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Offline Sexual Ealing

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2325 on: October 08, 2016, 09:44:51 PM »
Why would a manager agree to come in on the basis that if he successfully achieves his objective he'll be sacked?

Surely lots of contract workers (as football managers are) across the land work on the same basis? Do what you've been brought in for and off you go with a bonus in your pocket.

Not that I want it to be Bruce, by the way!

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2326 on: October 08, 2016, 09:49:39 PM »
Fcuk me folks, let's get a bit of perspective here. We need to focus on winning more than we lose before anything else. That in itself is massive progress.
So the answer is appoint a manager  with 36% win ratio?

Did I say I wanted Bruce?

Edit: Can you tell me our current win rate?
« Last Edit: October 08, 2016, 10:06:04 PM by Des Little »

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2327 on: October 08, 2016, 09:54:37 PM »
I think the idea of us ditching Bruce once/if promotion is achieved because we'd need someone sexier in the Premier League is wishful thinking. Like we all wished Sherwood had gone before last season started, rewarding "success" with sacking is rarely done by anyone.
He would have to go through a turgid spell of us not winning games in the top flight before being shoved.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2328 on: October 08, 2016, 09:59:37 PM »
I think we need a Bruce type, Tried and tested at this level and just the sort of a manager to get us back to basics and winning games. Wagner may well be the next big thing, I recall some saying Garde was the next Wenger, look how that turned out. Get Bruce in and get us stable and winning games.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2329 on: October 08, 2016, 10:03:01 PM »
I'm literally sat here drinking Oxford Gold and laughing at the suggestion Brucey agrees to come, get us promoted and then agrees graciously to be sacked.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2330 on: October 08, 2016, 10:06:46 PM »
I don't care if he gets sacked once we are promoted, at the minute getting promoted this season looks like a miracle.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2331 on: October 08, 2016, 10:11:00 PM »
Fcuk me folks, let's get a bit of perspective here. We need to focus on winning more than we lose before anything else. That in itself is massive progress.
So the answer is appoint a manager  with 36% win ratio?

Did I say I wanted Bruce?

Edit: Can you tell me our current win rate?

Conveniently ignoring his 53% win ratio in this division and 1.8 point per game average?

Offline walsall villain

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2332 on: October 08, 2016, 10:14:22 PM »
I'm literally sat here drinking Oxford Gold and laughing at the suggestion Brucey agrees to come, get us promoted and then agrees graciously to be sacked.
I'm not fretting about whether our next manager will be sacked if we get promoted. I'm more hopeful he can keep us up. The last five years have got me looking down not up. Anyway, the guy that got Southampton up was dumped quickly to public outrage but they have moved onwards and upwards nicely, we could do the same.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2333 on: October 08, 2016, 10:17:07 PM »
Dyche = Exciting. Bruce = Boring.

Last season Burnley scored 72 and conceded 35. Hull scored 69 and conceded 35.

That must be a lie. Along with the fact that Dyche has never been relegated from the PL either.

Offline villan from luton

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2334 on: October 08, 2016, 10:18:04 PM »
Get Bruce in, guaranteed promotion and then get pep in.

Lets be realistic lads, we are not a catch at the moment and much as I like the thought of Dean Smith coming in we have had lots of failures recently

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2335 on: October 08, 2016, 10:19:58 PM »
Why would a manager agree to come in on the basis that if he successfully achieves his objective he'll be sacked?

Well I imagine you don't position it like that.

So you'd have to give him a longer contract than you wanted him to have, and then pay him over the odds to leave. Just strikes me as a very odd strategy.

We hired RDM on a two year deal. Why wouldn't we offer Bruce the same? Last time I checked he's out of a job and no club of our size is going to want him. So I think he might be keen.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2336 on: October 08, 2016, 10:20:41 PM »
Dyche = Exciting. Bruce = Boring.

Last season Burnley scored 72 and conceded 35. Hull scored 69 and conceded 35.

That must be a lie. Along with the fact that Dyche has never been relegated from the PL either.

Indeed. I've never really thought Bruce's teams play awful football and just defend.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2337 on: October 08, 2016, 10:35:49 PM »
I think the idea of us ditching Bruce once/if promotion is achieved because we'd need someone sexier in the Premier League is wishful thinking. Like we all wished Sherwood had gone before last season started, rewarding "success" with sacking is rarely done by anyone.
He would have to go through a turgid spell of us not winning games in the top flight before being shoved.

Tell that to Slavisa Jokanovic who got Watford promoted and was then replaced by Quique Flores.

Offline kippaxvilla2

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2338 on: October 08, 2016, 10:42:53 PM »
Bruce will be appointed on Monday - according to Mr Collymore's twitter.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2339 on: October 08, 2016, 10:49:48 PM »
It's a sorry state of affairs that we've gotten ourselves into for Bruce to be considered to be the best candidate for the job.

 


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