, is this likely to be refused as income towards bringing in revenue to satisfy the rules? Is that how it works? Would we need to locate a completely different sponsor, and DOES it help with FFP?
As far as I understand it won't be refused unless we try to take the piss. If the sponsorship is reasonable for a club of our size and stature (i.e. not massively dissimilar to previous deals) then it shouldn't be an issue.
This is what really makes me incredibly concerned about the integrity of football and the future of Villa. A club of our size and stature should be getting deals as big as (or - if I'm being fair - bigger) deals than a Man City or Spurs yet, for some reason, we are not allowed? This kind of dubious rule change is killing us and ossifying the top six.
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There's a competition called champions league which these sponsors seem to quite like being seen on sadly we are not involved at the moment.
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In relation to FFP, if we are going to be sponsored by Recon, given that they own the club, is this likely to be refused as income towards bringing in revenue to satisfy the rules? Is that how it works? Would we need to locate a completely different sponsor, and DOES it help with FFP?
As far as I understand it won't be refused unless we try to take the piss. If the sponsorship is reasonable for a club of our size and stature (i.e. not massively dissimilar to previous deals) then it shouldn't be an issue.
This is what really makes me incredibly concerned about the integrity of football and the future of Villa. A club of our size and stature should be getting deals as big as (or - if I'm being fair - bigger) deals than a Man City or Spurs yet, for some reason, we are not allowed? This kind of dubious rule change is killing us and ossifying the top six.
That's not really the case, if we could convince a company with no connections to Xia or the club to give £200m a year there'd be nothing anyone could do about (but you can guarantee there'd be lots of investigations into it) the 'restrictions' are entirely around using one of your companies to sponsor the club for however much cash you want to inject. You can thank Man City for it being a problem.
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In relation to FFP, if we are going to be sponsored by Recon, given that they own the club, is this likely to be refused as income towards bringing in revenue to satisfy the rules? Is that how it works? Would we need to locate a completely different sponsor, and DOES it help with FFP?
As far as I understand it won't be refused unless we try to take the piss. If the sponsorship is reasonable for a club of our size and stature (i.e. not massively dissimilar to previous deals) then it shouldn't be an issue.
This is what really makes me incredibly concerned about the integrity of football and the future of Villa. A club of our size and stature should be getting deals as big as (or - if I'm being fair - bigger) deals than a Man City or Spurs yet, for some reason, we are not allowed? This kind of dubious rule change is killing us and ossifying the top six.
Nurse ive found him, in the tardis thinking it was 2009
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Spotted this on facebook, no idea if it's real or not but worth sharing - http://www.footyheadlines.com/2017/06/aston-villa-17-18-home-kit.html
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If its the real deal, there are just too many lions on the shirt - One is enough .
Without the embossed lions that's not too bad a design
It wont please those wishing for a return to a round badge
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Presume it was gonna be one of Dr Tony's companies as sponsor but surely they'd have announced that by now? Chinese betting company?
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You won't really see the lions as much I imagine straight on. Looks very simple. I like it.
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Looks nice. In 12 months time it'd be nice if we'd mark our promotion to the PL with a return to the old round badge. That awful Lerner crest has never looked right.
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In relation to FFP, if we are going to be sponsored by Recon, given that they own the club, is this likely to be refused as income towards bringing in revenue to satisfy the rules? Is that how it works? Would we need to locate a completely different sponsor, and DOES it help with FFP?
As far as I understand it won't be refused unless we try to take the piss. If the sponsorship is reasonable for a club of our size and stature (i.e. not massively dissimilar to previous deals) then it shouldn't be an issue.
This is what really makes me incredibly concerned about the integrity of football and the future of Villa. A club of our size and stature should be getting deals as big as (or - if I'm being fair - bigger) deals than a Man City or Spurs yet, for some reason, we are not allowed? This kind of dubious rule change is killing us and ossifying the top six.
Nurse ive found him, in the tardis thinking it was 2009
Ha! Not at all - the point is we never (for one reason or another) seem to get a fair deal for sponsorship money. In 2009 we would have been challenging for a top four place and would have been the fourth most trophied club in England but I'm willing to bet our various commercial/sponsorship deals (I appreciate the Acorns deal was around about this time) did not reflect this.
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Not keen. much prefer last seasons, at least it had a proper collar which is what lets this one down, it just looks like a training top. the shades of claret and blue same as last year too which I didn't mind for one season at least. Most disappointing shirt since 2010-11 chequered Nike thing.
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That'll do nicely - nailed on for promotion!
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Awful
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I do like a hooped sock, however, the best sock of all was the white with light blue and claret striped top, circa 74-81.
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Only time I liked hoops was on the 1997-98 AST kit.
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I like the look of the new away kit. If true
http://7500toholte.sbnation.com/2017/6/2/15728296/17-18-aston-villa-away-kit-leaks
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I'd be happy with one of their hunting designs for our away shirt, they are pretty cool.
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Not keen on either this season if confirmed. Oh well.
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The kits look 100% better without any sponsor name across the front
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They both look excellent. A shame, as I was hoping they'd be shit this year to fuck with Under Armour's profits.
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I like the away one better.
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Never been a great fan of black away tops, preferring white or yellow.
I have to admit, though, that this one is pretty good.
Manufacturers cant win with our home top, though. Have a play with designs and it's 'Not traditional', keep it traditional and it 'Same old...'
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Two very smart kits. Best we've had in years, and hopefully we'll have a decent team to put in them.
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Don't like the shadow lions on the supposed home top and don't like the pixels on the supposed away top. Apart from that they're ok
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If there is one thing that Bloooose and Albion do better than us its kits.
Kits by Adidas are good - don't think anyone could argue this point.
I want a traditional claret and blue home version and either a white with sky blue shorts or yellow shirt with blue shorts for our away. Appears as usual that I am going to be disappointed.
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If there is one thing that Bloooose and Albion do better than us its kits.
Kits by Adidas are good - don't think anyone could argue this point.
I want a traditional claret and blue home version and either a white with sky blue shorts or yellow shirt with blue shorts for our away. Appears as usual that I am going to be disappointed.
A man after my own heart, agree on all your points Witton, but I would add a collar to the requirements......
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If there is one thing that Bloooose and Albion do better than us its kits.
Kits by Adidas are good - don't think anyone could argue this point.
I want a traditional claret and blue home version and either a white with sky blue shorts or yellow shirt with blue shorts for our away. Appears as usual that I am going to be disappointed.
Personally, I think adidas kits aren't all that, particularly the West Brom one. That and the Sturk one are as dull as it's possible to be.
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Blues kits have been fucking crap over the years.
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Apart from the obvious defect e.g the colour and the simply facts it's them they have had very few poor ones as compared to ours. Possibly they have better control over there kits with their manufacturers.
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You seem to pay a lot of attention to their kits. I have no idea if the royal blue is a true royal blue or if the blue in Albions is right. And frankly couldn't give one tenth of one fuck.
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But you have to be honest and say Villa kits are so often way off thee mark with our minimum expectations - my argument is that whilst we are the biggest, the best and everything else in the West Midlands our history with kits stinks we got promoted back into Div 1 in the late 80's.
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If there is one thing that Bloooose and Albion do better than us its kits.
Kits by Adidas are good - don't think anyone could argue this point.
I want a traditional claret and blue home version and either a white with sky blue shorts or yellow shirt with blue shorts for our away. Appears as usual that I am going to be disappointed.
A man after my own heart, agree on all your points Witton, but I would add a collar to the requirements......
And mine
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Not sure the club are losing any sleep over it because they have sold our merchandising rights, but nevertheless imagine the tills ringing if only they produced a kit resembling the mid to late 70's one with the round badge or the away kit from the 83 final. Or even at a push the Championship kit. I am no marketing expert but if I can spot these simple things, those in the know should be thinking they have won the lottery. Just shows how detached the club is to the supporters.
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The oroblem with all the complaints over the kit every year is that if we won the FA cuo wearing it it would become a classic straight away.
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The oroblem with all the complaints over the kit every year is that if we won the FA cuo wearing it it would become a classic straight away.
I guess we'll never know whether that's true. Sigh...
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Not sure the club are losing any sleep over it because they have sold our merchandising rights, but nevertheless imagine the tills ringing if only they produced a kit resembling the mid to late 70's one with the round badge or the away kit from the 83 final. Or even at a push the Championship kit. I am no marketing expert but if I can spot these simple things, those in the know should be thinking they have won the lottery. Just shows how detached the club is to the supporters.
No, it's how detached they are from one supporter - you. What you want might strike a chord with others on here, but Villa Park isn't full of seventies/early eighties obsessives and many of our fans don't remember Brian Little as a manager never mind a player. That's who shirt designs are targeted at because there's more of them than us.
And that thing about merchandising rights - of course they care about how much they sell. Their revenue is based on it.
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It would be great if it is actually claret and blue not the nasty purpley colour we so often end up with.
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It would be great if it is actually claret and blue not the nasty purpley colour we so often end up with.
Yep. Last season my wife's friend and her American boyfriend visited us during a televised Villa away game. The American fella knew nothing about our football and hadn't seen a Villa kit before in his life. He said to me; " So you're supporting the team in the purple, right?"
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A few things here:
1. All teams suffer from time to time with "poor kits" - a poor kit in my book is either one that is either diabolical or one which clearly detracts from their history and tradition. But very few annoy their supporters so regularly. The only clubs where I could see supporters pulling up tree trunks more than us, are Cardiff when their had the red kit, Crystal Palace who really do not know what colour they should be playing in and Manchester City.
Man City at least at the foresight to revise their badge to one that reflects their history.
2. Younger fans may not know Brian Little the footballer or manager but they are well versed in the traditions and history. We even miss a trick with the 57 cup final shirt, - imagine the sales if Villa marketed that perhaps as a cup shirt, sales would go out the roof. Arsenal and Man Ure have done the same in the past with reasonable success.
3. As for the badge - okay for only for a relatively short period did we have the round badge, but is is commonly thought of as a badge of success, only got to look at match day banners and how many of them incorporate the round badge.
4. The club as a minimum should only agree to a traditional claret and blue kit (with the possible exception as mentioned above of the 57 kit.
Apart from West ham and their London badge, both them and Burnley as well as Hearts don't appear to have problems in producing a Claret and where applicable claret/blue version or a plum/purple one.
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Although I consider modern Villa kits to be mostly ghastly, it's my view and I'm clearly in the minority.
However, people of my ilk are well catered for with retro shirts which have been available at the club now for yonks. I can't really see a goldmine in replicating a 50's or 70's kit for today's Villa squad, or fans who like to buy the new stuff.
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It would be great if it is actually claret and blue not the nasty purpley colour we so often end up with.
Yep. Last season my wife's friend and her American boyfriend visited us during a televised Villa away game. The American fella knew nothing about our football and hadn't seen a Villa kit before in his life. He said to me; " So you're supporting the team in the purple, right?"
In fairness, even wearing the proper shade of claret, what non-football fan would use that word to describe our colours?
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Burgundy. 1959 Nuits St. Georges.
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My inlaws took my eldest to the club shop a fortnight ago as a birthday treat. Came away with nothing as they had no gear available. The whole place seems to becoming a bit of a joke
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My inlaws took my eldest to the club shop a fortnight ago as a birthday treat. Came away with nothing as they had no gear available. The whole place seems to becoming a bit of a joke
Would he have bought old merchandise?
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Given the importance placed on revenue from shirt sales these days, and the fact that we aren't changing manufacturer, we really should be getting new stuff out and on sale quicker than we do.
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A few things here:
1. All teams suffer from time to time with "poor kits" - a poor kit in my book is either one that is either diabolical or one which clearly detracts from their history and tradition. But very few annoy their supporters so regularly. The only clubs where I could see supporters pulling up tree trunks more than us, are Cardiff when their had the red kit, Crystal Palace who really do not know what colour they should be playing in and Manchester City.
Man City at least at the foresight to revise their badge to one that reflects their history.
2. Younger fans may not know Brian Little the footballer or manager but they are well versed in the traditions and history. We even miss a trick with the 57 cup final shirt, - imagine the sales if Villa marketed that perhaps as a cup shirt, sales would go out the roof. Arsenal and Man Ure have done the same in the past with reasonable success.
3. As for the badge - okay for only for a relatively short period did we have the round badge, but is is commonly thought of as a badge of success, only got to look at match day banners and how many of them incorporate the round badge.
4. The club as a minimum should only agree to a traditional claret and blue kit (with the possible exception as mentioned above of the 57 kit.
Apart from West ham and their London badge, both them and Burnley as well as Hearts don't appear to have problems in producing a Claret and where applicable claret/blue version or a plum/purple one.
WW, I disagree re West Ham. They have had a succession of abysmal kits over the years. Burnley however seem to get the colours right every year.
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My inlaws took my eldest to the club shop a fortnight ago as a birthday treat. Came away with nothing as they had no gear available. The whole place seems to becoming a bit of a joke
Would he have bought old merchandise?
Yes. He wanted some training gear. They had none for his age
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Burnley however seem to get the colours right every year.
As a Blackburn-supporting friend of mine would be quick to tell you, when they were founded members of the Football League, Burnley played in blue and white. They didn't play in claret and blue until after the First World War.
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My inlaws took my eldest to the club shop a fortnight ago as a birthday treat. Came away with nothing as they had no gear available. The whole place seems to becoming a bit of a joke
Would he have bought old merchandise?
Yes. He wanted some training gear. They had none for his age
The issue with the shop and merchandise sticks out like a sore thumb. We sold the mechanising rights and the company who have taken over show no more imagination as the club themselves showed when running and losing right, left and centre money. Suppose we have to give them time to evaluate and get things right, but from what I have seen no improvement on the shop floor.
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Some people are seriously stuck in the 70s/80s.
It's 2017. Tastes and designs change. Deal with it.
Just get the colour as claret and not purple. After that everything else doesn't matter.
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I don't think I'm stuck in the 70s/80s, but I'm eternally grateful to have been around then. The best team we've ever had, the best kits, the best badge, the best floodlights and the largest bank of terracing in England. What's wrong with wanting to try to emulate some of those things. But you're right, this is 2017 and they can't even get the feckin colours right.
#wedon'tplayinpurple
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Some people are seriously stuck in the 70s/80s.
It's 2017. Tastes and designs change. Deal with it.
Amen. We had pretty much identicle replicas of the European Cup winning home and away shirts under Macron and have had countless excellent kits since the 80s.
To say Blues and Albion have had better kits than us since then is absurd.
I thought last seasons home was one of the nicest shirts we've had in ages, with a proper button up collar and look forward to seeing the new ones in the flesh.
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i'm not too fussed about the design as long as it's claret and blue. I wouldn't touch the last two or three efforts with a barge pole, let alone pay 50 odd quid for them, simply because they appear to be purple and lilac. I do wonder why any Villa fan would want to buy them, but each to their own.
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I do wonder who's decision it is or was to change or approve what is clearly a much different shade of claret and blue, and for what reason.
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It would be great if it is actually claret and blue not the nasty purpley colour we so often end up with.
Yep. Last season my wife's friend and her American boyfriend visited us during a televised Villa away game. The American fella knew nothing about our football and hadn't seen a Villa kit before in his life. He said to me; " So you're supporting the team in the purple, right?"
In fairness, even wearing the proper shade of claret, what non-football fan would use that word to describe our colours?
When I was a kid and much to my exasperation my Gran (from Dundee) always called it mauve.
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I do wonder who's decision it is or was to change or approve what is clearly a much different shade of claret and blue, and for what reason.
I emailed the club about the shirt colour being wrong a while ago when I was looking for a shirt for my son. Their response was that they provided the appropriate colour template to the manufacturers. I replied that the template was clearly wrong as supplied to both Macron and UA, and pointed out the massive difference to the colours of the various retro shirts in their own shop. They didn't respond further.
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(http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss215/andypowell74/Screen%20Shot%202016-07-29%20at%2013.17.29_zpsft1ndb18.png) (http://s577.photobucket.com/user/andypowell74/media/Screen%20Shot%202016-07-29%20at%2013.17.29_zpsft1ndb18.png.html)
As ever, it's not difficult. Straight from the brand guidelines.
Any creative studio worth its salt would get a proof or sample back for approval.
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(http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss215/andypowell74/Screen%20Shot%202016-07-29%20at%2013.17.29_zpsft1ndb18.png) (http://s577.photobucket.com/user/andypowell74/media/Screen%20Shot%202016-07-29%20at%2013.17.29_zpsft1ndb18.png.html)
As ever, it's not difficult. Straight from the brand guidelines.
Any creative studio worth its salt would get a proof or sample back for approval.
Hmmm,
Or follow this link to see how many alternatives come up when you type in Claret...
https://www.pantone.com/color-finder?q=claret
(https://www.pantone.com/color-finder?q=claret)
Or this one to see what happens if you use their colour selector thingy..
https://www.pantone.com/color-finder?q=%239A4741 (https://www.pantone.com/color-finder?q=%239A4741)
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(http://thumb.ibb.co/hKkRqv/33166.jpg) (http://ibb.co/hKkRqv)
It'll probably be nothing like this but this is along the lines of what I'd like to see.
Excuse the standard I'm not artist in anyway and that's the best I could do hahaha
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Marshall, someone's trying to nick your job!
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Anyway, needs proper blue sleeves, imo.
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(http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss215/andypowell74/Screen%20Shot%202016-07-29%20at%2013.17.29_zpsft1ndb18.png) (http://s577.photobucket.com/user/andypowell74/media/Screen%20Shot%202016-07-29%20at%2013.17.29_zpsft1ndb18.png.html)
As ever, it's not difficult. Straight from the brand guidelines.
Any creative studio worth its salt would get a proof or sample back for approval.
Hmmm,
Or follow this link to see how many alternatives come up when you type in Claret...
https://www.pantone.com/color-finder?q=claret
(https://www.pantone.com/color-finder?q=claret)
Or this one to see what happens if you use their colour selector thingy..
https://www.pantone.com/color-finder?q=%239A4741 (https://www.pantone.com/color-finder?q=%239A4741)
Quite a variation, but I don't see any shade on either link that resemble the purply shade that Macron and UA appear to have been instructed to use. Conversely there are quite a few that resemble many of the retro shirts.
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It would be an interesting exercise if we could set up a vote system to ascertain what we believe is the true Villa claret and blue using the pantone colour samples. I suspect that we may get a variance of answers as we have all been influenced by certain factors. With myself my 'personal' claret and blue would be remembered from my first Villa team of 1967/68 season. However some other might be influence by Hummel kits or the 'Rover' logo shirt ( still one of my favourites).
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A lasting memory for me of the late seventies shirts, was how dark they turned when wet. Awesome.
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I was in the shop about 2 months ago asking for a product they didn't have any stock of and was told they were clearing the decks for a complete relaunch with entire new range in June-time....
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A lasting memory for me of the late seventies shirts, was how dark they turned when wet. Awesome.
Sounds sexy.
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(http://thumb.ibb.co/hKkRqv/33166.jpg) (http://ibb.co/hKkRqv)
It'll probably be nothing like this but this is along the lines of what I'd like to see.
Excuse the standard I'm not artist in anyway and that's the best I could do hahaha
Comes with its own parachute? Nice.
Not sure the uber fitted route is the way we should go with some of the porkers we have on the books.
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(http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss215/andypowell74/Screen%20Shot%202016-07-29%20at%2013.17.29_zpsft1ndb18.png) (http://s577.photobucket.com/user/andypowell74/media/Screen%20Shot%202016-07-29%20at%2013.17.29_zpsft1ndb18.png.html)
As ever, it's not difficult. Straight from the brand guidelines.
Any creative studio worth its salt would get a proof or sample back for approval.
Hmmm,
Or follow this link to see how many alternatives come up when you type in Claret...
https://www.pantone.com/color-finder?q=claret
(https://www.pantone.com/color-finder?q=claret)
Or this one to see what happens if you use their colour selector thingy..
https://www.pantone.com/color-finder?q=%239A4741 (https://www.pantone.com/color-finder?q=%239A4741)
You're missing the point. There's an exact Pantone colour 229; it will have versions that are colour-matched to different types of stock, coated paper, uncoated paper etc to give a consistent best match. I'm a creative director, I know how this stuff works. And believe me, it's really not difficult – and if there's any doubt for when a job goes to the printers, factories or wherever, you simply ask for a proof to be signed off.
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(http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss215/andypowell74/Screen%20Shot%202016-07-29%20at%2013.17.29_zpsft1ndb18.png) (http://s577.photobucket.com/user/andypowell74/media/Screen%20Shot%202016-07-29%20at%2013.17.29_zpsft1ndb18.png.html)
As ever, it's not difficult. Straight from the brand guidelines.
Any creative studio worth its salt would get a proof or sample back for approval.
Hmmm,
Or follow this link to see how many alternatives come up when you type in Claret...
https://www.pantone.com/color-finder?q=claret
(https://www.pantone.com/color-finder?q=claret)
Or this one to see what happens if you use their colour selector thingy..
https://www.pantone.com/color-finder?q=%239A4741 (https://www.pantone.com/color-finder?q=%239A4741)
You're missing the point. There's an exact Pantone colour 229; it will have versions that are colour-matched to different types of stock, coated paper, uncoated paper etc to give a consistent best match. I'm a creative director, I know how this stuff works. And believe me, it's really not difficult – and if there's any doubt for when a job goes to the printers, factories or wherever, you simply ask for a proof to be signed off.
b b b but Villa claret isn't the same as pantone claret. Villa claret is in the eye of the beholder (provided the beholder is a Villa fan). If Tony Pantone is a Villa fan then I might listen to him. We do need clarety clarity.
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My mate does a bit on the net re-painting old and painting up new subbuteo kits. Each kit has a specified airfix paint code to use. Before anyone says it's you, no it's not, it's genuinely a mate that does it. He makes pretty good coin from it- gets all the original boxes etc. I wouldn't have the skill or the patience. The variation of the kits we've had down the years from pink to purple is terrible.
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Its easy, take a 1980 -81 shirt into Homebase, they do a colour match . Job done
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(http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss215/andypowell74/Screen%20Shot%202016-07-29%20at%2013.17.29_zpsft1ndb18.png) (http://s577.photobucket.com/user/andypowell74/media/Screen%20Shot%202016-07-29%20at%2013.17.29_zpsft1ndb18.png.html)
As ever, it's not difficult. Straight from the brand guidelines.
Any creative studio worth its salt would get a proof or sample back for approval.
Hmmm,
Or follow this link to see how many alternatives come up when you type in Claret...
https://www.pantone.com/color-finder?q=claret
(https://www.pantone.com/color-finder?q=claret)
Or this one to see what happens if you use their colour selector thingy..
https://www.pantone.com/color-finder?q=%239A4741 (https://www.pantone.com/color-finder?q=%239A4741)
You're missing the point. There's an exact Pantone colour 229; it will have versions that are colour-matched to different types of stock, coated paper, uncoated paper etc to give a consistent best match. I'm a creative director, I know how this stuff works. And believe me, it's really not difficult – and if there's any doubt for when a job goes to the printers, factories or wherever, you simply ask for a proof to be signed off.
b b b but Villa claret isn't the same as pantone claret. Villa claret is in the eye of the beholder (provided the beholder is a Villa fan). If Tony Pantone is a Villa fan then I might listen to him. We do need clarety clarity.
Pantone claret isn't our claret. Our claret is Pantone 229.
They are two different colours.
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Who says 229 is our claret? You?
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Who says 229 is our claret? You?
It was picked out under the gas lamp
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Who says 229 is our claret? You?
The club. It's in their brand guidelines, which I have a copy of.
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Why don't we get a claret that everyone agrees is a true Villa claret then patent it? Surely to God it's easier to do that leaving it as opposed to some beardy hipster bloke deciding what shade of purple we play in.
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Why don't we get a claret that everyone agrees is a true Villa claret then patent it? Surely to God it's easier to do that leaving it as opposed to some beardy hipster bloke deciding what shade of purple we play in.
Why? Here's why:
(https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/standards.png)
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sneaky preview
(http://thumb.ibb.co/kZTfHa/mock_up.jpg) (http://ibb.co/kZTfHa)
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Premier league numbers? Are you on the cooking sherry?
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Premier league numbers? Are you on the cooking sherry?
Its the finer details that catch me out.
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Pour me a glass, there's a good chap
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So the club knows what colour the shirts should be.
So why do we get different colour shirts every year?
Can someone tweet the Doctor?
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Claret's just a weird colour I think, can never decide between red and purple. My formative Villa years were the Mita Copiers ones, where my memory tells me the claret was more a reddy claret than a purply one.
Like this
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/23/d5/7d/23d57d02665331bdc884cbb50acb00f2.jpg)
But this is a picture of the same shirt:
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/2d/84/e6/2d84e60902f67d4fd71855f6bab56feb.jpg)
It's the perfect Villa shirt: too red for the purple brigade, too purple for the red brigade 8)
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Claret's just a weird colour I think, can never decide between red and purple. My formative Villa years were the Mita Copiers ones, where my memory tells me the claret was more a reddy claret than a purply one.
Like this
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/23/d5/7d/23d57d02665331bdc884cbb50acb00f2.jpg)
But this is a picture of the same shirt:
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/2d/84/e6/2d84e60902f67d4fd71855f6bab56feb.jpg)
It's the perfect Villa shirt: too red for the purple brigade, too purple for the red brigade 8)
Its wet, its wet, oooooherrrrr.
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Admit it. You want us to be sponsored by Hooters. To be fair, so do I.
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Admit it. You want us to be sponsored by Hooters. To be fair, so do I.
Haven't we had enough tits associated with us over recent years?
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Admit it. You want us to be sponsored by Hooters. To be fair, so do I.
Haven't we had enough tits associated with us over recent years?
Yeah and some biguns at that.
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Admit it. You want us to be sponsored by Hooters. To be fair, so do I.
Haven't we had enough tits associated with us over recent years?
Yeah and some biguns at that.
And then we give them little support up top
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Guessing we'll just be launching a fleece lined kit as leave it much longer the summer to wear a football shirt will be gone
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Hi Guys,a pal who sells Villa kit in his shop told me yesterday that our new kit sponsor is Unibet ,a Japanese betting firm.Kits been released mid July
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Owned by the same company that owns 32Red.
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Guessing we'll just be launching a fleece lined kit as leave it much longer the summer to wear a football shirt will be gone
summer doesn't start until June 21st !!
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Good to see another gambling sponsor.
I'm a fan
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Good to see another gambling sponsor.
I'm a fan
Won't you think of poor Joey Barton
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And children.
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Kits to be launched July 1
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And not for sale until July 29th which seems a bit daft. Well you can pre-order them from July 1st but you know what I mean.
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pws
is that right then that launch is deff this Saturday but we cant buy until the 29th
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pws
is that correct then that the launch is deff on Saturday but we cant buy till the 29th
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Yep. From the OS
New kit
June 29 - Villa Village refurb
Our Villa Village store will be closing on June 29 as we give it a fresh new look for the summer, ready to re-open for the new kit before the new season!
There will be a satellite store opening in the Villa Village car park in July, plus you can still shop online.
July 1 - Kit reveal
As we announce our new front of shirt partner, we'll also be revealing our new home and away kits for the upcoming campaign.
Throughout July – Kit pre-order
From July 1, you'll be able to pre-order your shirt as part of a range of exclusive competitions and giveaways we'll be doing across the month with our new partner.
There'll be some great prizes and once-in-a-lifetime opportunities... so stay tuned!
July 29 - Kit released
From July 29, our new kits will be available to buy in store and pre-orders land on your doorsteps.
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There's also an interview with the new(ish) CCO and it says the same in there. The whole thing is worth a look - https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2017/06/26/the-big-interview-luke-organ
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Bugger me ive just read the bit about putting transfers onto a kit being a time consuming job
You couldnt make it up ::)
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"Our new front of shirt sponsor"
Oh dear. Are we that desperate for cash?
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"Our new front of shirt sponsor"
Oh dear. Are we that desperate for cash?
I'm not sure what you mean?
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"Our new front of shirt sponsor"
Oh dear. Are we that desperate for cash?
I'm not sure what you mean?
I'm guessing that means we're also, for the first time in our history I think, going to have a back of shirt sponsor.
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I couldn't help but laugh at the official Facebook post earlier. One of the "On This Day" posts was about signing Savo. The pic they included was of Platt scoring against Belgium!
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"Our new front of shirt sponsor"
Oh dear. Are we that desperate for cash?
I'm not sure what you mean?
I'm guessing that means we're also, for the first time in our history I think, going to have a back of shirt sponsor.
It sounds to me like it says, a shirt sponsor on the front, as normal.
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It's either twat talk like 'blue sky thinking' etc, or it does mean a back sponsor. Otherwise they'd just say 'shirt sponsor' like they have done for decades.
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There's also an interview with the new(ish) CCO and it says the same in there. The whole thing is worth a look - https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2017/06/26/the-big-interview-luke-organ
The whole thing screams to me that we're going to have music when a goal is scored, 'initiatives' to improve the atmosphere (plastic clappers), being spammed with pointless emails and that Paul Brown needs to check his spelling and grammar before he posts interviews.
But then again, I might just be a miserable bastard.
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It's either twat talk like 'blue sky thinking' etc, or it does mean a back sponsor. Otherwise they'd just say 'shirt sponsor' like they have done for decades.
It's worth remembering he's from a rugby club where more sponsors are common so it's very possible that it's just a hangover from there.
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did any team last season in the Championship have a back sponsor? I think he just meant sponsor
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I think most of the teams did.
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I don't bet, but I'd wager that the iFollow substitute we're cooking up won't be ready on time, judging from his comments.
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It's either twat talk like 'blue sky thinking' etc, or it does mean a back sponsor. Otherwise they'd just say 'shirt sponsor' like they have done for decades.
Sounds like corporate bs to me. Couldn't just say reveal our sponsor but then I guess we've got quite a few sponsors - you only have to look at the bottom of the site. If that's the case it would have been better wording it as 'shirt sponsor'.
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Yet another underwhelming announcement from our club. We're having that dish oft referred to by parents of "wait and see" so from Dr Tony, Keith Wyness, Steve Round , Steve Bruce and now someone with the very unfortunate surname of
Organ plying his trade for us we are definitely having that dish next season and I hope it turns out to be tasty . This is alreay looking like a season of hope over expectation.
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It's either twat talk like 'blue sky thinking' etc, or it does mean a back sponsor. Otherwise they'd just say 'shirt sponsor' like they have done for decades.
Sounds like corporate bs to me. Couldn't just say reveal our sponsor but then I guess we've got quite a few sponsors - you only have to look at the bottom of the site. If that's the case it would have been better wording it as 'shirt sponsor'.
I read it again and it is what he said it is. That partners/sponsors whatever you want to call them for other areas of the club are in place or will be, and the kit launch delay is down to finalizing the sponsor that goes on the front of the kit. That's really all.
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I reckon you need to give the chap a break. From where he has come from and what he has achieved, I reckon he knows what he is doing when it comes to the commercial side of sport.
Lotus F1 and Wasps are no were not easy jobs and by all accounts have been very successful.
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Beginnings of a chant for New Kit Reveal Day Sponsor Announcement Event Launch
The tills are ringing for claret and blue
The kit is minging, Not claret and blue
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I reckon you need to give the chap a break. From where he has come from and what he has achieved, I reckon he knows what he is doing when it comes to the commercial side of sport.
Lotus F1 and Wasps are no were not easy jobs and by all accounts have been very successful.
I agree.
Add to that the absolute mess most of our back office operation has been fr a long time and you can see things moving in the right direction. These things take time unfortunately but this guy has a pretty damn good CV all things considered.
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I don't bet, but I'd wager that the iFollow substitute we're cooking up won't be ready on time, judging from his comments.
I was more concerned he never mentioned that we wouldn't take the EFL template as we would only be in the Championship until May 2018. If last season is anything to go by I'm in no rush to watch the games.
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I saw it as an explanation as to what the new guy is planning behind the scenes. It was interesting enough and something they didn't have to do.
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Just read the interview with the Commercial Officer, couldn't find a thing to fault, seems a very bright guy with his finger on the pulse.
I sincerely hope the playing recruitment & coaching this summer is bang on & come 12 months time we are back on Premiership fixture list because I like what I've heard from Wyness etc also and would really like to see 2/3/4 years stability to see if they can build a future for the club.
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Whatever happens the home kit will not be the right claret/blue, the socks should have thinner/wider hoops, the shorts are too baggy/tight, the sponsor does not reflect our heritage and is not Acorns, the away kit is not white/black/yellow/blue/green and why is John Terry wearing a Chelsea kit under his new Villa shirt?
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Whatever happens the home kit will not be the right claret/blue, the socks should have thinner/wider hoops, the shorts are too baggy/tight, the sponsor does not reflect our heritage and is not Acorns, the away kit is not white/black/yellow/blue/green and why is John Terry wearing a Chelsea kit under his new Villa shirt?
This. Xia out!!!
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Looks alright.
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Away shirt very nice. Home shirt meh.
Seen much worse, though
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Away shirt looks more like a training t-shirt, sponsor logo isn't the worst, although we do look like the lottery results now.
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It's the traditional design for the home kit, they can do what they like with the away one but so long as its the traditional design for the home kit I'm ok with it.
#nostripesever
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The away shirt is an appalling mess.
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Claret socks for the home kit.
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Away is very nice.
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Unibet is our new shirt sponsor, apparently.
I like both home and away kits this year, and I haven't said that for a while.
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Home is best for years
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I reckon you need to give the chap a break. From where he has come from and what he has achieved, I reckon he knows what he is doing when it comes to the commercial side of sport.
Lotus F1 and Wasps are no were not easy jobs and by all accounts have been very successful.
I agree.
Add to that the absolute mess most of our back office operation has been fr a long time and you can see things moving in the right direction. These things take time unfortunately but this guy has a pretty damn good CV all things considered.
im not falling into that trap again. Tom Fox came in from a successful club and I bought all his bollocks he talked when he came in. Look how that turned out! Good luck Mr Organ, you'll sure enough need it.
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I really don't like either of them. Never mind.
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I really don't like either of them. Never mind.
I know what you mean. I quite liked last season's, especially the collar and button.
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Dont mind them, quite like claret socks
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Not a fan of claret socks, home just looks really cheap and the away kit looks like a Marks and Spencers summer t shirt with a badge and sponsor on it. At least the home is traditional though and not stripes or halves. Last season's much better though. Even the macron designs were nice even if the actual materials were cack.
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Easily the best away kit I've seen around- nice material too.
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Not a fan of claret socks, home just looks really cheap and the away kit looks like a Marks and Spencers summer t shirt with a badge and sponsor on it.
I was trying to put my finger on it, I think you've done it. It does look like a M&S/Next T shirt.
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They say that vertical stripes make you look a stone lighter. McCormack and Gabby will love the away strip. McCormack will probably wear his around the house. Searching for his tool box.
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Cheap pyjamas you used to find in Hyper Value...bought for you as a kid by Aunty Tight-tits.
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Both kits look excellent.
Still, I'd ask anyone that doesn't glory in the slaughter of innocent animals not to buy either.
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£55 is steep for jim jams.
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OS
The away jersey, launched by James Chester, Rushian Hepburn-Murphy and Albert Adomah, features a return of a crisp and smart-looking black kit celebrating a unique mosaic tiled design.
The design of this jersey takes inspiration from surrounding areas of iconic Villa Park.
???
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I like them both.
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I like them both (they could be improved with collars)
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I reckon you need to give the chap a break. From where he has come from and what he has achieved, I reckon he knows what he is doing when it comes to the commercial side of sport.
Lotus F1 and Wasps are no were not easy jobs and by all accounts have been very successful.
I agree.
Add to that the absolute mess most of our back office operation has been fr a long time and you can see things moving in the right direction. These things take time unfortunately but this guy has a pretty damn good CV all things considered.
im not falling into that trap again. Tom Fox came in from a successful club and I bought all his bollocks he talked when he came in. Look how that turned out! Good luck Mr Organ, you'll sure enough need it.
Tom Fox was a money man brought in to run the entire operation. This bloke is a money man brought in to run the money side. That's the difference.
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There surely has to be another away shirt. That doesn't offer much contrast to the home shirt (which seems OK to me).
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I reckon you need to give the chap a break. From where he has come from and what he has achieved, I reckon he knows what he is doing when it comes to the commercial side of sport.
Lotus F1 and Wasps are no were not easy jobs and by all accounts have been very successful.
I agree.
Add to that the absolute mess most of our back office operation has been fr a long time and you can see things moving in the right direction. These things take time unfortunately but this guy has a pretty damn good CV all things considered.
im not falling into that trap again. Tom Fox came in from a successful club and I bought all his bollocks he talked when he came in. Look how that turned out! Good luck Mr Organ, you'll sure enough need it.
Tom Fox was a money man brought in to run the entire operation. This bloke is a money man brought in to run the money side. That's the difference.
Fox made his career in marketing.
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I reckon you need to give the chap a break. From where he has come from and what he has achieved, I reckon he knows what he is doing when it comes to the commercial side of sport.
Lotus F1 and Wasps are no were not easy jobs and by all accounts have been very successful.
I agree.
Add to that the absolute mess most of our back office operation has been fr a long time and you can see things moving in the right direction. These things take time unfortunately but this guy has a pretty damn good CV all things considered.
im not falling into that trap again. Tom Fox came in from a successful club and I bought all his bollocks he talked when he came in. Look how that turned out! Good luck Mr Organ, you'll sure enough need it.
Tom Fox was a money man brought in to run the entire operation. This bloke is a money man brought in to run the money side. That's the difference.
Like I said, good luck to the man. Hope he does well.
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Subsitute the white for black and that would make a decent kit too.
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Whatever happens the home kit will not be the right claret/blue, the socks should have thinner/wider hoops, the shorts are too baggy/tight, the sponsor does not reflect our heritage and is not Acorns, the away kit is not white/black/yellow/blue/green and why is John Terry wearing a Chelsea kit under his new Villa shirt?
I was right :)
Absolutely awful - We play in claret and blue not pink !!
I just wished our kit providers looked at the Burnley kit - now that is Claret and blue
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It's been a long time since I cared about our new kit, i'm just happy to see a couple of our young lads model the kit and not Richards and Gabby.
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The home shirt's not too bad.. I like the away one a lot though
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It's been a long time since I cared about our new kit, i'm just happy to see a couple of our young lads model the kit and not Richards and Gabby.
great point - I agree with the sentiment about the young lads and Richards and Gabby
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Home - Fairly shit
Away - Mediocre
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The sponsor is far too imposing, as PWS said they look like bloody lotto balls.
Maybe they heard about BE's thread in Off-Topic bragging about his imminent €100m winning ticket.
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The lions printed in the background must be a nod to the 1995-97 home kit (the last time we kept the same home shirt for more than a season). Oh for a couple of years like that.
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Not keen on either shirt to be honest, Puma seem to have got Burnleys spot on as have Umbro with Wet Spam.
However just looked online and I do like the training colours.
Personal choice
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Unibet are offering various specials on us now that they are our sponsor.
Enhanced odds for us to win the league if anyone thinks we will actually do that!
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Like them both. Will definitely be buying them in the £10 end of season sale.
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I like them. Home is simple; away different.
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The sponsor is far too imposing, as PWS said they look like bloody lotto balls.
To be fair to Unibet, they're supposed to.
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Trying to find more images of the kits but the OS appears to be down?
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The site is down but the online shop is working...
http://m.shop.avfc.co.uk/stores/astonvilla/mobile/en/c/football-kits/home-kit
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quite like them - i will get the lad one in the sale next summer
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If you go the store and click on the home kit , you will see the banner at the top of the screen with villa store written on it , which is the claret it should be and if you look at that colour and the shirt colour , put the colours next to each other , you can tell they have the claret wrong and its so much lighter ( pinky purple )
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The lions printed in the background must be a nod to the 1995-97 home kit (the last time we kept the same home shirt for more than a season). Oh for a couple of years like that.
I loved that shirt, but the photos for this new one, with the lions, make it look like the sort of curtains you'd see in stately homes, especially with the slight royal purple hint.
Flat screen monitors are not the best for viewing true colours though. The masthead on the Villa website looks proper purple in sRGB, but if I switch my mode to "Photo" it looks more like the colour on my 1981 retro shirt.
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I like them. Home is simple; away different.
Same for me.
No issues with them.
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Compared to QuickBooks, the sponsor is relatively unimposing.
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Do they do them in claret and blue? I actually like the fairly simple designs (although don't like claret socks) but colours still not right in my view. They seem to have changed the shade of claret on the club shop website to the same shade of purple as the shirts. Working from a rogue template by the looks of it.
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Do they do them in claret and blue? I actually like the fairly simple designs (although don't like claret socks) but colours still not right in my view. They seem to have changed the shade of claret on the club shop website to the same shade of purple as the shirts. Working from a rogue template by the looks of it.
So with you on this one. Agree with each point. Burnley don't appear to have problems with the colour but we do. Agree about the socks as well.
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They create the colours based on guidelines. Is it possible that we in our heads have a claret and blue we prefer, one which resonates with us by way of a great team, or period of time or a kit we all loved that had a colour we associate with as the club colours? But in actuality those we wrong base on the club guidelines.
I'm having a hard time believing professional design firms fuck up the colours year after year given the process it would undergo for approval. It would be quite stringent I imagine. Maybe the club just needs modify the standards.
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Club Shop is shut for refurb but the kiosk is in the car park. My lad bought the new training top today. Light grey with the mint colour detail. Quite nice. They have the new training gear in stock. Kits available 29th July
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They create the colours based on guidelines. Is it possible that we in our heads have a claret and blue we prefer, one which resonates with us by way of a great team, or period of time or a kit we all loved that had a colour we associate with as the club colours? But in actuality those we wrong base on the club guidelines.
I'm having a hard time believing professional design firms fuck up the colours year after year given the process it would undergo for approval. It would be quite stringent I imagine. Maybe the club just needs modify the standards.
Well-said, probably near the mark of a likely explanation.
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They create the colours based on guidelines. Is it possible that we in our heads have a claret and blue we prefer, one which resonates with us by way of a great team, or period of time or a kit we all loved that had a colour we associate with as the club colours? But in actuality those we wrong base on the club guidelines.
I'm having a hard time believing professional design firms fuck up the colours year after year given the process it would undergo for approval. It would be quite stringent I imagine. Maybe the club just needs modify the standards.
I don't think so. Apart form a couple of dodgy ones in the late 90s or early noughties I think the shirt colours have been reasonably consistent from the time I started watching in the mid 60s right up until Macron entered the scene at which point, for some unknown reason, things took a turn for the purple, combined with a very wishy washy shade of blue. Under Armour seemed to have followed suit, although this year's look a little better than last. Nike didn't have a problem with the colours, and you only have to look at the array of 60s, 70s, and 80s retro shirts in the club shop to see that they are all fairly similar in colour, and very different to the Macron and UA efforts. I don't know if it's the manufacturers doing or if someone in the club gave them a template in these shades, but whatever it is it doesn't match what went before for most of the previous 45 years. It's not the end of the world it's just an annoyance, but I won't ever buy one in these colours.
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It's the same every year..
I don't like the colour
I don't like the design
I don't like the away kit
I don't like the sponsor
I don't like the badge
If you like it buy it. If you don't then don't buy it.
It's a kit they wear it Match day as long as they win games they can wear a bin bag for all I care
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The majority seem to be saying they like it.
Don't we normally have a poll?
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Sorry I've been on Twitter
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I am gutted because I really like both of them, especially the away one, but am boycotting due to the Under Armour trophy hunting issue. I could have even had one sent to me free as part of the kit launch promotion and turned it down!
What a season this is going to be - not only having a kit made by people who support killing animals for fun, but putting a known racist in one of them. Yay!
Of course many sports kit manufacturers have some issue with ethics, but I am now of the mind that I would like us to think a little harder about this.
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All I will say on the annual kit launch bun fight is that had tinternet been around back in 1993, this site would be in meltdown over the green/black eyesore that people now hold up as some kind of iconic strip. It'll be in the bargain bin like all the others in 11 months' time.
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I like the kits. The away one looks badass. The Sponsors logo looks lame but whatever. We have had worse.
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Do we know how much the deal is worth and, this payment, does it count towards FFP and our potential transfer budget?
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Like the away one- is it based on the mosaic on the holte with the claret stripe across it?
Not a fan of the home shirt. Fkn too many lions everywhere. What about some unicorns? Some trophies would be nice next season too, but unicorns more realistic.
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Will we be releasing Savo bandanas to relive the summer of '95?
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It's the same every year..
I don't like the colour
I don't like the design
I don't like the away kit
I don't like the sponsor
I don't like the badge
If you like it buy it. If you don't then don't buy it.
It's a kit they wear it Match day as long as they win games they can wear a bin bag for all I care
I know what you mean however sponsor, away kit and to an extent design are transitory and relatively unimportant. But our colours and badges are more a matter of history and tradition, they are symbolic of the club. I'll admit that I don't really care that much about the badge, although I do prefer the pre-70s or 70s versions to what we have now. I certainly don't give a toss whether the shirt has a collar or not, or what the sponsor logo looks like, and the away strip can be purple with orange spots for all I care. But I do like to see a traditional claret body / light blue sleeves for the home kit. I just think us wearing purple is the equivalent of ManYoo or the 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' edging their home strip towards pink or maroon.
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Picture of Terry shows Recon on the back of the kit. So maybe there is a back shirt sponsor.
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Picture of Terry shows Recon on the back of the kit. So maybe there is a back shirt sponsor.
Uh-oh. That's proper Championship, that is.
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Picture of Terry shows Recon on the back of the kit. So maybe there is a back shirt sponsor.
Uh-oh. That's proper Championship, that is.
We just need to fucking get out of this tin pot division. They put sponsors on the back of the kits yet is one of the worst marketed leagues in the world. Especially given the money associated with promotion. If they had better coverage domestically and internationally they wouldn't have to do naff things like back sponsors.
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Picture of Terry shows Recon on the back of the kit. So maybe there is a back shirt sponsor.
Uh-oh. That's proper Championship, that is.
We just need to fucking get out of this tin pot division. They put sponsors on the back of the kits yet is one of the worst marketed leagues in the world. Especially given the money associated with promotion. If they had better coverage domestically and internationally they wouldn't have to do naff things like back sponsors.
This "worst marketed league" is the fifth richest in Europe.
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I'd imagine the Premier League would love to have top flight kits plastered in sponsors. The biggest of the lot, Brand FC of Salford would be there at the forefront with their official Noodle partner under Rooney's chin.
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Yanited would have the kit looking like a French cyclist's ensemble, given half a chance.
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Picture of Terry shows Recon on the back of the kit. So maybe there is a back shirt sponsor.
Uh-oh. That's proper Championship, that is.
We just need to fucking get out of this tin pot division. They put sponsors on the back of the kits yet is one of the worst marketed leagues in the world. Especially given the money associated with promotion. If they had better coverage domestically and internationally they wouldn't have to do naff things like back sponsors.
This "worst marketed league" is the fifth richest in Europe.
And it could be so much more. Look how hard it was to even find coverage of games last season. By radio let alone TV. No real coverage for fans abroad. It reminds of pre-PL days in the First Division. The Premier League, for all of the things some fans don't like about it expanded the game enormously. Obviously I'm not suggesting the Championship could do the same simply because it isn't the top league in the country but it could do a lot more to broaden its appeal.
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Which second-tier in any country has any sort of broad appeal though?
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The one we are in.
The Championship is easily the biggest second tier in the World. Respectfully, I'm not sure what TV is on about in this instance.
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The one we are in.
The Championship is easily the biggest second tier in the World. Respectfully, I'm not sure what TV is on about in this instance.
What I'm on about is that it has the potential given how big the PL prize is to make itself more accessible. I made this point above that look how hard it was to find games to follow last season, even by radio. In 2017 it should not be that hard and when it is people disengage. The Football League management should be doing more to make the games easier to see much like the PL has done.
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The one we are in.
The Championship is easily the biggest second tier in the World. Respectfully, I'm not sure what TV is on about in this instance.
What I'm on about is that it has the potential given how big the PL prize is to make itself more accessible. I made this point above that look how hard it was to find games to follow last season, even by radio. In 2017 it should not be that hard and when it is people disengage. The Football League management should be doing more to make the games easier to see much like the PL has done.
I doubt there's anything they haven't tried but I'm sure they'd welcome your input.
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The one we are in.
The Championship is easily the biggest second tier in the World. Respectfully, I'm not sure what TV is on about in this instance.
What I'm on about is that it has the potential given how big the PL prize is to make itself more accessible. I made this point above that look how hard it was to find games to follow last season, even by radio. In 2017 it should not be that hard and when it is people disengage. The Football League management should be doing more to make the games easier to see much like the PL has done.
I doubt there's anything they haven't tried but I'm sure they'd welcome your input.
When many fans are watching through grainy internet streams, catching the Norwich or Blues games through fans cell phones I'm sure there's lots they can still try to do to make the games more accessible. Do you think that's acceptable? If they want to grow the league then find ways to allow more people to experience it. I live in Canada. There's lots of fans of teams not in the PL. We'd like to watch them too. And when we are able to get games others are in bars watching too who get exposed to it.
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The one we are in.
The Championship is easily the biggest second tier in the World. Respectfully, I'm not sure what TV is on about in this instance.
What I'm on about is that it has the potential given how big the PL prize is to make itself more accessible. I made this point above that look how hard it was to find games to follow last season, even by radio. In 2017 it should not be that hard and when it is people disengage. The Football League management should be doing more to make the games easier to see much like the PL has done.
I doubt there's anything they haven't tried but I'm sure they'd welcome your input.
When many fans are watching through grainy internet streams, catching the Norwich or Blues games through fans cell phones I'm sure there's lots they can still try to do to make the games more accessible. Do you think that's acceptable? If they want to grow the league then find ways to allow more people to experience it. I live in Canada. There's lots of fans of teams not in the PL. We'd like to watch them too. And when we are able to get games others are in bars watching too who get exposed to it.
Gosh. I bet they've never thought of that.
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The one we are in.
The Championship is easily the biggest second tier in the World. Respectfully, I'm not sure what TV is on about in this instance.
What I'm on about is that it has the potential given how big the PL prize is to make itself more accessible. I made this point above that look how hard it was to find games to follow last season, even by radio. In 2017 it should not be that hard and when it is people disengage. The Football League management should be doing more to make the games easier to see much like the PL has done.
I doubt there's anything they haven't tried but I'm sure they'd welcome your input.
When many fans are watching through grainy internet streams, catching the Norwich or Blues games through fans cell phones I'm sure there's lots they can still try to do to make the games more accessible. Do you think that's acceptable? If they want to grow the league then find ways to allow more people to experience it. I live in Canada. There's lots of fans of teams not in the PL. We'd like to watch them too. And when we are able to get games others are in bars watching too who get exposed to it.
Gosh. I bet they've never thought of that.
So instead of having a sensible discussion you decide to be sarcastic. That's mature. Of all of the people on here you are most closely tied to the inner workings of the game. So instead of offering your knowledge you resort to offering childish responses. Have I really offered up anything that outrageous that games in this division should be better marketed or broadcasted? Why don't you enlighten me as to all of things they have done.
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The one we are in.
The Championship is easily the biggest second tier in the World. Respectfully, I'm not sure what TV is on about in this instance.
What I'm on about is that it has the potential given how big the PL prize is to make itself more accessible. I made this point above that look how hard it was to find games to follow last season, even by radio. In 2017 it should not be that hard and when it is people disengage. The Football League management should be doing more to make the games easier to see much like the PL has done.
To be fair to them, isn't the Football League setting up an internet channel this year for people outside the UK to watch matches?
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Alternatively, you could just attend VP.
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Not having much dealings with the Football League's marketing department I can't really help you there. However, I would guess that they spend a decent amount on pushing what they have, explore all avenues and generally do as well with their product as the Premier League do with theirs. It's a bit daft, or naive if you prefer, to say that there's something they could do and haven't. Do you honestly think they don't sell games just because they can't be bothered, or that you've come up with something unique and previously unthought of? Because that IS childish.
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The one we are in.
The Championship is easily the biggest second tier in the World. Respectfully, I'm not sure what TV is on about in this instance.
What I'm on about is that it has the potential given how big the PL prize is to make itself more accessible. I made this point above that look how hard it was to find games to follow last season, even by radio. In 2017 it should not be that hard and when it is people disengage. The Football League management should be doing more to make the games easier to see much like the PL has done.
To be fair to them, isn't the Football League setting up an internet channel this year for people outside the UK to watch matches?
I thought they were too which is great and much needed. I didn't think we were going to be a part of that though and were going to set up our thing through AVTV. Not sure what happened with that. But it would be a good thing overall if that happened with the Football League.
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Not having much dealings with the Football League's marketing department I can't really help you there. However, I would guess that they spend a decent amount on pushing what they have, explore all avenues and generally do as well with their product as the Premier League do with theirs. It's a bit daft, or naive if you prefer, to say that there's something they could do and haven't. Do you honestly think they don't sell games just because they can't be bothered, or that you've come up with something unique and previously unthought of? Because that IS childish.
I don't think it's unreasonable in the world of live streaming on Facebook and the like for overseas fans to expect a bit more opportunity to see Championship teams play.
To use your word, as much as it's naive to think that there are easy things the Football League could do and just haven't it's equally naive to think that in a word where technology seems to be changing by the day that the Football League (an organisation renowned for it's traditional attitude towards life) have fully embraced, assessed and delivered all the potential opportunities changes in technology brings.
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Alternatively, you could just attend VP.
Well done, a valuable contribution to the argument.
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It is, easily, the best-supported and most well known second tier on the planet.
I imagine Villa followers in Canada have far more opportunity to see their team than fans of Ingolstadt, Avellino, Queen of the South or Alcorcon do.
It's a second tier. That's why it doesn't have a higher profile. Considering that, they do pretty well.
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Not having much dealings with the Football League's marketing department I can't really help you there. However, I would guess that they spend a decent amount on pushing what they have, explore all avenues and generally do as well with their product as the Premier League do with theirs. It's a bit daft, or naive if you prefer, to say that there's something they could do and haven't. Do you honestly think they don't sell games just because they can't be bothered, or that you've come up with something unique and previously unthought of? Because that IS childish.
I don't think it's unreasonable in the world of live streaming on Facebook and the like for overseas fans to expect a bit more opportunity to see Championship teams play.
To use your word, as much as it's naive to think that there are easy things the Football League could do and just haven't it's equally naive to think that in a word where technology seems to be changing by the day that the Football League (an organisation renowned for it's traditional attitude towards life) have fully embraced, assessed and delivered all the potential opportunities changes in technology brings.
Which is precisely what I'm saying. The Football League got left behind when the PL emerged. They need to be more forward thinking to stay in touch with new, younger fans or those fans end up supporting the obvious clubs in the PL.
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Back to the kit. I noticed on Terry's interview with AVTV the kit actually looked claret!
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It is, easily, the best-supported and most well known second tier on the planet.
I imagine Villa followers in Canada have far more opportunity to see their team than fans of Ingolstadt, Avellino, Queen of the South or Alcorcon do.
It's a second tier. That's why it doesn't have a higher profile. Considering that, they do pretty well.
Is it? I live in the Canada, have done for 20 years and am about to move to a Chicago. I travel across North American frequently. Most fans struggle when I say I support Aston Villa let alone know what league we are in. Games are very hard to come by. Only a handful were broadcast on Bein Sports last year. And there were countless mornings I followed the game via radio, shitty streams and in some cases not at all.
So I accept that almost in spite of themselves and due to lack of investment in other second tiers they are known, but I would hardly go as far as to say well known outside of the UK and some parts of Europe.
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If I was in the Football League marketing department, I'd be pretty pee'd off with Channel 5's coverage, it's dire at best.
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It is, easily, the best-supported and most well known second tier on the planet.
I imagine Villa followers in Canada have far more opportunity to see their team than fans of Ingolstadt, Avellino, Queen of the South or Alcorcon do.
It's a second tier. That's why it doesn't have a higher profile. Considering that, they do pretty well.
Is it? I live in the Canada, have done for 20 years and am about to move to a Chicago. I travel across North American frequently. Most fans struggle when I say I support Aston Villa let alone know what league we are in. Games are very hard to come by. Only a handful were broadcast on Bein Sports last year. And there were countless mornings I followed the game via radio, shitty streams and in some cases not at all.
So I accept that almost in spite of themselves and due to lack of investment in other second tiers they are known, but I would hardly go as far as to say well known outside of the UK and some parts of Europe.
I'd guess that's more the fault of Canadians? If you don't know who Aston Villa are, you're not very interested in football. It's an ice hockey country, innit?
How many French Second Division games were you able to watch last season?
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If I was in the Football League marketing department, I'd be pretty pee'd off with Channel 5's coverage, it's dire at best.
I can agree with that. They should get rid of the talking; have a ninety minute Championship show at nine and a ninety minutes League One/Two show at half ten.
I do like Lynsey Hipgrave though.
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How many French Second Division games were you able to watch last season?
If being more popular than French football is the height of your ambition you're in the wrong job.
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It's more popular than any second tier. It's not as popular as many of the top tiers. I'm not sure what's wrong with that.
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Which is precisely what I'm saying. The Football League got left behind when the PL emerged. They need to be more forward thinking to stay in touch with new, younger fans or those fans end up supporting the obvious clubs in the PL.
They got left behind because of the PL coming into being (I am maybe reading too much into the choice of the word but 'emerged' suggests a natural evolution into a state of being, whereas what actually happened was that 20 clubs decided to take way more of the money than they were used to getting).
If the second tier in this country is the fifth biggest league in the world (or whatever that figure is), then they're clearly doing something right.
It's also worth remembering that for every Villa v Leeds or Sunderland v Sheffield Wednesday, there are an awful lot of Burton v Small Heaths that nobody outside a few thousand people gives a fuck about.
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Don't read too much into the word emerged. It's more that whatever the plan was it was executed and clubs broke away from the Football League.
And I'm not saying it's all bad. But being in it shows how much more could be done. Like I said if in 2017 I as a fan of the game and of a team in the league finds it difficult to see them on a regular basis, despite the wealth of technology/social media/internet access etc available then there's much room for improvement.
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I assume that with whatever is the Canadian equivalent of a Kodi Box, you can get all our games on Sky, and our occasional cup games on other channels.
You can't expect to get games that aren't being televised... anywhere.
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I assume that with whatever is the Canadian equivalent of a Kodi Box, you can get all our games on Sky, and our occasional cup games on other channels.
You can't expect to get games that aren't being televised... anywhere.
Except the Villa film and broadcast every single match inside Villa Park. It can't be beyond the wit of man to work out a way to stick that steam on the internet for overseas fans to pay to watch. If Sky aren't showing it they shouldn't give a fuck and AVTV demonstrated the technical capability years ago.
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I'd imagine there may be rights issues. Are other clubs doing so?
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I assume that with whatever is the Canadian equivalent of a Kodi Box, you can get all our games on Sky, and our occasional cup games on other channels.
You can't expect to get games that aren't being televised... anywhere.
Except the Villa film and broadcast every single match inside Villa Park. It can't be beyond the wit of man to work out a way to stick that steam on the internet for overseas fans to pay to watch. If Sky aren't showing it they shouldn't give a fuck and AVTV demonstrated the technical capability years ago.
I can see the problem right away. They pay a fortune for the rights - they get exclusivity. If they aren't showing it, they ain't gonna let anyone else show it.
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I'd imagine there may be rights issues. Are other clubs doing so?
Maybe there are. There must be a reason but I'll be buggered if I know what it is. Like I say, if Sky pay for a certain number games and then get to pick them why should they either care or get a say in what happens to the others?
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I assume that with whatever is the Canadian equivalent of a Kodi Box, you can get all our games on Sky, and our occasional cup games on other channels.
You can't expect to get games that aren't being televised... anywhere.
Except the Villa film and broadcast every single match inside Villa Park. It can't be beyond the wit of man to work out a way to stick that steam on the internet for overseas fans to pay to watch. If Sky aren't showing it they shouldn't give a fuck and AVTV demonstrated the technical capability years ago.
And if the option existed to buy an overseas season ticket I'd be delighted, as would many others who live abroad. Or even domestically to provide better match day coverage to domestic fans. Not everyone can get to Villa Park and even fewer to away games.
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I assume that with whatever is the Canadian equivalent of a Kodi Box, you can get all our games on Sky, and our occasional cup games on other channels.
You can't expect to get games that aren't being televised... anywhere.
Except the Villa film and broadcast every single match inside Villa Park. It can't be beyond the wit of man to work out a way to stick that steam on the internet for overseas fans to pay to watch. If Sky aren't showing it they shouldn't give a fuck and AVTV demonstrated the technical capability years ago.
I can see the problem right away. They pay a fortune for the rights - they get exclusivity. If they aren't showing it, they ain't gonna let anyone else show it.
Who says they've got exclusivity? And in any event, haven't they bought the UK broadcast rights?
Maybe this is the sort of thing TV was on about - the Premier League are a canny bunch and worked out how you segment the packages to make the best use of them. Maybe that's where the Football League are going wrong. Football didn't fundamentally change in 1992 - how it was marketed did.
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That's where my point started Ad@m. Instead of having to put two sponsors on a kit to drive revenue which is predominantly seen by domestic audiences, and mainly those at the game, if they could expand their reach domestically and globally the revenues would be that much bigger benefitting the entire league structure. I have no doubt there are complications with regard to broadcasting distribution but there are so many more ways to market the game that there must be way beyond how they are doing it today. It all feels very amateur and clumsy at times, and yet in spite of that the league itself does well. My point all along has been it could do so much better.
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2nd Div games are often played at the same time as PL games has something to do with it.
The fact is that Sky FA Pl are going to want to controll any potential competition and keeping other English football in its place suits that agenda.
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Presumably whoever broadcasts the Championship in Canada has other sporting events on during the rest of the day, and wouldn't be keen to have their viewing audience diluted by people going off to watch matches online. They'll have paid for exclusivity, partly so noone else can show the games in Canada, partly so nobody can show it during their other broadcasts.
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I'd imagine there may be rights issues. Are other clubs doing so?
Maybe there are. There must be a reason but I'll be buggered if I know what it is. Like I say, if Sky pay for a certain number games and then get to pick them why should they either care or get a say in what happens to the others?
Because it impacts the value of the fixtures they do pay for.
Isn't that obvious?
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I'd imagine there may be rights issues. Are other clubs doing so?
Maybe there are. There must be a reason but I'll be buggered if I know what it is. Like I say, if Sky pay for a certain number games and then get to pick them why should they either care or get a say in what happens to the others?
They definitely care about PL games not selected as the live option that weekend being watched via alternative methods, so I can't see them going easier on the Championship.
Sorta connected, but I'm sure I read recently that subscriptions are down this year. Meaning they are looking at ways to repackage Sky Sports 1, 2 and 3 et.c. Maybe Kodi is starting to bite and the next TV deal won't be so ludicrous. A slight change in income could see some of those sides with ropey attendances really hit the skids.
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Presumably whoever broadcasts the Championship in Canada has other sporting events on during the rest of the day, and wouldn't be keen to have their viewing audience diluted by people going off to watch matches online. They'll have paid for exclusivity, partly so noone else can show the games in Canada, partly so nobody can show it during their other broadcasts.
The games at 3pm are on between 7am and 11am depending on where you are in the country. I think it's safe to say domestic sports aren't being played at that time anywhere in North America.
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Other sporting events could be the Premier League or any other football match from Europe.
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I'd imagine there may be rights issues. Are other clubs doing so?
Maybe there are. There must be a reason but I'll be buggered if I know what it is. Like I say, if Sky pay for a certain number games and then get to pick them why should they either care or get a say in what happens to the others?
Because it impacts the value of the fixtures they do pay for.
Isn't that obvious?
Well let's take a look at what happened with Premier League rights.
From 1992 to 2007 Sky has exclusivity in the UK and the last exclusive deal they signed cost £2.47m per game. From 2007 it was shared with Setanta and the cost was £4.12m per game. The deal with BT which expired last year cost £6.53m per game.
Now whilst this doesn't prove anything it also doesn't support the theory that by removing exclusivity you reduce the value to the broadcasters.
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Anyway.
Any one else think the training kit colours are exactly the same as the Mercedes Petronas F1 team?
Grey with a turquoise accent line. Useful if you need to look good whilst changing a tyre.
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Without really wanting to drag this back off-topic. The Championship will have three times as many games on TV from 2019/20, rising from 112 this season to 324 matches.
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£100 for something that is "royal magenta"
http://shop.avfc.co.uk/stores/astonvilla/en/product/aston-villa-stadium-jacket---royal-magenta/208877
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Why can I only see prices on the shop site in dollars?
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Without really wanting to drag this back off-topic. The Championship will have three times as many games on TV from 2019/20, rising from 112 this season to 324 matches.
We need to get the fuck out of this league. In an upward direction, please.
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£100 for something that is "royal magenta"
http://shop.avfc.co.uk/stores/astonvilla/en/product/aston-villa-stadium-jacket---royal-magenta/208877
'Ow much!!!
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It's all pants!
http://shop.avfc.co.uk/stores/astonvilla/en/c/training/mens-training/pants
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£100 for something that is "royal magenta"
http://shop.avfc.co.uk/stores/astonvilla/en/product/aston-villa-stadium-jacket---royal-magenta/208877
I'd look lovely standing next to a slaughtered rhino in that.
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£100 for something that is "royal magenta"
http://shop.avfc.co.uk/stores/astonvilla/en/product/aston-villa-stadium-jacket---royal-magenta/208877
This has really pissed me off.
It's shit like this that makes the club a 'brand', match day an 'experience' and fans 'clients'.
Is it too much trouble for the club to refer to its own colours as claret and blue!
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Magenta is a royal mail stamp colour, not an Aston Villa colour.
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£100 for something that is "royal magenta"
http://shop.avfc.co.uk/stores/astonvilla/en/product/aston-villa-stadium-jacket---royal-magenta/208877
I'd look lovely standing next to a slaughtered rhino in that.
This could finally be a new chant:
"Stephen Roger Bruce's Royal Magenta and Maya Blue rhino slaughtering army"
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Magenta is a royal mail stamp colour, not an Aston Villa colour.
It looks like they have decided that our colours are Royal Magenta, so it is no surprise that when people say that shirt is not Claret, they are right it isn't. It's a Royal Fuckin Magenta.
It is a disgrace.
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We seem to have change home socks that are a strange turquoise / green colour. Odd socks.
http://shop.avfc.co.uk/stores/astonvilla/en/c/football-kits/home-kit
And short sleeved goalie tops... Is that standard now?
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£100 for something that is "royal magenta"
http://shop.avfc.co.uk/stores/astonvilla/en/product/aston-villa-stadium-jacket---royal-magenta/208877
This has really pissed me off.
It's shit like this that makes the club a 'brand', match day an 'experience' and fans 'clients'.
Is it too much trouble for the club to refer to its own colours as claret and blue!
It's the only item that is described as Royal Magenta so maybe it's just a slightly different colour. Everything else has claret in the description from what I can tell. Not saying it's not a bit odd though.
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[/quote]£100 for something that is "royal magenta"
http://shop.avfc.co.uk/stores/astonvilla/en/product/aston-villa-stadium-jacket---royal-magenta/208877
They had a similar training jacket last year for £100, which they soon reduced to £65. Which was still about £60 too expensive
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Any sponsor that is not suitable for a child's kit should not be used in my opinion.
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Any sponsor that is not suitable for a child's kit should not be used in my opinion.
So we should decline the potential revenue just so it can be added to a child's kit?
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Of course it's suitable for a child's kit. They don't have to gamble, and they can't do so legally until they're eighteen. Would Rover be an unsuitable sponsor in case it encouraged underage joyriding?
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Of course it's suitable for a child's kit. They don't have to gamble, and they can't do so legally until they're eighteen. Would Rover be an unsuitable sponsor in case it encouraged underage joyriding?
Nope, just because they probably wouldn't have much to pay us.
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Of course it's suitable for a child's kit. They don't have to gamble, and they can't do so legally until they're eighteen. Would Rover be an unsuitable sponsor in case it encouraged underage joyriding?
Well it can't be that suitable as gambling logos etc aren't on the child kits.
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No idea why.
I managed to reach school-leaving age without once being tempted to buy a Mita Copier. It's not that difficult.
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Of course it's suitable for a child's kit. They don't have to gamble, and they can't do so legally until they're eighteen. Would Rover be an unsuitable sponsor in case it encouraged underage joyriding?
Well it can't be that suitable as gambling logos etc aren't on the child kits.
My youngest refused to wear the shirt from a few years ago because it didn't have the Dafabet logo on it. All he wanted was to wear the same shirt that he saw Benteke in every week. Never mind him though, think of all the money we made from the deal.
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That's why I don't agree that the kids' shirt should be different to the adults. There are bookmakers inside the stadium, should we ban children from attending?
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That's why I don't agree that the kids' shirt should be different to the adults. There are bookmakers inside the stadium, should we ban children from attending?
That's different from having your little, innocent fella unknowingly going about his day as a walking advertisement for an industry which enables addiction problems for many.
Where possible, surely it's a good thing that that is minimised?
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No idea why.
I managed to reach school-leaving age without once being tempted to buy a Mita Copier. It's not that difficult.
Huh - one of the lucky one's
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That's why I don't agree that the kids' shirt should be different to the adults. There are bookmakers inside the stadium, should we ban children from attending?
That's different to kids walking round advertising such companies.
On a similar note, my lad was upset last season that he couldn't have the League patches on his sleeves. By law the shop were not allowed to print them as they were advertising a gambling company.
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As I said, I feel it's a silly law. Kids pay no attention to who the sponsor is anyway, they just want to look like the players.
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No idea why.
I managed to reach school-leaving age without once being tempted to buy a Mita Copier. It's not that difficult.
Huh - one of the lucky one's
Yeah, its alright for some. Most people don't know how dangerous photocopier addiction can be. I grew up surrounded by Rank Xerox literature and often played on/around copiers at their Mitcheldean plant.
In my early twenties I became kind of a dealer, helping to develop new types of copiers.
Now in my forties, I'm still a user. Maybe a dozen or so times a day,
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I tried to get a develop a photocopier addiction, but I can't get near it for all the discarded Muller yoghurt pots.
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It's all in the ink yo.
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It's all a bit daft, really. By the letter of the law you shouldn't be wearing a Unibet sponsored shirt until you are over 18, and I don't think many teenagers would appreciate that. As others have alluded to, most kids don't want to look like the mascot, they want to look like the players. #
To be honest, getting my first Villa shirt aged 6 in 1977 has proved more of a troublesome addiction than any one armed bandit could ever be. Go figure!
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To be honest, getting my first Villa shirt aged 6 in 1977 has proved more of a troublesome addiction than any one armed bandit could ever be. Go figure!
Amen to that.
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Another bland modern kit. Another sponsor we could do without ::) Kit launches bore me...
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Well, they're mainly for the nippers.
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As I said, I feel it's a silly law. Kids pay no attention to who the sponsor is anyway, they just want to look like the players.
True, but I think having Acorns on the junior kits is a good compromise. They aren't the same with no logo on them.
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As I said, I feel it's a silly law. Kids pay no attention to who the sponsor is anyway, they just want to look like the players.
True, but I think having Acorns on the junior kits is a good compromise. They aren't the same with no logo on them.
Id pay extra to get a shirt without the sponsor.
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As I said, I feel it's a silly law. Kids pay no attention to who the sponsor is anyway, they just want to look like the players.
True, but I think having Acorns on the junior kits is a good compromise. They aren't the same with no logo on them.
Yes sir, sense.
Id pay extra to get a shirt without the sponsor.
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Being able to pay for a sponsor-less shirt would render the deal less appealing for the sponsor in the first place, and therefore cost the club money
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Being able to pay for a sponsor-less shirt would render the deal less appealing for the sponsor in the first place, and therefore cost the club money
Of course. I'm being hypothetical.
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Not a massive issue, but out and about today I've seen people wearing Forest and Celtic shirts. In both cases, the stars for their European Cup wins are placed prominently above their badge. Why isn't ours?
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Not a massive issue, but out and about today I've seen people wearing Forest and Celtic shirts. In both cases, the stars for their European Cup wins are placed predominantly above their badge. Why isn't ours?
Because they'll never win it again.
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Man City's away kit is a rather splendid claret and blue.
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I thought our shirt looked a bit more claret in the flesh yesterday. Which was nice
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Agreed. Looked like a proper Villa kit to me.
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And if we wore what Man City are (just had a look) we'd be appalled.
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Man City's away kit is a rather splendid claret and blue.
It's horrible.
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With claret socks I think it looks far more like a West Ham kit than one of ours and seeing John Terry in it doesn't feel right at all. Not a fan of either shirt but if I did buy one it would be for my kid.
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Think the grey training gear looks nice but whilst the shop describes all traditional kit as royal magenta instead of bloody claret and blue I'll be giving that a side birth. Yes I concur with a few others re socks. They should be pale blue or at least white, not magenta !
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On the subject of kits, I'm on the lookout for last year's home shirt in size medium - ideally in decent condition. Not seen any in sales at a reasonable price (under £25) so if you have one you're willing to part with for a realistic price please PM me.
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On the subject of kits, I'm on the lookout for last year's home shirt in size medium - ideally in decent condition. Not seen any in sales at a reasonable price (under £25) so if you have one you're willing to part with for a realistic price please PM me.
http://www.sportsdirect.com/under-armour-armour-aston-villa-home-shirt-2016-2017-mens-377949?colcode=37794909&src=google&gclid=EAIaIQobChMInNOWyI2T1QIV4b3tCh24qQbXEAQYASABEgKIJvD_BwE
I know, it's Sports Direct.
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Hello all,
I fly to Tulum in Mexico on Saturday and am away for my 6 year old lads birthday. He is desperate for the new kit in time for his birthday but obviously this won't be possible, so I know it's a long shot but I wondered if any of my fellow H&Vers are travelling to Mexico in the next couple of weeks (after 29th July)?
As I say I know it's a long shot but if someone was travelling to Mexico and would be prepared to bring me a kit (which I'd pay for in advance obviously), I'd be eternally grateful, as would my son...
Thanks
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With claret socks I think it looks far more like a West Ham kit than one of ours and seeing John Terry in it doesn't feel right at all. Not a fan of either shirt but if I did buy one it would be for my kid.
Don't like the claret socks. Would be fine with the away kit though.
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Hello all,
I fly to Tulum in Mexico on Saturday and am away for my 6 year old lads birthday. He is desperate for the new kit in time for his birthday but obviously this won't be possible, so I know it's a long shot but I wondered if any of my fellow H&Vers are travelling to Mexico in the next couple of weeks (after 29th July)?
As I say I know it's a long shot but if someone was travelling to Mexico and would be prepared to bring me a kit (which I'd pay for in advance obviously), I'd be eternally grateful, as would my son...
Thanks
can you pre order and get it delivered to your accommodation in mexico?
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Hello all,
I fly to Tulum in Mexico on Saturday and am away for my 6 year old lads birthday. He is desperate for the new kit in time for his birthday but obviously this won't be possible, so I know it's a long shot but I wondered if any of my fellow H&Vers are travelling to Mexico in the next couple of weeks (after 29th July)?
As I say I know it's a long shot but if someone was travelling to Mexico and would be prepared to bring me a kit (which I'd pay for in advance obviously), I'd be eternally grateful, as would my son...
Thanks
can you pre order and get it delivered to your accommodation in mexico?
Giggle.
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Hello all,
I fly to Tulum in Mexico on Saturday and am away for my 6 year old lads birthday. He is desperate for the new kit in time for his birthday but obviously this won't be possible, so I know it's a long shot but I wondered if any of my fellow H&Vers are travelling to Mexico in the next couple of weeks (after 29th July)?
As I say I know it's a long shot but if someone was travelling to Mexico and would be prepared to bring me a kit (which I'd pay for in advance obviously), I'd be eternally grateful, as would my son...
Thanks
can you pre order and get it delivered to your accommodation in mexico?
They messed up the delivery of my pre-order last year and I live in Tamworth.
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From Tamworth to Tijuana
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Does anyone know if the club shops up and running yet and if any kit will on sale there Saturday?
Thanks
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Does anyone know if the club shops up and running yet and if any kit will on sale there Saturday?
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Someone posted on Facebook a couple of days ago that it's still shut but is going to be open on Saturday but the club couldn't say what time it would open.
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Does anyone know if the club shops up and running yet and if any kit will on sale there Saturday?
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Someone posted on Facebook a couple of days ago that it's still shut but is going to be open on Saturday but the club couldn't say what time it would open.
Thanks, I called the number on the website and the person I spoke to obviously had no affiliation to Villa and was as much use as a chocolate teapot.
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I should add that they were told the new kit will be on sale as well.
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I know they're only minor gripes but it does piss me off that no one knows when they're getting their season tickets, no one knows when the club shop will be open, the pre season friendlies have been hit and miss and a bit shambolic. I'm pessimistic with Villa and these things play on my mind, we still seem all at sea and constantly hoping everything will just turn out all right again.
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Well on the back of the ticket office shambles, having the club shop shut for the only home pre season friendly at kit launch time wouldn't be any surprise whatsoever.
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Let's be totally honest, there are an increasing number of things going on at the moment which don't exactly smell of professionalism, aren't there?
The Hull tickets saga is an absolute fucking fiasco.
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Is the club shop due to open at the end of the month? Went down there last week and was surprised to see just a small portacabin selling a small amount of merchandise. I'd imagine sales for shirts and merchandise will be well down on normal considering even the online shop doesn't have a wide selection of merchandise.
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Let's be totally honest, there are an increasing number of things going on at the moment which don't exactly smell of professionalism, aren't there?
The Hull tickets saga is an absolute fucking fiasco.
Nicola Keye leaving to go to hammers was a big blow
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Let's be totally honest, there are an increasing number of things going on at the moment which don't exactly smell of professionalism, aren't there?
The Hull tickets saga is an absolute fucking fiasco.
Nicola Keye leaving to go to hammers was a big blow
Who have we replaced her with? Our usual trick of someone with no experience of the field?
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Alex McLeish.
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Let's be totally honest, there are an increasing number of things going on at the moment which don't exactly smell of professionalism, aren't there?
The Hull tickets saga is an absolute fucking fiasco.
Piss up and brewery springs to mind
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Let's be totally honest, there are an increasing number of things going on at the moment which don't exactly smell of professionalism, aren't there?
The Hull tickets saga is an absolute fucking fiasco.
Piss up and brewery springs to mind
Oh for the days of HDE when we had ready access to a brewery...
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Let's be totally honest, there are an increasing number of things going on at the moment which don't exactly smell of professionalism, aren't there?
The Hull tickets saga is an absolute fucking fiasco.
Piss up and brewery springs to mind
Oh for the days of HDE when we had ready access to a brewery...
To be fair, I've managed to cope with Villa for a number of years with simple access to a piss up!
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I assume that with whatever is the Canadian equivalent of a Kodi Box, you can get all our games on Sky, and our occasional cup games on other channels.
You can't expect to get games that aren't being televised... anywhere.
Except the Villa film and broadcast every single match inside Villa Park. It can't be beyond the wit of man to work out a way to stick that steam on the internet for overseas fans to pay to watch. If Sky aren't showing it they shouldn't give a fuck and AVTV demonstrated the technical capability years ago.
I can see the problem right away. They pay a fortune for the rights - they get exclusivity. If they aren't showing it, they ain't gonna let anyone else show it.
Who says they've got exclusivity? And in any event, haven't they bought the UK broadcast rights?
Maybe this is the sort of thing TV was on about - the Premier League are a canny bunch and worked out how you segment the packages to make the best use of them. Maybe that's where the Football League are going wrong. Football didn't fundamentally change in 1992 - how it was marketed did.
So the club are broadcasting live outside the UK all games which haven't been chosen for broadcast by Sky - https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2017/07/28/park-life-avtv-live-announced-new-store-to-launch-programme-details-confirmed
£110 for 20-25 games - a fiver a game - seems a reasonable sum.
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Absolutely superb news. Well done Villa!
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Match by match for £6 is decent too. Not everyone foreign fan will want to watch every game, especially given that midweek ones are awkward for those in different timezones.
Could a British person watch Villa live while on holiday abroad?
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I assume that with whatever is the Canadian equivalent of a Kodi Box, you can get all our games on Sky, and our occasional cup games on other channels.
You can't expect to get games that aren't being televised... anywhere.
Except the Villa film and broadcast every single match inside Villa Park. It can't be beyond the wit of man to work out a way to stick that steam on the internet for overseas fans to pay to watch. If Sky aren't showing it they shouldn't give a fuck and AVTV demonstrated the technical capability years ago.
I can see the problem right away. They pay a fortune for the rights - they get exclusivity. If they aren't showing it, they ain't gonna let anyone else show it.
Who says they've got exclusivity? And in any event, haven't they bought the UK broadcast rights?
Maybe this is the sort of thing TV was on about - the Premier League are a canny bunch and worked out how you segment the packages to make the best use of them. Maybe that's where the Football League are going wrong. Football didn't fundamentally change in 1992 - how it was marketed did.
So the club are broadcasting live outside the UK all games which haven't been chosen for broadcast by Sky - https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2017/07/28/park-life-avtv-live-announced-new-store-to-launch-programme-details-confirmed
£110 for 20-25 games - a fiver a game - seems a reasonable sum.
Time to get a Vypr VPN account, I think.
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I assume that with whatever is the Canadian equivalent of a Kodi Box, you can get all our games on Sky, and our occasional cup games on other channels.
You can't expect to get games that aren't being televised... anywhere.
Except the Villa film and broadcast every single match inside Villa Park. It can't be beyond the wit of man to work out a way to stick that steam on the internet for overseas fans to pay to watch. If Sky aren't showing it they shouldn't give a fuck and AVTV demonstrated the technical capability years ago.
I can see the problem right away. They pay a fortune for the rights - they get exclusivity. If they aren't showing it, they ain't gonna let anyone else show it.
Who says they've got exclusivity? And in any event, haven't they bought the UK broadcast rights?
Maybe this is the sort of thing TV was on about - the Premier League are a canny bunch and worked out how you segment the packages to make the best use of them. Maybe that's where the Football League are going wrong. Football didn't fundamentally change in 1992 - how it was marketed did.
So the club are broadcasting live outside the UK all games which haven't been chosen for broadcast by Sky - https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2017/07/28/park-life-avtv-live-announced-new-store-to-launch-programme-details-confirmed
£110 for 20-25 games - a fiver a game - seems a reasonable sum.
Time to get a Vypr VPN account, I think.
Depends if they'll let you pay for it with a UK card.
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I assume that with whatever is the Canadian equivalent of a Kodi Box, you can get all our games on Sky, and our occasional cup games on other channels.
You can't expect to get games that aren't being televised... anywhere.
Except the Villa film and broadcast every single match inside Villa Park. It can't be beyond the wit of man to work out a way to stick that steam on the internet for overseas fans to pay to watch. If Sky aren't showing it they shouldn't give a fuck and AVTV demonstrated the technical capability years ago.
I can see the problem right away. They pay a fortune for the rights - they get exclusivity. If they aren't showing it, they ain't gonna let anyone else show it.
Who says they've got exclusivity? And in any event, haven't they bought the UK broadcast rights?
Maybe this is the sort of thing TV was on about - the Premier League are a canny bunch and worked out how you segment the packages to make the best use of them. Maybe that's where the Football League are going wrong. Football didn't fundamentally change in 1992 - how it was marketed did.
So the club are broadcasting live outside the UK all games which haven't been chosen for broadcast by Sky - https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2017/07/28/park-life-avtv-live-announced-new-store-to-launch-programme-details-confirmed
£110 for 20-25 games - a fiver a game - seems a reasonable sum.
Just seen this. brilliant. Will sign up.
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I assume that with whatever is the Canadian equivalent of a Kodi Box, you can get all our games on Sky, and our occasional cup games on other channels.
You can't expect to get games that aren't being televised... anywhere.
Except the Villa film and broadcast every single match inside Villa Park. It can't be beyond the wit of man to work out a way to stick that steam on the internet for overseas fans to pay to watch. If Sky aren't showing it they shouldn't give a fuck and AVTV demonstrated the technical capability years ago.
I can see the problem right away. They pay a fortune for the rights - they get exclusivity. If they aren't showing it, they ain't gonna let anyone else show it.
Who says they've got exclusivity? And in any event, haven't they bought the UK broadcast rights?
Maybe this is the sort of thing TV was on about - the Premier League are a canny bunch and worked out how you segment the packages to make the best use of them. Maybe that's where the Football League are going wrong. Football didn't fundamentally change in 1992 - how it was marketed did.
So the club are broadcasting live outside the UK all games which haven't been chosen for broadcast by Sky - https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2017/07/28/park-life-avtv-live-announced-new-store-to-launch-programme-details-confirmed
£110 for 20-25 games - a fiver a game - seems a reasonable sum.
Time to get a Vypr VPN account, I think.
Depends if they'll let you pay for it with a UK card.
It's not restricted to the US, used to have an account, binned it a while ago.
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Mine was delivered just before the shop opened....
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My away shirt arrived today.
It looks smart and fits well but the material feels flimsy and almost see through. Last years home shirt had a much better hand feel.
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Last years home shirt had a much better hand feel.
Ooo-er!
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(http://thumb.ibb.co/cvfQ4k/IMG_20170729_231101.jpg) (http://ibb.co/cvfQ4k)
Am I missing something? Mrs has ordered me the new away top, as above, size Medium mens and there's no sponsor.
I'd probably rather have it without but it seems very strange, it's not a kids top, do they think gambling is against my beliefs perhaps!
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I've seen a few on Facebook say they received them with no sponsors on it.
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I've seen a few on Facebook say they received them with no sponsors on it.
Result!
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I think I prefer it not having Unibet plastered across it, just seems a bit amateurish, and they are actually selling a product not as advertised on the website.
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I assume that with whatever is the Canadian equivalent of a Kodi Box, you can get all our games on Sky, and our occasional cup games on other channels.
You can't expect to get games that aren't being televised... anywhere.
Except the Villa film and broadcast every single match inside Villa Park. It can't be beyond the wit of man to work out a way to stick that steam on the internet for overseas fans to pay to watch. If Sky aren't showing it they shouldn't give a fuck and AVTV demonstrated the technical capability years ago.
I can see the problem right away. They pay a fortune for the rights - they get exclusivity. If they aren't showing it, they ain't gonna let anyone else show it.
Who says they've got exclusivity? And in any event, haven't they bought the UK broadcast rights?
Maybe this is the sort of thing TV was on about - the Premier League are a canny bunch and worked out how you segment the packages to make the best use of them. Maybe that's where the Football League are going wrong. Football didn't fundamentally change in 1992 - how it was marketed did.
So the club are broadcasting live outside the UK all games which haven't been chosen for broadcast by Sky - https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2017/07/28/park-life-avtv-live-announced-new-store-to-launch-programme-details-confirmed
£110 for 20-25 games - a fiver a game - seems a reasonable sum.
Time to get a Vypr VPN account, I think.
If Netfliix can block it then anybody can, if they can be arsed.
Worth a try, though.
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Is the Villa shop open at VP yet?
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Is the Villa shop open at VP yet?
Yes mate its been open since last Sat 29/07/17
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They've changed Chester and Grealishs squad numbers and my kids have the kits. They are gutted to put it mildly.
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They've changed Chester and Grealishs squad numbers and my kids have the kits. They are gutted to put it mildly.
Take them back.
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I will, they're going to have a lot back. They've said in the phone they won't accept them back for this reason.
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I will, they're going to have a lot back. They've said in the phone they won't accept them back for this reason.
Well that's crap. Did they tell you the squad numbers may/would be changing when you bought them?
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I will, they're going to have a lot back. They've said in the phone they won't accept them back for this reason.
Well that's crap. Did they tell you the squad numbers may/would be changing when you bought them?
No they didn't it all a bit of a cock up isn't it. They should have held back on numbers or warned.
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I will, they're going to have a lot back. They've said in the phone they won't accept them back for this reason.
Well that's crap. Did they tell you the squad numbers may/would be changing when you bought them?
No they didn't it all a bit of a cock up isn't it. They should have held back on numbers or warned.
Given the price I'd have thought so!
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I will, they're going to have a lot back. They've said in the phone they won't accept them back for this reason.
Well that's crap. Did they tell you the squad numbers may/would be changing when you bought them?
No they didn't it all a bit of a cock up isn't it. They should have held back on numbers or warned.
Get on to Twitter and tag the Dr. If enough people kick up a fuss I reckon he'll do something about it.
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Were the squad numbers announced earlier this pre-season then they changed them or have they just announced the changes from last season?
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Were the squad numbers announced earlier this pre-season then they changed them or have they just announced the changes from last season?
I assume that they've just officially announced them today and made changes. Therefore I feel they should have made folks buying shirts aware that the numbers where not known at that stage, but they didn't. We were aware that Some were going to change such as Kodgia for example or had not been allocated.
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I think the best thing to do next season is wait until the numbers come out.
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Noted
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Is the Villa shop open at VP yet?
Yes mate its been open since last Sat 29/07/17
Thanks. Went down there this afternoon as I was in the area...the kits look good quality but unfortunately I left without spending anything as the range of casual wear and merchandise is extremely limited and disappointing. Not impressed.
On the flip coin, I was impressed to see a number of digital signs around the Queensway/Mailbox area whilst driving in the city centre.
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In fairness, went to the club shop on Monday and they had some Terry 26 shirts already pre-printed on hangers to buy and the Grealish ones only had his name but no number so were waiting for confirmation.
That said, they had already sold out of Youth Medium away shirts and shorts when it's only been out 3 days. Ridiculous they didn't stock up loads. Tons of adult shirts available but they should realise that the kids buy the kits a lot more than adults these days.
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Maybe they stocked up based on what they thought they would sell, even raising forecasts based on interest and just blew threw the inventory.
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https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2017/08/03/squad-numbers-shirt-printing-update
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https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2017/08/03/squad-numbers-shirt-printing-update
Blimey that's a right cock up.
"We released our squad numbers for the 2017/18 campaign this week but some supporters had already pre-ordered their tops with numbers from the last campaign.
Fans who purchased from store opening onwards have also been affected."
I have been in today and got mine swapped so no more crestfallen teenager. They weren't aware of this announcement and I had to do the cat from shrek thing.
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https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2017/08/03/squad-numbers-shirt-printing-update
Blimey that's a right cock up.
"We released our squad numbers for the 2017/18 campaign this week but some supporters had already pre-ordered their tops with numbers from the last campaign.
Fans who purchased from store opening onwards have also been affected."
I have been in today and got mine swapped so no more crestfallen teenager. They weren't aware of this announcement and I had to do the cat from shrek thing.
I'm glad you got yours sorted
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https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2017/08/03/squad-numbers-shirt-printing-update
Blimey that's a right cock up.
"We released our squad numbers for the 2017/18 campaign this week but some supporters had already pre-ordered their tops with numbers from the last campaign.
Fans who purchased from store opening onwards have also been affected."
I have been in today and got mine swapped so no more crestfallen teenager. They weren't aware of this announcement and I had to do the cat from shrek thing.
I'm glad you got yours sorted
Cheers, me too.
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https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2017/08/03/squad-numbers-shirt-printing-update
Blimey that's a right cock up.
Yes it is, but credit to the club for fixing it pretty quickly.
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https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2017/08/03/squad-numbers-shirt-printing-update
Blimey that's a right cock up.
Yes it is, but credit to the club for fixing it pretty quickly.
Absolutely yes.
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I like it when people take responsibility for their mistakes and put them right.
This is a really good response (from the initial cock-up).
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I drove to VP Monday and they had sold out of kids medium shirts and shorts. Went home and ordered on the evening. Arrived today and all good apart from the shorts are a little too big so I need to swap them for Youth Small size.
Will try at the weekend in the shop but looking on the website it appears only way is to post it back to them. Anyone else had anything online and swapped it instore? Can't see why it will be an issue but you never know with us.
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I like it when people take responsibility for their mistakes and put them right.
This is a really good response (from the initial cock-up).
Totally agree Drummond. They've admitted their mistake and agreed to fix it. Kudos to Villa for this announcement.
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I thought Recon were going to be a sponsor on the back of this years shirt ?
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Glad they are not, looks cheap having lots of different sponsors on the shirt. Aren't Premier League allowing sleeve sponsors this season?