Next Villa manager

[sickbeggar]

We're gonna end up with some duffer with no job. Lets hope for a new manager bounce and try again next summer

[Monty]

The Graun says Wagner, if not him then Bruce. That's not particularly joined-up thinking - a bit Martinez-McLeish all over again.

Obviously Bruce is better than McLeish, but the chasm of styles between the two options is stark.

[Dave]

I would like to see Ryan Giggs given the job...he has learnt from the best and I think would get the best out of our exciting frontline  and would probably give our young lads a chance. The thought of Warnock or Bruce in the home dugout at Villa Park sends a shiver down by spine.

So we should employ Giggs just because he "learnt from the best", but Bruce would be a terrible choice.

Gotcha.

Sorry Dave just an opinion..no need for the twatish reply.

You might want to reconsider the tone of your own reply.

[exiled on the wirral!]

I dont think Bruce is a bad choice...but after spending most of the 2000s singing songs in jest at him and now wanting him to rescue us just shows how far we have have dropped. I'm still struggling with that concept.

[exiled on the wirral!]

I would like to see Ryan Giggs given the job...he has learnt from the best and I think would get the best out of our exciting frontline  and would probably give our young lads a chance. The thought of Warnock or Bruce in the home dugout at Villa Park sends a shiver down by spine.

So we should employ Giggs just because he "learnt from the best", but Bruce would be a terrible choice.

Gotcha.

Sorry Dave just an opinion..no need for the twatish reply.

You might want to reconsider the tone of your own reply.

Gotcha.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Glen Hoddle never seems to appear on these prospective lists - he would certainly be someone who would be a perfect candidate to me.   

It could work you know, he and Tone are both Scorpios.

Quite the opposite according to the wife. "They'd kill each other" being one of her reasons why it's a non-starter. Though a Scorpio herself, shes not a fan of Scorpio men. Either too bossy or over cautious, apparently.

[nigel]

Wouldn't mind Dean Smith, Villa fan too.
Reckon it will be Brucey Baby, who I reckon would be a pretty good choice.

[cheltenhamlion]

Can we just fucking employ someone from abroad. With talent. Who is as heavy a hitter as the salary we will pay dictates?

Fucking Bruce and Warnock and Smith and Rowett and whoever the fuck else (and if you are leaning in Sherwood's direction you should be fucking sectioned). Why the actual fuck would we want to put up with any of these?

2-4 million quid a year gets you Bielsa. It gets you Klinsmann. It gets you Van Gaal. It gets you Mancini. It gets you Rangnick. Or, forget it. I think that is my point.

We need someone that the dressing room looks at and says "shit, now he has pedigree". And Tone has the cash to make that a reality.

Punch our mother fucking weight for once and bring in an arrogant bastard who turns up his nose at our league position and this league.

"This league is shit and you shouldn't be in it. I will ensure you won't be for long".

[sickbeggar]

bruce would be insane to come here  given who he's managed I'd wait for a better job if i was him. Even us next summer would make more sense because by then the promotion or bust lot will have regained a bit of reality

[nigel]

I dont think Bruce is a bad choice...but after spending most of the 2000s singing songs in jest at him and now wanting him to rescue us just shows how far we have have dropped. I'm still struggling with that concept.

What is it the youngsters say?

'It's only Bants' 

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Well said, Chelts.

[ktvillan]

I can't even believe people are advocating Sherwood.  I didn't think it would be possible to get more insane than the McLeish appointment, but bloody hell that would do it.  Even appointing Colin wouldn't be that bad.

[paul_e]

I don't see anything twattish in it, Giggs is a good choice because he played for Fergie but that doesn't apply to Bruce, what makes the difference?  Giggs would be a massive gamble made for the wrong reason.

We need someone with experience who has a defined style of play that they trust and who is arrogant enough to know it's going to work even if it doesn't look like it is doing.

I can't give any examples because the "defined style of play" is the most important factor.  Once we know what we want to be then we can look at managers to fill our needs.  As an alternative I'd be tempted to try something ridiculous and totally out of our market by picking up someone who has been there and done it but either isn't working or is in a retirement job in China/USA.  Someone like Bielsa for example.  I know it's unlikely they'd join us but if Xia is as big a deal as we want him to be then maybe it's not quite so outlandish.

[nigel]

Can we just fucking employ someone from abroad. With talent. Who is as heavy a hitter as the salary we will pay dictates?

Fucking Bruce and Warnock and Smith and Rowett and whoever the fuck else (and if you are leaning in Sherwood's direction you should be fucking sectioned). Why the actual fuck would we want to put up with any of these?

2-4 million quid a year gets you Bielsa. It gets you Klinsmann. It gets you Van Gaal. It gets you Mancini. It gets you Rangnick. Or, forget it. I think that is my point.

We need someone that the dressing room looks at and says "shit, now he has pedigree". And Tone has the cash to make that a reality.

Punch our mother fucking weight for once and bring in an arrogant bastard who turns up his nose at our league position and this league.

"This league is shit and you shouldn't be in it. I will ensure you won't be for long".

You know, mate?
You're dead right.
Come on Uncle Tony, bring someone in who'll frighten the league to death!!

[KevinGage]

Aston Villa want David Wagner to become club’s new manager

Aston Villa will turn to Steve Bruce if they are unable to persuade the Huddersfield manager, David Wagner, that he should give up the team he has taken to the top of the Championship to try to rescue one of England’s bigger, and more troubled, clubs.

Villa are exploring whether there is any chance of tempting Wagner away from Huddersfield in the wake of Roberto Di Matteo’s sacking, with the Midlands club currently 19th in England’s second tier and potentially facing the ignominy of a relegation fight in their first season outside the top flight since 1988.

Wagner, previously part of Jürgen Klopp’s staff as the manager of Borussia Dortmund’s second team, has impressed Villa after giving Huddersfield realistic ambitions of returning to the top division for the first time since 1972. However, it would not be straightforward to convince him he should leave the Yorkshire club, or persuading his employers to let it happen, and on that basis Villa are giving serious consideration to offering Bruce a way back into management.

Bruce has been out of work since leaving Hull City in the summer and, despite being interviewed for the England manager’s job before Sam Allardyce’s appointment, the Football Association has not gone back to him now it has become free again.

The position at Villa is complicated by the fact Bruce managed Birmingham City from 2001 to 2007 but, nine years on, that is not thought to be an insurmountable problem and the 55-year-old is keen to return to work. If that were to happen, one of his first games would be back at St Andrews, with the two clubs meeting on 30 October.

Ryan Giggs, overlooked for the Swansea City manager’s job, is not thought to be a contender and Villa are hoping to fill the position quickly, with the club’s owner, Tony Xia, timing Di Matteo’s sacking so the international break can be used for the interview process.

Di Matteo had only 11 league matches in charge but the man who led Chelsea to the Champions League saw his team take only 10 points in that time, and sections of the club’s travelling support called for his removal during the 2-0 defeat at Preston on Saturday.

Villa are two points off the relegation places, their only win coming against the bottom club Rotherham, and their chances of returning to the Premier League look slim in the extreme unless there is a remarkable turnaround over the next seven months.

The chief executive, Keith Wyness, has been placed in charge of finding the new manager with the club’s new technical director, Steve Round. In the meantime, the assistant manager, Steve Clarke, will take training for a club searching for their fifth manager in 20 months.

Villa were relegated last season with 17 points from 38 games and, since Paul Lambert’s sacking in February 2015, Tim Sherwood, Remi Garde, and Di Matteo have lasted 175 days on average.

Wagner would certainly be different.  I'd just hope this juggernaught of doom doesn't drag him under.

We couldn't really ruin Bruce's career, as he's had over 20 years in management.

On the subject of Bruce -as much as part of me would die if I seen him in our dug-out- how would we feel if he ended up at Derby or similar?  I know identical arguments were probably made for Pearson, but if Bruce goes to Derby or one of the other misfiring clubs in the Championship, their chances of promotion increase substantially.