Quote from: Clampy on October 04, 2017, 06:46:20 AMQuote from: Risso on October 03, 2017, 10:47:34 PMQuote from: Clampy on October 03, 2017, 07:00:37 PMI'm not so sure about him being a panic buy. There's not much evidence of that really to be honest. I think he's a very good player as well. It's just not happened for him here yet unfortunately.1 league goal in twenty odd appearances is a pathetic return, whatever the mitigating circumstances.It's not been a good return no, but it still doesn't mean it was a panic buy.How do you think Bruce intended to utilise him?
Quote from: Risso on October 03, 2017, 10:47:34 PMQuote from: Clampy on October 03, 2017, 07:00:37 PMI'm not so sure about him being a panic buy. There's not much evidence of that really to be honest. I think he's a very good player as well. It's just not happened for him here yet unfortunately.1 league goal in twenty odd appearances is a pathetic return, whatever the mitigating circumstances.It's not been a good return no, but it still doesn't mean it was a panic buy.
Quote from: Clampy on October 03, 2017, 07:00:37 PMI'm not so sure about him being a panic buy. There's not much evidence of that really to be honest. I think he's a very good player as well. It's just not happened for him here yet unfortunately.1 league goal in twenty odd appearances is a pathetic return, whatever the mitigating circumstances.
I'm not so sure about him being a panic buy. There's not much evidence of that really to be honest. I think he's a very good player as well. It's just not happened for him here yet unfortunately.
Quote from: eamonn on October 04, 2017, 08:52:33 AMQuote from: Clampy on October 04, 2017, 06:46:20 AMQuote from: Risso on October 03, 2017, 10:47:34 PMQuote from: Clampy on October 03, 2017, 07:00:37 PMI'm not so sure about him being a panic buy. There's not much evidence of that really to be honest. I think he's a very good player as well. It's just not happened for him here yet unfortunately.1 league goal in twenty odd appearances is a pathetic return, whatever the mitigating circumstances.It's not been a good return no, but it still doesn't mean it was a panic buy.How do you think Bruce intended to utilise him?I don't know but I still don't think it was a buy out of desperation. I do like him coming off the bench though and if he wasn't here, our other striker would just be Gabby.
Misfit, yes. Talentless, no.He's not the complete striker by any stretch of the imagination but he has two real strengths, vision and a burst of pace to find space in behind defences and a talent for knowing where the goal is.The first of these is almost completely useless the way Bruce has us set up. He needs Davis alongside him and creative midfielders behind him.The second of these we'll only see the benefit of if he's given a run of games. He's clearly rusty when he comes on because he hardly ever plays but then you can't justify playing him if he's not scoring goals because he does nothing else.I think flogging him before his value drops too much more would be best for everyone.
How is he going to come good? He had his chance in the team when Kodjia was out for ages, and didn't take it. Now either Bruce doesn't know what to do with him, or Hogan isn't very good and was massively over-priced. Either way, Kodjia and Davis are playing well, and god forbid one of them gets an injury, how is Hogan going to come good? Brentford apparently based their whole way of playing around him, and Bruce just isn't going to do that, or doesn't know how. A baffling signing.
Agree with pretty much all of that Adam, but I'm not sure he has that real burst of pace that you mention.
Quote from: Risso on October 05, 2017, 10:56:54 AMHow is he going to come good? He had his chance in the team when Kodjia was out for ages, and didn't take it. Now either Bruce doesn't know what to do with him, or Hogan isn't very good and was massively over-priced. Either way, Kodjia and Davis are playing well, and god forbid one of them gets an injury, how is Hogan going to come good? Brentford apparently based their whole way of playing around him, and Bruce just isn't going to do that, or doesn't know how. A baffling signing.Back when Grealish had his injury, Bruce commented that he wanted to focus our attacking play through him. If that's the case, Hogan almost certainly would have benefited and, therefore, may well do when Grealish returns.
I'd sell him in the summer and recoup whatever money we can on him. Every year will see his value drop less and less. He won't be forcing himself in to the side any time soon, how could he? What does he bring to the table that we need?
Back when Grealish had his injury, Bruce commented that he wanted to focus our attacking play through him. If that's the case, Hogan almost certainly would have benefited and, therefore, may well do when Grealish returns.
Quote from: Drummond on October 05, 2017, 12:48:58 PMBack when Grealish had his injury, Bruce commented that he wanted to focus our attacking play through him. If that's the case, Hogan almost certainly would have benefited and, therefore, may well do when Grealish returns.Grealish has been terrible ever since Sherwood left, hard to see how he would make any of our strikers lift their game.