Bruce Sacked at last (now official)

[Nunkin1965]

Absolutely this.
Clearly over time there will be change but now is not the time for me.

[Clampy]

How long does it take to recruit a new manager? With only too and half weeks of the transfer window left it’s a massive risk to change now, to go through the recruitment process and then expect a new bloke to have time time to assess the squad and then strengthen before the season starts?

I think some of you are letting your dislike for Bruce as a manager get in the way of common sense.

Maybe, but for his supporters it seems its never the right time to get rid of him. failed promotion - give him another season. Another failed promotion - we don't need change with our money worries. New owners - too late to change. perhaps there is some magical set of circumstances were his replacement could be considered perhaps when the moon aligns with the Mayan calender?

Or they just happen to have a different opinion to those that have wanted him gone since the day he joined?

[sickbeggar]

yeah i agree. to us that want him gone, then any time is good. I admit it., but those that support him should acknowledge that in their opinion there is never going to be a time to get rid, because they just don't want him to leave. I'm not sure either arguement is based on logic

[PaulWinch again]

I think there is a clear difference between thinking Bruce is the best possible candidate for Villa and understanding the practicalities of timing mean that a degree of pragmatism is required at this point. This is also against a backdrop of having no idea how much will be available to invest in the team.

[Ads]

There hasn't been a good time get rid of Bruce this summer. Whether you like him or not, we've been in turmoil and we've now been left with next to no time to do anything.

[Chris Smith]

How long does it take to recruit a new manager? With only too and half weeks of the transfer window left it’s a massive risk to change now, to go through the recruitment process and then expect a new bloke to have time time to assess the squad and then strengthen before the season starts?

I think some of you are letting your dislike for Bruce as a manager get in the way of common sense.

Maybe, but for his supporters it seems its never the right time to get rid of him. failed promotion - give him another season. Another failed promotion - we don't need change with our money worries. New owners - too late to change. perhaps there is some magical set of circumstances were his replacement could be considered perhaps when the moon aligns with the Mayan calender?

Very funny but I am a Villa supporter not a Bruce supporter and any change now will be overseen by people with no experience of English football and little infrastructure in place to assist them. It’s a huge risk to make a decision of that importance now.

When the new owners have got their feet under the table and had time to assess what is needed they can make informed decision. In the meantime Bruce is an experienced safe pair of hands who might just pull off another promotion.

Act in haste, repent at leisure.

[oldtimernow]

July, is the month of the Blood Moon after all

[Nunkin1965]

I’d say that it was a given that if the financial crash had not happened then Bruce would have been replaced.
Two funded attempts to get promoted would have even the most staunch Bruce supporter saying its time for change?
As it was I thought that keeping him while all around was falling apart made sense purely to for fact that he knew the squad and it seemed the better option to stick considering that our owner had gambled and lost.

[sickbeggar]

How long does it take to recruit a new manager? With only too and half weeks of the transfer window left it’s a massive risk to change now, to go through the recruitment process and then expect a new bloke to have time time to assess the squad and then strengthen before the season starts?

I think some of you are letting your dislike for Bruce as a manager get in the way of common sense.

Maybe, but for his supporters it seems its never the right time to get rid of him. failed promotion - give him another season. Another failed promotion - we don't need change with our money worries. New owners - too late to change. perhaps there is some magical set of circumstances were his replacement could be considered perhaps when the moon aligns with the Mayan calender?

Very funny but I am a Villa supporter not a Bruce supporter and any change now will be overseen by people with no experience of English football and little infrastructure in place to assist them. It’s a huge risk to make a decision of that importance now.

When the new owners have got their feet under the table and had time to assess what is needed they can make informed decision. In the meantime Bruce is an experienced safe pair of hands who might just pull off another promotion.

Act in haste, repent at leisure.

fair point. my argument is he was brought in to get us promoted quickly and before FPP struck. It didn't happen Add to that the football based on getting results by acessing the strengths of the opposition rather  than concentrating on the ability of  our own team meant he was never the right match. While i realise a managerial change will inevitably cause some turmoil, rather that now than in 6 months time halfway through a season.

[john e]

to keep the wrong man is never the right thing to do

[sickbeggar]

It's a simple choice. New man with new ideas with the remains of Bruce's squad and little or no new signings now, or Bruce with the remains of Bruce's squad and little or no new signings and maybe some unemployed usual suspect bought in as a sticking plaster come Christmas.. I'd rather face the problems now than in december

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The problem is as Chris highlights; who is the new man, can we afford him, can he work with what we've got, can we be confident the owners have the expertise to choose and will he have enough time to strengthen.

Unless there's harmony in that choir, the choice to stick with Bruce is correct.

[sickbeggar]

The problem is as Chris highlights; who is the new man, can we afford him, can he work with what we've got, can we be confident the owners have the expertise to choose and will he have enough time to strengthen.

Unless there's harmony in that choir, the choice to stick with Bruce is correct.

Most players can adapt to a different style if asked to short term. We hardly have a squad chock-a-bloc full of hoof merchants. Set the style now and those that can adapt we keep, and the rest we replace over the next
season or so.


End of the day its a rebuilding job whether Bruce stays or goes. Lets rebuild the right way.

[Mister E]

My guess - as a long-term SB doubter - is that he will be told: work with what you've got and we'll review it in late-November. Unless it starts really badly, I don't think they'll want to rock the boat any further until they have got a real understanding of things.
The only circumstance in which this might differ is if they have actually got someone waiting in the wings to take over this next week.

[Mister E]

I'd add that the press release yesterday also said "We look forward to working with Dr Tony to undertake a thorough assessment and evaluation of the club in the coming weeks ..." which doesn't imply knee-jerk changes in the short-term.