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Author Topic: Bruce Sacked at last (now official)  (Read 2144248 times)

Offline brian green

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Re: Bruce out
« Reply #15555 on: July 21, 2018, 06:50:04 AM »
What is so heartening about the inflow of available major funding is that it make the prospect of managing us so much more attractive.  Last week were were a toxic brand with the likes of James Nursey and the Meaning Evil dancing on our grave.  No talented young manager would risk his career on a club presented by the media as a basket case.

Not only prospective managers but the incumbent one felt free to shovel all the blame onto the owner and present himself as a martyr doing the club a favour by staying.

Now all that has changed.  Bruce will really fancy staying in place and will be forced to move out of the football stone age and young, progressive, ambitious, talented, energetic, imaginative, intelligent, articulate managers will not turn their noses up at us.  Such is the power of money.

All that is needed now is for the wealth of the new owners to be invested in a hard nosed, clearly thought through, business like way.  No more naivety.  No more milking the club dry by wasters and piss takers, no more treatment of the club as one last big pay day and most of all no more rolling of the dice with the club's future.

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Re: Bruce out
« Reply #15556 on: July 21, 2018, 07:05:51 AM »
However much money we have, the next 12 months will be tough for anyone in charge, the first part of being competitive again is to get the squad in a state that FFP is being adhered too. After that they can start to build on the squad in a much more sustainable way. That will still mean selling Jack this summer though. Hopefully his sale will reach 25m plus now there is not a fire sale situation, and 3-4 of the fringe on big salaries will leave to bring the wage bill down. With that in mind, Bruce should be given the remit of getting us in and around the playoffs with 3-4 loan/ free transfers.

Offline brian green

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Re: Bruce out
« Reply #15557 on: July 21, 2018, 07:44:41 AM »
More importantly Bruce has to be told - told not requested - to make full and better use of our own young players.  If there is any message that the new owners need to send out it is that the days of old, injury prone, unmotivated, slow, bargain basement shirt fillers are over.  We nurture our own resources, we bring young players on, we reap the benefits.  No more nodding towards a youth policy by bringing on our young players for the last ten minutes of games while betting the mortgage on worn out old pluggers.

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Re: Bruce out
« Reply #15558 on: July 21, 2018, 07:49:14 AM »
If the investment is in place then the last reason for keeping him has gone. If i was an investor i wouldn't want him spending my money.

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Re: Bruce out
« Reply #15559 on: July 21, 2018, 07:56:38 AM »
Several papers running Thierry Henry this morning.

Offline brian green

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Re: Bruce out
« Reply #15560 on: July 21, 2018, 07:58:30 AM »
Not the most popular player at VP for the Arse.

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Re: Bruce out
« Reply #15561 on: July 21, 2018, 07:59:49 AM »
I guess the only arguments left to have are about the gamble. Bruce is seen as a dinosaur but also, to a large degree as experienced and steady?  In what might be a season of uncertainty, do we sack him and gamble on someone less experienced?  We are not going to get relegated, so, I reckon they will get rid of him by Christmas, once they have more of a grip on the club.  Then, rather than gamble on Thierry Henry, go for the very best we can get.

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Re: Bruce out
« Reply #15562 on: July 21, 2018, 08:01:41 AM »
I really don’t want a high profile rookie manager as our next manager. In the main this type of appointment does not work. In an ideal world we need to uncover the natural successor to Sir Graham. I’ve no idea who that is though.

Offline GarTomas

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Re: Bruce out
« Reply #15563 on: July 21, 2018, 08:03:58 AM »
The watched the last few minutes of the season review where he got Hull promoted in 2016.

He even said himself it was a bit of individual magic that got them promoted in a 1-0 win...

I think his one dimensional approach is being surpassed even in the Championship now. Minus Grealish this year he’ll be even less equipped to succeed.


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Re: Bruce out
« Reply #15564 on: July 21, 2018, 08:04:48 AM »
Not the most popular player at VP for the Arse.

Don't remind me about that free kick Brian

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Re: Bruce out
« Reply #15565 on: July 21, 2018, 08:05:00 AM »
I agree. We've gambled enough over the last 10 years. Look where it's got us!

Offline john e

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Re: Bruce out
« Reply #15566 on: July 21, 2018, 08:06:42 AM »
if they are as switched on as they seem,
before they make whatever funds they can available to Bruce they will surely look at what his record has been

all they have to do is see what players he has already brought in see what deals have been done with wages and contracts etc, have a look at any resale values and how successful they have been in the team

then decide whether they feel they can trust Bruce to spend wisely

and the answer of course is a big fat No

Offline brian green

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Re: Bruce out
« Reply #15567 on: July 21, 2018, 08:23:09 AM »
Fat Sam summed it up years ago.  Players are like bottles.  Some are milk bottles, some are pop bottles.
You get something back for pop bottles.  For milk bottles you get nothing.

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Re: Bruce out
« Reply #15568 on: July 21, 2018, 08:26:42 AM »
Several papers running Thierry Henry this morning.
Hmmm. Not sure about his capabilities but a lot would depend who comes with him as his coaching team - Wenger as Football Director?

Offline mr underhill

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Re: Bruce out
« Reply #15569 on: July 21, 2018, 08:28:03 AM »
Fat Sam was always full of shit Brian to be fair. it is clear now that with the take over the most important signings this summer is a CEO who actually is a CEO and a manager who actually is a manager. And the latter isn't Bruce.

 


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