Next Villa manager

[SoccerHQ]

The last 5 years have been fucking horrible. If we have to have dull and boring and no style Bruce to get us stable and promoted so be it.  Hull twice in last 3 years was it? With a tenth of our budget? There are no certainties but don't we need someone to get us up?

He spent loads at Hull.

He's much better when he's finding players from the Honduran second division like he did at SHA/Wigan when Figeruoa and Wilson Palacios turned up.

[sickbeggar]

I imagine he's out of football due to legal reasons rather than waiting for his dream job at villa to become available

[260475]

Some creative thinking there. I wasn't excited by the original poll list, couldn't seen any name on there I'd fancy.

Continuing my earlier post about systems rather than one man appointed, It might just be that RDM got in the way of match day adjustments that others would make, and the basic system they started to put in place at BMH 3 months ago would have come good. We can scour the lists of: Who is out of work (Only one with recent exp is Bruce), who we can poach (bad form, and having seen the start we've made who'd jump?), or cut to the chase we could give Clarke a bid of breathing space, add any support the board and advisers etc. might consider approriate and keep building with him. Can't be too hard to turn our high drawing ratio into some kind of acceptable win ratio.

Otherwise we might try another, spend 2,3,4 mill on compo when popular support evaporates, rinse and repeat. Owner wouldn't like that much.

[sickbeggar]

Some creative thinking there. I wasn't excited by the original poll list, couldn't seen any name on there I'd fancy.

Continuing my earlier post about systems rather than one man appointed, It might just be that RDM got in the way of match day adjustments that others would make, and the basic system they started to put in place at BMH 3 months ago would have come good. We can scour the lists of: Who is out of work (Only one with recent exp is Bruce), who we can poach (bad form, and having seen the start we've made who'd jump?), or cut to the chase we could give Clarke a bid of breathing space, add any support the board and advisers etc. might consider approriate and keep building with him. Can't be too hard to turn our high drawing ratio into some kind of acceptable win ratio.

Otherwise we might try another, spend 2,3,4 mill on compo when popular support evaporates, rinse and repeat. Owner wouldn't like that much.

I rate clarke as a coach and so do a lot of people in the game. Manager not so sure.. Wouldn't be adverse to giving it a go seeing he knows the players but i really think he's not in the owners thinking now. Will he even get a game?

[Villa in Denmark]

Did someone mention Hoddle?

Hasn't managed for about ten years and was a disaster in that last job at Wolves. Not too mention the baggage

There's no need to lower yourself to Hoddles levels and talk about Drewery like that.

[Villa in Denmark]

Ryan Giggs! Where do these stories come from?

Agents & friends in the media I'd guess.

[LeeB]

Bielsa is available I think. Christ that would be my dream appointment.

One day we will do something mad and brilliant like that. One day, my friend.

[TB]

I still thank Sherwood for 3 great months and getting to the FA Cup final and a near miracle keeping us up. Some great football including a great performance against Liverpool in the semi. He was unlucky losing Vlaar, Delph, Cleverley and Benteke and having no final say on recruitment. I still want Bruce to takeover as he will certainly tighten the defence and instill some much needed discipline.

You might want to re-visit his comments on incoming players when they were signed. According to TS at the time, he had the final say on each and every one of them, and apparently had been monitoring some of them for years. His stance after he was sacked after an abysmal start to the season naturally was 'nothing to do with me, guv, honest!'

I'll thank him for coming in and giving some good players the confidence they needed, enabling Villa to stay up. But I do wish Villa had replaced him during the summer.

[robbo1874]

If Southgate doesn't permanently replace Allardyce as England manager, I'd like to see us at least try and get him. I think he'd do very well at Villa.

[Villa in Denmark]

Glen Hoddle never seems to appear on these prospective lists - he would certainly be someone who would be a perfect candidate to me.   

It could work you know, he and Tone are both Scorpios.

Quite the opposite according to the wife. "They'd kill each other" being one of her reasons why it's a non-starter. Though a Scorpio herself, shes not a fan of Scorpio men. Either too bossy or over cautious, apparently.

Understandable.  Why trust anyone that willingly drives the world's ugliest car?

[Villa in Denmark]

Did someone mention Hoddle?

Hasn't managed for about ten years and was a disaster in that last job at Wolves. Not too mention the baggage

What baggage??

The bit where he said that disabled people were paying the price for bad things they must have done in a previous life.
And Diamond Lights

And the purple nylon golfing shirts he was wearing on ITV's Euros coverage.

And for saying "you have to put a bit of swazz on it" in his half-time analysis.

Is that a modern euphamism for something that wouldn't normally be mentioned before the watershed?

[A Northern Soul]

The Guardian, maybe speculatively, report that we want Wagner and have Bruce as the fall back option. That really excites me (Wagner) and would in my humble opinion represent more strategic thinking than the previous chuck it at the wall and see if it sticks thinking

[Risso]

The Guardian, maybe speculatively, report that we want Wagner and have Bruce as the fall back option. That really excites me (Wagner) and would in my humble opinion represent more strategic thinking than the previous chuck it at the wall and see if it sticks thinking

I was reading about Wagner and in pre-season he took their squad away for a bonding session in the wilderness.  I really like the idea of taking the likes of Westwood and Elphick out to the wilderness, say the middle of Svalbard, and leaving them there.

[sickbeggar]

I still thank Sherwood for 3 great months and getting to the FA Cup final and a near miracle keeping us up. Some great football including a great performance against Liverpool in the semi. He was unlucky losing Vlaar, Delph, Cleverley and Benteke and having no final say on recruitment. I still want Bruce to takeover as he will certainly tighten the defence and instill some much needed discipline.

You might want to re-visit his comments on incoming players when they were signed. According to TS at the time, he had the final say on each and every one of them, and apparently had been monitoring some of them for years. His stance after he was sacked after an abysmal start to the season naturally was 'nothing to do with me, guv, honest!'

I'll thank him for coming in and giving some good players the confidence they needed, enabling Villa to stay up. But I do wish Villa had replaced him during the summer.

 oh come on now.  I'm no sherwood fan but its blatently obvious he has little to do with a lot of the signings and while he got his say on some, a lot of them were part of a club policy of bringing in cheap/young/promising players with the hope of flogging them for millions 2 years down the line. Yes he lied at the time, but there was little else he could do apart from resign and he wasn't going to do that , anymore than TSM and Lambert did. You employ yesmen and that's what you get, though he shouldn't have moaned about it afterwards.

[tomd2103]

Bielsa is available I think. Christ that would be my dream appointment.

El Loco...Yes please...

"Eager to instil teams with a hunger for attacking football, Bielsa has a reverence for experimentation in football. From replicating forecasted matchday conditions by tweaking the training pitch, to marking player boots in order to outline where they should connect with the ball, the Argentine lives and breathes the beautiful game and is considered as a tactical pioneer in the modern football world, hence why so many have opted to take a leaf out of his book. "

Pep and Pochettino are two well-known disciples.

Missed this bit out:

"On 6 July 2016, Bielsa was appointed manager of Italian Serie A club Lazio.  However, just two days later, on 8 July, Bielsa quit as the club's manager, prompting Lazio to issue legal action against Bielsa for breach of contract, suing him for €50 million".

Sounds like just the man we need in our current plight.