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Offline SheffieldVillain

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Re: Summer Sells , Buys, Loans, Bomb Squaders
« Reply #75 on: March 20, 2017, 09:13:46 PM »
I agree Brian, How much can we get back on:

Richards
Elphick
Bacuna
Gardner
Gabby
Sanchez
Fat Ross
Gollini (I'd rather keep him but it's seems pretty certain that's he's off)
Gil
Gabby

Not just how much we can get back in transfer fees, but how much that lot is costing us in wages per week for very little contribution is astounding. Even assuming the loanees are having part of their wages covered by the clubs they are at, that must be £250k per week in wages at least or to put it in other terms £12 million per year.

I also like your idea of selling Gabby twice just in case he doesn't get the message the first time.

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Re: Summer Sells , Buys, Loans, Bomb Squaders
« Reply #76 on: March 20, 2017, 09:34:55 PM »
I genuinely think Steve Bruce and Keith Wyness are focussing behind the scenes on shifting the deadwood.  If the playoffs become mathematically impossible we can expect some industrial showcasing of our remaindered merchandise.

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Re: Summer Sells , Buys, Loans, Bomb Squaders
« Reply #77 on: March 20, 2017, 09:52:31 PM »
I genuinely think Steve Bruce and Keith Wyness are focussing behind the scenes on shifting the deadwood.  If the playoffs become mathematically impossible we can expect some industrial showcasing of our remaindered merchandise.

Fergedaboudit.

If Gabriel's representatives scent a whiff of sellers stakes type shenanigans, he we will go down like Buddy Holly with a bad case of vertigo.

Micah in a roving roll against inferior opposition might rekindle memories of the player he could have been, but don't hold your breath.

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Re: Summer Sells , Buys, Loans, Bomb Squaders
« Reply #78 on: March 20, 2017, 10:11:37 PM »
I agree Brian, How much can we get back on:

Richards
Elphick
Bacuna
Gardner
Gabby
Sanchez
Fat Ross
Gollini (I'd rather keep him but it's seems pretty certain that's he's off)
Gil
Gabby

Not just how much we can get back in transfer fees, but how much that lot is costing us in wages per week for very little contribution is astounding. Even assuming the loanees are having part of their wages covered by the clubs they are at, that must be £250k per week in wages at least or to put it in other terms £12 million per year.

I also like your idea of selling Gabby twice just in case he doesn't get the message the first time.

Oops, I wrote the list and then thought fuck , for got gabby and added him at the bottom but I'm leaving it as is as a show of how important it is to get rid of him.

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Re: Summer Sells , Buys, Loans, Bomb Squaders
« Reply #79 on: March 20, 2017, 10:15:41 PM »
Normally I would agree Adreno but as Anne Widdecombe said about Michael Howard, there is something of the night about Keith Wyness.  After the Westwood robbery I think he has demonic powers.

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Re: Summer Sells , Buys, Loans, Bomb Squaders
« Reply #80 on: March 20, 2017, 10:59:02 PM »
Normally I would agree Adreno but as Anne Widdecombe said about Michael Howard, there is something of the night about Keith Wyness.  After the Westwood robbery I think he has demonic powers.

You could well be right, Brian.

Stranger things have happened and are happening around us by the moment.

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Re: Summer Sells , Buys, Loans, Bomb Squaders
« Reply #81 on: March 20, 2017, 11:29:51 PM »
With Gabby and Richards, I would suggest not playing them in the hope of finding suitors. As fans, we tend to think more of players when they've not played so we can hope the same for other clubs and I expect them playing would only remind other clubs why they should leave well alone.

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Re: Summer Sells , Buys, Loans, Bomb Squaders
« Reply #82 on: March 21, 2017, 02:53:29 AM »
With Gabby and Richards, I would suggest not playing them in the hope of finding suitors. As fans, we tend to think more of players when they've not played so we can hope the same for other clubs and I expect them playing would only remind other clubs why they should leave well alone.

I suppose the other way you could look at it is that some half-decent performances against teams already on the beach might convince a team more than wrapping them in cotton wool would.

I think they're beyond salvaging though, although if I have to choose, I think Richards could potentially put in a couple of performances where he dashes forward and looks mad busy at right back (though that would be stupid - give the game time to Bree at the very least)

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Re: Summer Sells , Buys, Loans, Bomb Squaders
« Reply #83 on: March 21, 2017, 07:17:49 AM »
I'm not convinced there will be many teams seeking to pay an acceptable fee for Kodjia and meet his wage demands; so, the above views may well be academic. I'd also add that the prospect of having Hogan, Greeen, RHM, Kodjia and Grealish as the pool for a front 3 is actually quite exciting, assuming they all get a full close season to work together.
I'm hopeful that Brian's view prevails: i.e. that Wyness takes strong and decisive action to finally offload the deadwood; after all, I don't think we can fully move on from our past until the squad is shaped for its future (as opposed to hobbled by its legacy).
And, as Paul and others have pointed out, the final cauterisation of the squad will free up buying and salary funds for targeted incomers. 

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Re: Summer Sells , Buys, Loans, Bomb Squaders
« Reply #84 on: March 21, 2017, 02:59:11 PM »
Shame football can't do NFL style cut as we can get rid of players. We need to stop having a squad of 35 players as it is not good business sense.

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Re: Summer Sells , Buys, Loans, Bomb Squaders
« Reply #85 on: March 21, 2017, 03:31:16 PM »
I'm not convinced there will be many teams seeking to pay an acceptable fee for Kodjia and meet his wage demands; so, the above views may well be academic. I'd also add that the prospect of having Hogan, Greeen, RHM, Kodjia and Grealish as the pool for a front 3 is actually quite exciting, assuming they all get a full close season to work together.
I'm hopeful that Brian's view prevails: i.e. that Wyness takes strong and decisive action to finally offload the deadwood; after all, I don't think we can fully move on from our past until the squad is shaped for its future (as opposed to hobbled by its legacy).
And, as Paul and others have pointed out, the final cauterisation of the squad will free up buying and salary funds for targeted incomers.

Some good talent there I agree, but still think there needs to be a focal point up front who the others can work off.

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Re: Summer Sells , Buys, Loans, Bomb Squaders
« Reply #86 on: March 21, 2017, 05:19:24 PM »
I agree Brian, How much can we get back on:

Richards
Elphick
Bacuna
Gardner
Gabby
Sanchez
Fat Ross
Gollini (I'd rather keep him but it's seems pretty certain that's he's off)
Gil
Gabby

Just to name a few.

If we sell most of them and use that money to fund a keeper, a central defenders (given we have 3 right backs of whom De Laet can cover centrally), a defensive midfielder, and a left winger I'd be pretty happy.  Add another striker who offers something different and we'll be well set without really having to sell anyone we want to keep and without spending a huge amount.  4-5 signings this summer really should be the limit, we need a quieter window in terms on incomings.

Richards  £1.5m (rising to £2.5m fitness/appearances permitting)
Elphick     £500k
Bacuna    £750k
Gardner   £1m
Gabby      £250k
Sanchez   £500k
Fat Ross   £3m rising to £4.5m subject to performance-clauses met
Gollini (     £1.5m with sell-on clause
Gil            £500k


Sweet fanny adams then but as mentioned above, it's the wage-drain lifted that would make a real difference.

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Re: Summer Sells , Buys, Loans, Bomb Squaders
« Reply #87 on: March 21, 2017, 05:52:29 PM »
I agree Brian, How much can we get back on:

Richards
Elphick
Bacuna
Gardner
Gabby
Sanchez
Fat Ross
Gollini (I'd rather keep him but it's seems pretty certain that's he's off)
Gil
Gabby

Just to name a few.

If we sell most of them and use that money to fund a keeper, a central defenders (given we have 3 right backs of whom De Laet can cover centrally), a defensive midfielder, and a left winger I'd be pretty happy.  Add another striker who offers something different and we'll be well set without really having to sell anyone we want to keep and without spending a huge amount.  4-5 signings this summer really should be the limit, we need a quieter window in terms on incomings.

Richards  £1.5m (rising to £2.5m fitness/appearances permitting)
Elphick     £500k
Bacuna    £750k
Gardner   £1m
Gabby      £250k
Sanchez   £500k
Fat Ross   £3m rising to £4.5m subject to performance-clauses met
Gollini (     £1.5m with sell-on clause
Gil            £500k


Sweet fanny adams then but as mentioned above, it's the wage-drain lifted that would make a real difference.

Dont disagree with any of the figures, the issue is wages

Mcfatso will be on 40 grand a week and unless he gets close to that he wont be going anywhere

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Re: Summer Sells , Buys, Loans, Bomb Squaders
« Reply #88 on: March 21, 2017, 06:18:49 PM »
I agree Brian, How much can we get back on:

Richards
Elphick
Bacuna
Gardner
Gabby
Sanchez
Fat Ross
Gollini (I'd rather keep him but it's seems pretty certain that's he's off)
Gil
Gabby

Just to name a few.

If we sell most of them and use that money to fund a keeper, a central defenders (given we have 3 right backs of whom De Laet can cover centrally), a defensive midfielder, and a left winger I'd be pretty happy.  Add another striker who offers something different and we'll be well set without really having to sell anyone we want to keep and without spending a huge amount.  4-5 signings this summer really should be the limit, we need a quieter window in terms on incomings.

Richards  £1.5m (rising to £2.5m fitness/appearances permitting)
Elphick     £500k
Bacuna    £750k
Gardner   £1m
Gabby      £250k
Sanchez   £500k
Fat Ross   £3m rising to £4.5m subject to performance-clauses met
Gollini (     £1.5m with sell-on clause
Gil            £500k


Sweet fanny adams then but as mentioned above, it's the wage-drain lifted that would make a real difference.

Dont disagree with any of the figures, the issue is wages

Mcfatso will be on 40 grand a week and unless he gets close to that he wont be going anywhere

Yep.  Those driveway gates will be remaining well and truly shut. 

Most of the above (with the exception of Gollini) would be looking at a fairly hefty drop in wages if they move on, so I wouldn't be expecting any of them to go easily.

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Re: Summer Sells , Buys, Loans, Bomb Squaders
« Reply #89 on: March 21, 2017, 06:43:54 PM »
Isn't Gollini's loan for 18 months?

If so, one would imagine there wouldn't be a permanent transfer discussed until the end of that.

 


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