Herbert Ellis

[Tayls_7]

Well, if it's a political thread, austerity is the result of uncontrolled spending way beyond your means.  There always comes a day of reckoning.  Oh, back on Villa.

Who spent beyond their means?

[Rudy Can't Fail]

I'm struggling to see what all the fuss is about, the payment is simply Doug's final installment for his knighthood.

[brian green]

Of course Rudy.  Lay away honours. 

[Jimbo]

Enough about this ex-Birmingham City board member.

[Chris Smith]

Randy Lerner would seem a competent owner if you only count the good seasons and ignore anything bad that ever happened.

How many cups and top four finishes did Mr Lerner achieve?

Even in Dougs relegation he manged
To acquire Sir Graham from Watford.

Please never compare Lerners tenure with Dougs.

So, you compare Lerner and Ellis and then tell the rest of us not to do the same.

[old man villa fan]

Well, if it's a political thread, austerity is the result of uncontrolled spending way beyond your means.  There always comes a day of reckoning.  Oh, back on Villa.

Who spent beyond their means?

Anybody that has had to tighten their belt severely.

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

Well, if it's a political thread, austerity is the result of uncontrolled spending way beyond your means.  There always comes a day of reckoning.  Oh, back on Villa.

Who spent beyond their means?

Anybody that has had to tighten their belt severely.

Those on the lower rungs of the economic ladder now were working in the higher echelons of the banking system ten years ago at places such as RBS ?   

[stuart445]

Randy Lerner would seem a competent owner if you only count the good seasons and ignore anything bad that ever happened.

How many cups and top four finishes did Mr Lerner achieve?

Even in Dougs relegation he manged
To acquire Sir Graham from Watford.

Please never compare Lerners tenure with Dougs.

You right you can't compare Lerner to Ellis. Lerner only took us from 6th to relegation in 6 years, whereas Ellis took us from Champions Of Europe to relegation in 5 years.

[KevinGage]

What should also be put in the scales of HDE's record is the destruction of the Trinity architecture and it's replacement with Kwik Build Flatpackery.  I hate the word icon but it was an icon in three fields - architecture, urban social history and football history.  HDE turned it to rubble but worse still was proud of what he did.  The ultimate football Philistine.

Tell it, Mr Green.

Of all his many phuck ups that is the one that still cuts deep.  And all for the sake of an extra 3-4000 (usually empty) seats.

But good ol' Doug loves the club, or something.

[Ads]

Old man spends his money, dafuq to do with you bruv?

Is how I feel about this story.

[PeterWithesShin]

2 top four consecutive finishes wasn't too shabby.

When was that then?

[wittonwarrior]

Ellis destroyed our standing, our tradition and then to remodel the club on himself   Sorry but cannot like the guy

[eamonn]

Randy Lerner would seem a competent owner if you only count the good seasons and ignore anything bad that ever happened.

How many cups and top four finishes did Mr Lerner achieve?

Even in Dougs relegation he manged
To acquire Sir Graham from Watford.

Please never compare Lerners tenure with Dougs.

So, you compare Lerner and Ellis and then tell the rest of us not to do the same.

Everybody Else Is Doing It So Why Can't We?

[Pat McMahon]

Trying to pretend O'Leary was anything but an unmitigated disaster is scraping the barrel.

We did have a very good second half of the 2003-4 season, finishing just outside Europe, and playing some great football. I recall the ground was rocking in games against Chelsea and Spurs.

Overall, O'Leary was shit but we did have that one good season under him.

[Toronto Villa]

200 pages

LOL I'm taking the over