Summer transfer madness thread

[mr underhill]

seriously?

[PeterWithe]

Yeah, he seeems to have Gabby levels of intelligence, always running into areas he shouldn't.

He probably pisses me off more than any current player, just because he could be so much better f he listened to instructions.

[peter w]

Devils advocate time....

Ok, if you are Steve Bruce who likes playing two up top would you expect that he wants to keep Kodjia in the summer? Or would he be quite happy to cash in if one of the middling Prem teams like Watford come in with the 20m loose change & replace him with the likes of a Chris Martin who might work better in a partnership with Hogan for say 5m - would balance the books as well?

Personally I think he has done brilliantly to score the goals he has but I just don't see him as a team player, he is totally off the cuff but just does not work hard enough for the team, he has to step up his work rate if we are to improve as a team.

It would be difficult to sell Kodj but I think Hogan and AN Other would work better than Kodj and AN Other. So if we were to cash in I think it would benefit the team as long as the other players already bought, or that we plan to buy are built around the same plan. No point planning for a season of Kodj and then selling him.

[SoccerHQ]

Diawara, getting better but still very raw. At Napoli now.

Ah no chance then unless he has a long lost aunt in Perry Barr!

[Richard]

I'm sorry but there's no way we should be selling Koj

[Pete3206]

Why do we always talk about selling players that make a positive impact in our team? Cashing in on our best players is part of the reason we now reside in this cesspit of a league. It's about time we looked onwards and upwards again. Absolutely no benefit in letting Kodja go. None.

We're not Barnsley, Preston, Brentford, that load of toss up the road or even the yo-yo outfits heading back through the Premier League trap door.

This is Aston Villa and we should be planning to rip this league up next season. No play offs, not even 2nd place. We should be aiming for top spot and 100 points.
 

[tomd2103]

Devils advocate time....

Ok, if you are Steve Bruce who likes playing two up top would you expect that he wants to keep Kodjia in the summer? Or would he be quite happy to cash in if one of the middling Prem teams like Watford come in with the 20m loose change & replace him with the likes of a Chris Martin who might work better in a partnership with Hogan for say 5m - would balance the books as well?

Personally I think he has done brilliantly to score the goals he has but I just don't see him as a team player, he is totally off the cuff but just does not work hard enough for the team, he has to step up his work rate if we are to improve as a team.

They had this exact debate on WM last week.  The only one worth listening to when the subject of Villa comes up, Mark Regan, said that if an offer of around £20m came in for Kodjia then he would sell and look to bring in a left winger and a striker with the money.  His reasoning was that the way Kodjia plays means that he might get 20 goals a season, but he doesn't bring others into play so there won't be many goals from elsewhere.  He said that if we were able to bring in a striker who could not only score goals himself, but work to create chances for others as well, we would be a stronger outfit overall. 

[passitsideways]

I think we're massively overcomplicating shit to think about selling Kodjia unless our hand is really forced. We finally seem to have gotten some stability, and largely filled the gaps in our squad, sans a couple of bits here and there, and now we're thinking about selling our top scorer just because his decision-making is erratic? Absolutely we should make contingency plans, but fucking hell.

[mr underhill]

total madness - buy a player who can score and then sell him and disintegrate - where have we seen that happen before? The only regret about Kodjia is that we didn't pay the initial £2m that Bristol did.

[ldavfc4eva]

Totally agree with Mr Underhill, we need to keep Kodjia and build up the squad around him.

He and Hogan have barely played together yet so hopefully they have a good run until the season finishes to strike up a partnership.

We need to cut loose on a fair few, gabby, Richards, McCormack, Gardner and elphick and then look at those who come back from loan.

I think with som elf the loan players though even if we want or would like to add them to the squad next season the majority won't be interested, Veretout and Sanchez I think will want to play at a higher level, and I would question if Gil is strong enough for this league.

I would say a lot more need to go than be brought in though, with such a high turnover of players in the last two windows the squad needs a period of settling now, with just a few key additions, centre back, experience keeper (but I think we will have Johnstone on loan again), left winger and a third choice striker.

[Duncan Shaw]

Summarising my thoughts vs what I have read on this thread thus far.

Baker - I think Bruce rates him as he seems to play him when fit, and he seems to be better for having a good run in the team.

Amavi - I "think" he'll go as he has a reputation, but he really hasn't shown the quality we thought he would this year, but I'd certainly keep if we don;t get a silly offer

Kodjia - Just no, keep and I think Dr Tone will resist.

McCormack - Well, wtf.  We won't get anything for him, so Brucey needs to get him in for one of HIS pre-seasons and try and make something of him.  We all though Darren bent was finished two years ago and he has had a decent season for Derby.

Adomah - effective lots of assists and a few goals but worth their weight in gold in this league.  Keep.

Keeper - Johnstone looks like he's playing up to the potential he has, if United are willing to sell him then buy him - of it's another years loan tell them to do one.  And then we'd have to buy a keeper.  I fear Begovic would be a pipe dream!!

Bunn- new contract, not seen that, why would we do that???!!!

Do whatever we can to get Gabby and Richards out of the club.  Brucey is abviously talking Richards up to try and get rid, elase why hasn't he had a sniff with our injury list!

Gil, Veretout, Sanchez - just draw a line under it and get rid.  I'm not aware fo Bruce being reported as going out to watch them and it's the sort of thing that gets picked up if it happened and Dr Tone has been pretty conclusive in his tweets about the first two.

Everyone else can stay as part of a decent championship squad - buy a CB and CDM cover for Jedi and we are good to go up next season I reckon.

[brontebilly]

Devils advocate time....

Ok, if you are Steve Bruce who likes playing two up top would you expect that he wants to keep Kodjia in the summer? Or would he be quite happy to cash in if one of the middling Prem teams like Watford come in with the 20m loose change & replace him with the likes of a Chris Martin who might work better in a partnership with Hogan for say 5m - would balance the books as well?

Personally I think he has done brilliantly to score the goals he has but I just don't see him as a team player, he is totally off the cuff but just does not work hard enough for the team, he has to step up his work rate if we are to improve as a team.

They had this exact debate on WM last week.  The only one worth listening to when the subject of Villa comes up, Mark Regan, said that if an offer of around £20m came in for Kodjia then he would sell and look to bring in a left winger and a striker with the money.  His reasoning was that the way Kodjia plays means that he might get 20 goals a season, but he doesn't bring others into play so there won't be many goals from elsewhere.  He said that if we were able to bring in a striker who could not only score goals himself, but work to create chances for others as well, we would be a stronger outfit overall.

I'd agree with the rationale above

Getting rid of that sack of sh*t McCormack will be more problematic, back to Ibrox with him

Elphick, Bacuna, Baker, Richards, Amavi, Cissokho will all be off in the summer and that's just the defence !!

[Holte L2]

I think top of my summer transfer list would be to sign Wigan's match day DJ.

This. Absolutely.

[peter w]

I think we're massively overcomplicating shit to think about selling Kodjia unless our hand is really forced. We finally seem to have gotten some stability, and largely filled the gaps in our squad, sans a couple of bits here and there, and now we're thinking about selling our top scorer just because his decision-making is erratic? Absolutely we should make contingency plans, but fucking hell.

You do realise that not one person has or is advocating selling him?

[passitsideways]

I think we're massively overcomplicating shit to think about selling Kodjia unless our hand is really forced. We finally seem to have gotten some stability, and largely filled the gaps in our squad, sans a couple of bits here and there, and now we're thinking about selling our top scorer just because his decision-making is erratic? Absolutely we should make contingency plans, but fucking hell.

You do realise that not one person has or is advocating selling him?

It's been advocated in other threads, and the highest I've taken it in my post is that people have been entertaining the thought of selling him, as opposed to outright advocating his sale. I think even that's crazy talk.