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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #465 on: August 06, 2017, 01:39:29 AM »
Hogan was very good today. Gabby should have squared it to him when clean through and he superbly stepped over to let the ball to Gabby to score. I think he needs to be more greedy.

Sorry Olaf, can't agree with that.  A couple of nice touches to nearly set himself up in the first half, but I thought he was increasingly ineffective as the game went on.  I accept it's not all his fault as we don't play to his strengths, but there is little point in playing him if we are going to continue to play the way we did today, 


I half-agree with both of you about today. But in general there seems to be a collective shrug of the shoulder and 'Bruce can't have seen him at Brentford or he would't have bought him' vibe around this. We're talking about the most expensive player Bruce has ever bought. It's madness. Hogan's a good player, but to put him in a Bruce side is like dousing a Quail's egg in salad cream to make your Uncle Kevin's sandwiches to take to work on his pig farm in the winter. Bruce has wasted 15m of his employer's money (and potentially ruined a good player's career). It's practically gross misconduct.

We could've got Akinfenwe for a couple of pork pies and a handjob* and he'd have contributed way more under this manager.

*I know that for a fact.

I agree, I still can't quite work out why he spent so much money on him, as he wasn't the type of striker we needed last season and still isn't this one.  That seemed to be the general way of doing things last season though - sign players who have 'done a job' in the division without any real plan on how they will fit in to the side or way of playing. 
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Offline mr underhill

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #466 on: August 06, 2017, 07:28:02 AM »
If he comes good I will be the first to hold my hands up and apologize but I've seen nothing in Hogan to suggest he'll be a success at Villa.

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #467 on: August 06, 2017, 08:14:56 AM »
I will do the same.  Seen nothing at all to inspire confidence in him.

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #468 on: August 06, 2017, 08:28:15 AM »
Thought he looked ok tbh.


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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #469 on: August 06, 2017, 08:31:25 AM »
Bruce bought him because he'd scored a fuckload of goals so he thought "he must be good".

I thought he was OK yesterday and if one of his half-chances goes in we win the game and everyone says he's turned a corner. Such is life.

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #470 on: August 06, 2017, 09:13:33 AM »
When Lansbury was getting close first half, he looked effective and should have had a brace.

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #471 on: August 06, 2017, 10:39:50 AM »
Hogan was very good today. Gabby should have squared it to him when clean through and he superbly stepped over to let the ball to Gabby to score. I think he needs to be more greedy.

Sorry Olaf, can't agree with that.  A couple of nice touches to nearly set himself up in the first half, but I thought he was increasingly ineffective as the game went on.  I accept it's not all his fault as we don't play to his strengths, but there is little point in playing him if we are going to continue to play the way we did today, 


I half-agree with both of you about today. But in general there seems to be a collective shrug of the shoulder and 'Bruce can't have seen him at Brentford or he would't have bought him' vibe around this. We're talking about the most expensive player Bruce has ever bought. It's madness. Hogan's a good player, but to put him in a Bruce side is like dousing a Quail's egg in salad cream to make your Uncle Kevin's sandwiches to take to work on his pig farm in the winter. Bruce has wasted 15m of his employer's money (and potentially ruined a good player's career). It's practically gross misconduct.

We could've got Akinfenwe for a couple of pork pies and a handjob* and he'd have contributed way more under this manager.

*I know that for a fact.

But a handjob is all the butchery brings cos fame isn't easy as him

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #472 on: August 06, 2017, 10:41:58 AM »
Hogan was very good today. Gabby should have squared it to him when clean through and he superbly stepped over to let the ball to Gabby to score. I think he needs to be more greedy.

Did he do that step-over deliberately? If so, that is bloody impressive anticipation. Hendrie used to do it to good effect on occasion back in the day (for Dion and JPA in particular).

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #473 on: August 06, 2017, 11:33:12 AM »
I will do the same.  Seen nothing at all to inspire confidence in him.

You were saying he would score 25 goals last week.

It bemuses me people are saying he's going to score 20-25 as I've seen little to suggest that. At best hopefully he can get about 10-15 with some of them being winning goals so still contributing positively but not hitting the heights Kodjia will when he gets back.

SB bringing Hogan in is very similar to McCormack e.g. a manager lazily looking at the championship scoring charts, picking one of the leading scorers and thinking they could just do the same in this team without actually analyzing how he actually scored the goals and what positions he took up.

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #474 on: August 06, 2017, 11:42:42 AM »
Hogan will only ever be effective in a front two, and with someone to play off. Playing him on his own will only serve to knacker his confidence.

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #475 on: August 06, 2017, 11:48:54 AM »
Hogan will only ever be effective in a front two, and with someone to play off. Playing him on his own will only serve to knacker his confidence.

Kodjia isn't interested in playing in a front two so there's your problem when he's fit again.

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #476 on: August 06, 2017, 11:58:40 AM »
Hogan was very good today. Gabby should have squared it to him when clean through and he superbly stepped over to let the ball to Gabby to score. I think he needs to be more greedy.

Did he do that step-over deliberately? If so, that is bloody impressive anticipation. Hendrie used to do it to good effect on occasion back in the day (for Dion and JPA in particular).
Yes watching from middle of upper North how I saw it and watch his reaction as soon as he did that.

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #477 on: August 06, 2017, 12:14:26 PM »
I said last week that if the balls were put to him low and hard and frequently he could score 25 goals a season.  Because I have never seen him given the ball low and hard and frequently in the box (other than the excellent goal he scored in Germany) I have never seen him in the flesh justify the money spent on him.

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #478 on: August 06, 2017, 12:23:04 PM »
Hogan was very good today. Gabby should have squared it to him when clean through and he superbly stepped over to let the ball to Gabby to score. I think he needs to be more greedy.

Sorry Olaf, can't agree with that.  A couple of nice touches to nearly set himself up in the first half, but I thought he was increasingly ineffective as the game went on.  I accept it's not all his fault as we don't play to his strengths, but there is little point in playing him if we are going to continue to play the way we did today, 


I half-agree with both of you about today. But in general there seems to be a collective shrug of the shoulder and 'Bruce can't have seen him at Brentford or he would't have bought him' vibe around this. We're talking about the most expensive player Bruce has ever bought. It's madness. Hogan's a good player, but to put him in a Bruce side is like dousing a Quail's egg in salad cream to make your Uncle Kevin's sandwiches to take to work on his pig farm in the winter. Bruce has wasted 15m of his employer's money (and potentially ruined a good player's career). It's practically gross misconduct.

We could've got Akinfenwe for a couple of pork pies and a handjob* and he'd have contributed way more under this manager.

*I know that for a fact.

But a handjob is all the butchery brings cos fame isn't easy as him

I can't tell you how much I enjoyed that reference. Come rescue, rescue me.

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #479 on: August 06, 2017, 12:37:36 PM »
I said last week that if the balls were put to him low and hard and frequently he could score 25 goals a season.  Because I have never seen him given the ball low and hard and frequently in the box (other than the excellent goal he scored in Germany) I have never seen him in the flesh justify the money spent on him.

As I've said before I'm not convinced that Bruce picked Hogan or Hourihane, I just don't see how either of them fit into how he plays.

 


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