Thankfully 0% Villa now - Tim Sherwood, chancer extraordinaire

[Toronto Villa]

He deliberately neglected the few talented players we had in favour of the dross he had chosen. An act of vanity that cost the club its position in the top flight. I can forgive him for being shite, but not for that. He can get fucked.

Unfortunately this is an opinion and not fact.

Being sacked In September doesn't hold the relegation at his door either.

And getting "fucked" is a wow 😳.

It was a disaster when he left. He turned an outstanding opportunity into a farce. He divided the dressing room and pointed fingers at everyone else. The man was poison. While relegation wasn't a certainty he played a huge role in the club getting to that point. By the time Garde arrived most of the damage was done.

All opinions, he wasn't poison when he kept us up and got to a cup final.

And we know he split the dressing room with which quotes from someone inside it?

Tim? Is that you?

[AV5nobs]

That's a new one, when someone disagrees ask if it's he person being defended.

You are unique.

Any quotes?

[PeterWithesShin]

Here's a fact. He's won 8 of his last 42 games as a manager. Although he wasn't a manager at Swindon, he just decided which players they bought and sold and chose their starting 11, formation and tactics.

[Damo70]

I think the easiest way to split a dressing room is to have it full of an under pressure manager, under pressure coaches and players both under pressure and losing every week. I would suggest for quite a while our dressing room was not a fun place to be for anyone involved.

[Damo70]

Here's a fact. He's won 8 of his last 42 games as a manager. Although he wasn't a manager at Swindon, he just decided which players they bought and sold and chose their starting 11, formation and tactics.

I'm sure he would deny that in the same way he distances himself from any transfer business conducted while he was with us.

[PeterWithesShin]

This was my view on him a few months ago, it hasn't changed.

I always took his comments after the sha game to mean that it was a deliberate plan to play more direct and be physical. Somehow that's now become "we meant to play shit".

As for his managerial skills, he doesn't have any beyond being able to motivate players. Once that's gone he has nothing else to offer. A shit John Gregory if you like. And his about turn on the signings was a twat move.

That said, for a short while he made following Villa fun again, and he gave me 2 days i'll never forget. I wouldn't want him anywhere near the club again, but I can't get too worked about him either.

[Toronto Villa]

That's a new one, when someone disagrees ask if it's he person being defended.

You are unique.

Any quotes?

I really can't be arsed to find quotes. He was a cock. Call it an opinion if you want. I'm calling it a fact. When we signed players in the summer he was all for it. When things went to shit they weren't his players. He split the dressing room into English "lads" vs foreigners. He sewed the seeds that led to out relegation. His record in the end was simply horrific. And worse of you combine it with the way we ended the previous season.

[AV5nobs]

Here's a fact. He's won 8 of his last 42 games as a manager. Although he wasn't a manager at Swindon, he just decided which players they bought and sold and chose their starting 11, formation and tactics.

And that's relevant to Aston Villa how?

People saying he split the dressing room, is poison etc is daft talk and silly.

Will always be grateful to Tim for that Semi Final and keeping us up.

[AV5nobs]

That's a new one, when someone disagrees ask if it's he person being defended.

You are unique.

Any quotes?

I really can't be arsed to find quotes. He was a cock. Call it an opinion if you want. I'm calling it a fact. When we signed players in the summer he was all for it. When things went to shit they weren't his players. He split the dressing room into English "lads" vs foreigners. He sewed the seeds that led to out relegation. His record in the end was simply horrific. And worse of you combine it with the way we ended the previous season.

How convenient.

Calling someone a cock is subjective and something I expect to hear from th chavs in my local...and I can quote them.

[Tayls_7]

That's a new one, when someone disagrees ask if it's he person being defended.

You are unique.

Any quotes?

I really can't be arsed to find quotes. He was a cock. Call it an opinion if you want. I'm calling it a fact. When we signed players in the summer he was all for it. When things went to shit they weren't his players. He split the dressing room into English "lads" vs foreigners. He sewed the seeds that led to out relegation. His record in the end was simply horrific. And worse of you combine it with the way we ended the previous season.

How convenient.

Calling someone a cock is subjective and something I expect to hear from th chavs in my local...and I can quote them.

You'll always be grateful to Tim?

Jesus. H. Christ. Get a grip.

[LeeB]

This is a real debate on the subject of Tim, yes? Not like that pretend one me and PeterW had about Mr Men on another thread?

It's a brave man that attempts to absolve Tim of blame in our demise, especially if it's not Tim himself.

[AV5nobs]

yep extremely grateful, get a grip of your quoting it's all over the gaff.

[PeterWithesShin]

Here's a fact. He's won 8 of his last 42 games as a manager. Although he wasn't a manager at Swindon, he just decided which players they bought and sold and chose their starting 11, formation and tactics.

And that's relevant to Aston Villa how?

People saying he split the dressing room, is poison etc is daft talk and silly.

Will always be grateful to Tim for that Semi Final and keeping us up.

Well it indicates he's not very good so Aston Villa were right to sack him as things wouldn't have improved. So that's how it's relevant.

As for the rest, there was a fair bit of stuff around at the time that the dressing room was split, especially the new signings. I'm sure you can find it if you want.

Talking of facts, while you're here you can answer this for me.

2 top four consecutive finishes wasn't too shabby.

When was that then?

[AV5nobs]

Enlighten me on the subject of the comment please?

[Tayls_7]

yep extremely grateful, get a grip of your quoting it's all over the gaff.

Capital letter to begin a sentence and a full stop rather than comma. Happy to help. Get a grip.