Quote from: tomd2103 on September 21, 2017, 12:16:03 PMQuote from: Proposition Joe on September 21, 2017, 10:45:26 AMQuote from: tomd2103 on September 20, 2017, 10:23:19 AMI am struggling to think of a player I have seen play for us who has had less impact on a game than Hogan. I understand that the service wasn't great again last night, but he had absolutely no affect on the game whatsoever. I fully understand it must be difficult when the service is so limited, but he doesn't make it difficult for defenders at all and they seem to have such an easy time against him. Remember Guy Whittingham? Didn't we sign him on the back of a 40+ goal season? Then when he played for us he simply didn't fit. Left us with single figure goals.Certainly do. Gary Penrice was another one.To be fair to Whttingham and Penrice they both came from a lower division. Whittingham was only given 25 games and Penrice just twenty (I actually though Penrice played even less than that). You can also guarantee that in both cases those totals included coming on as sub a fair few times.
Quote from: Proposition Joe on September 21, 2017, 10:45:26 AMQuote from: tomd2103 on September 20, 2017, 10:23:19 AMI am struggling to think of a player I have seen play for us who has had less impact on a game than Hogan. I understand that the service wasn't great again last night, but he had absolutely no affect on the game whatsoever. I fully understand it must be difficult when the service is so limited, but he doesn't make it difficult for defenders at all and they seem to have such an easy time against him. Remember Guy Whittingham? Didn't we sign him on the back of a 40+ goal season? Then when he played for us he simply didn't fit. Left us with single figure goals.Certainly do. Gary Penrice was another one.
Quote from: tomd2103 on September 20, 2017, 10:23:19 AMI am struggling to think of a player I have seen play for us who has had less impact on a game than Hogan. I understand that the service wasn't great again last night, but he had absolutely no affect on the game whatsoever. I fully understand it must be difficult when the service is so limited, but he doesn't make it difficult for defenders at all and they seem to have such an easy time against him. Remember Guy Whittingham? Didn't we sign him on the back of a 40+ goal season? Then when he played for us he simply didn't fit. Left us with single figure goals.
I am struggling to think of a player I have seen play for us who has had less impact on a game than Hogan. I understand that the service wasn't great again last night, but he had absolutely no affect on the game whatsoever. I fully understand it must be difficult when the service is so limited, but he doesn't make it difficult for defenders at all and they seem to have such an easy time against him.
Had Bruce looked at his goals? And how to get the best out of him?
Quote from: Damo70 on September 21, 2017, 12:38:32 PMQuote from: tomd2103 on September 21, 2017, 12:16:03 PMQuote from: Proposition Joe on September 21, 2017, 10:45:26 AMQuote from: tomd2103 on September 20, 2017, 10:23:19 AMI am struggling to think of a player I have seen play for us who has had less impact on a game than Hogan. I understand that the service wasn't great again last night, but he had absolutely no affect on the game whatsoever. I fully understand it must be difficult when the service is so limited, but he doesn't make it difficult for defenders at all and they seem to have such an easy time against him. Remember Guy Whittingham? Didn't we sign him on the back of a 40+ goal season? Then when he played for us he simply didn't fit. Left us with single figure goals.Certainly do. Gary Penrice was another one.To be fair to Whttingham and Penrice they both came from a lower division. Whittingham was only given 25 games and Penrice just twenty (I actually though Penrice played even less than that). You can also guarantee that in both cases those totals included coming on as sub a fair few times.Fair point. I think it is probably worth noting that Hogan was playing non-league football four years ago.
I spoke to a Brentford fan about him a few weeks agoHe said: good player, couldn't believe how much we paid for him, has only really had one good half season at this level, and was very injury prone
Was the away game at Bristol City straight after the Wigan cup match? I could just check, but I'm lazy.For me, in the Wigan game where he scored a brace, he looked sharp and his second was a beautiful finish. He should have been the first name on the team sheet for the Bristol City game. If we had a proper manager who plays to win, Hogan would've been.Instead he was reduced to the status of a late sub. For what reason? Was he injured in the Wigan game? If so, why was he even in the squad for the Friday night match?Bruce has contributed hugely to Hogan's lack of form.A crap manager. Get rid.
Quote from: Axl Rose on September 21, 2017, 01:07:03 PMWas the away game at Bristol City straight after the Wigan cup match? I could just check, but I'm lazy.For me, in the Wigan game where he scored a brace, he looked sharp and his second was a beautiful finish. He should have been the first name on the team sheet for the Bristol City game. If we had a proper manager who plays to win, Hogan would've been.Instead he was reduced to the status of a late sub. For what reason? Was he injured in the Wigan game? If so, why was he even in the squad for the Friday night match?Bruce has contributed hugely to Hogan's lack of form.A crap manager. Get rid.We were playing Wigan reserves.
&feature=shareThrough balls from midfield... all a bit alien for us.
Quote from: London Villan on September 20, 2017, 09:49:39 PM&feature=shareThrough balls from midfield... all a bit alien for us.That is NOT the same Scott Hogan we have signed. There must've been a mix up at the hospital.