Next Villa manager

[Jimbo]

Maybe Dyche is happy where he is? Maybe he doesn't want to join a club that gets through managers like most people go through tubes of toothpaste? Maybe all this has come at a bad time?

I'd like to see him interviewed, but maybe he's excited by what he's building at Burnley and wants to see if he's got what it takes to survive in the Premier League?

[Brian Taylor]

It surprises me how many times some people have to be hit in the face with a custard pie to realise they're in a slapstick movie. How many games have we actually won in the last few seasons? How many away games? Where did we finish last season? How many points did we get? How pathetic were we? Where are we now? Who have we beaten? What level of character and fight are we showing? When are we ever going to turn it around?

This is wartime, folks, and we need a wartime leader. In other words, the best that we can get given our current situation. The fact is a lot of the good managers out there don't need us, and all the crap that surrounds us. Managers walk in sharp, smart and vital, and walk out looking like they've been on Devil's Island for 20 years. Does Sean Dyche need that? Bielsa? Wagner?

This really isn't talking the club down, it's objectively taking stock of where we are and how we can stop the rot. There's nothing stable about being 19th in the Championship after 11 games. We may not be losing every week, but this is a league in which you have to pick up wins. Make no bones, there's only one trend at Villa and it's on a downward slope.

Well said. Giggs seems to have dropped out of equation. Only a hard nosed, sort of, chap like Steve Bruce will take a chance of avoiding the pellet of poison in the chalice from the palace. Good luck to him if he gets the job. I, or my family, haven't been so depressed over villa prospects in decades. Even my nephew's kids have chosen Everton to support which is a bit sad. If the coming generation at looking elsewhere it says it all.

[paul_e]

Going back to messages I think the message Bruce sends is "we're Aston Villa and we're out of date enough to think you can have entertainment or results but not both".

What's worse is that a lot of people seem to be totally on message with that.

[Malandro]

Maybe Dyche is happy where he is? Maybe he doesn't want to join a club that gets through managers like most people go through tubes of toothpaste? Maybe all this has come at a bad time?

I'd like to see him interviewed, but maybe he's excited by what he's building at Burnley and wants to see if he's got what it takes to survive in the Premier League?

Hope he's been asked. He may also fancy a new challenge, he's been there four years I think.

[Monty]

If we're in a war, why are we hiring a general who refuses to use the latest technology?

[in exile]

If we're in a war, why are we hiring a general who refuses to use the latest technology?

Eh?

[sickbeggar]

I still think we're a bigger pull than a lot of us realise. If you're a manager in the game at a smaller club, and you come to Villa Park, the ground, the set-up, the money, the crowds, the potential. All there that you won't get at perhaps more than 8 other clubs in England. If, and its a big IF, you can persuade a manager that we're serious and looking to the long term, then you can get them. MON, SGT, Atkinson all eventually succumbed to the lure.

[Monty]

If we're in a war, why are we hiring a general who refuses to use the latest technology?

Eh?

Jimbo said 'it's wartime'. Sorry, that comment did look weird!

[Chris Jameson]

Whilst he wouldn't be the most thrilling of appointments at least Bruce always had Hull City well organised which is more than can be said for any of our recent managers. I like him, don't give a toss who he once managed 9 years ago, he'll stop the rot.

[paul_e]

If we're in a war, why are we hiring a general who refuses to use the latest technology?

Bruce didn't need psychologists or sports scientists when he was an Man Utd so why should we need them now.  As for tactics 442  and give it to the wingers to hit a big man is all you need.

[Monty]

Whilst he wouldn't be the most thrilling of appointments at least Bruce always had Hull City well organised which is more than can be said for any of our recent managers. I like him, don't give a toss who he once managed 9 years ago, he'll stop the rot.

He'll stop the rot and start the rut. I'm sorry, I don't think he's all that likely to get us promoted and I'm not excited to see his football. But we'll see.

[PaulWinch again]

Whilst he wouldn't be the most thrilling of appointments at least Bruce always had Hull City well organised which is more than can be said for any of our recent managers. I like him, don't give a toss who he once managed 9 years ago, he'll stop the rot.

That's exactly my view. We need to crawl before we start sprinting. Our footballers need to be organised into a coherent functioning team and Bruce will do that. In a couple of years we can move on, but given our current situation and the stage of the season I don't think you can jump the organisational step.

[Jimbo]

The only message we're sending out at the moment is: we're Aston Villa, we have occasional delusions of grandeur, we're soft as shite, we can't win a game and we're rolling down the leagues like a cannon ball on a heater skelter.

By the way, I'm not saying Steve Bruce is the answer. I'm saying we have to cut our cloth accordingly. If Bielsa wants to come, then let's have him. But I'm doubting our power to attract that sort of manager right now. Needs must, and all that. And I'm not going to throw a tantrum if we get a tried and tested alternative, preferably on a short contract. Two years would make sense.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Whilst he wouldn't be the most thrilling of appointments at least Bruce always had Hull City well organised which is more than can be said for any of our recent managers. I like him, don't give a toss who he once managed 9 years ago, he'll stop the rot.

Stopping the rot should be the easiest thing providing our next manager knows more than nothing about using subs. It's the rest of the job that concerns me with SFB, nice chap that he is.

[sickbeggar]

jesus, we want Bruce because he can organise the team? That's a basic qualification by anyone's standards.