Chico, I don't want Allardyce, but his record is demonstrably better than Warnock's, and what I've read about his actual management methods is much better too.
Quote from: Monty on October 03, 2016, 02:32:05 PMChico, I don't want Allardyce, but his record is demonstrably better than Warnock's, and what I've read about his actual management methods is much better too.Fair enough. Although I was interested in who your preferred realistic choice would be.
I'd like to see Tim Sherwood given a go with this squad, the new owner, some money, and Steve Clarke supporting him.I blame the directors around him last time for the horror show of players he brought in last summerHe's said he's up for it again
Right, fine, have it your way. He's been around for 1000 years, has been failing and flailing very visibly for the last five years until finally - finally - he does something right. Now he's going to take a team of talented attackers and make them 'battle'. Because that's the way to get the best out of Ayew, McCormack and Kodjia. Give them some boxing gloves.Obviously the players need to show more bottle, but that's the absolute bear minimum. RDM's extraordinary failure doesn't make Warnock's absolute basicness any better - it just emphasises how terribly RDM has done.Quote from: Chico Hamilton III on October 03, 2016, 02:35:06 PMQuote from: Monty on October 03, 2016, 02:32:05 PMChico, I don't want Allardyce, but his record is demonstrably better than Warnock's, and what I've read about his actual management methods is much better too.Fair enough. Although I was interested in who your preferred realistic choice would be. Allardyce is realistic and I would prefer him to Warnock. If he really is the best we can do, or Bruce is the best we can do, then fine - it would be million miles from perfect, but fine. I'd prefer Wagner or Rowett myself, but they might not want to come.
He wasn't "alright", he was spectacularly succesful. He took a team that looked certain to go down and kept them up with ease.Again, just denying this because it doesn't suit your argument does you no favours.
Quote from: Monty on October 03, 2016, 02:37:29 PMRight, fine, have it your way. He's been around for 1000 years, has been failing and flailing very visibly for the last five years until finally - finally - he does something right. Now he's going to take a team of talented attackers and make them 'battle'. Because that's the way to get the best out of Ayew, McCormack and Kodjia. Give them some boxing gloves.Obviously the players need to show more bottle, but that's the absolute bear minimum. RDM's extraordinary failure doesn't make Warnock's absolute basicness any better - it just emphasises how terribly RDM has done.Quote from: Chico Hamilton III on October 03, 2016, 02:35:06 PMQuote from: Monty on October 03, 2016, 02:32:05 PMChico, I don't want Allardyce, but his record is demonstrably better than Warnock's, and what I've read about his actual management methods is much better too.Fair enough. Although I was interested in who your preferred realistic choice would be. Allardyce is realistic and I would prefer him to Warnock. If he really is the best we can do, or Bruce is the best we can do, then fine - it would be million miles from perfect, but fine. I'd prefer Wagner or Rowett myself, but they might not want to come.Was the first part of your reply directed at me? a bit OTT if so - I only asked who you thought the manager should be.
Quote from: Chico Hamilton III on October 03, 2016, 02:41:15 PMQuote from: Monty on October 03, 2016, 02:37:29 PMRight, fine, have it your way. He's been around for 1000 years, has been failing and flailing very visibly for the last five years until finally - finally - he does something right. Now he's going to take a team of talented attackers and make them 'battle'. Because that's the way to get the best out of Ayew, McCormack and Kodjia. Give them some boxing gloves.Obviously the players need to show more bottle, but that's the absolute bear minimum. RDM's extraordinary failure doesn't make Warnock's absolute basicness any better - it just emphasises how terribly RDM has done.Quote from: Chico Hamilton III on October 03, 2016, 02:35:06 PMQuote from: Monty on October 03, 2016, 02:32:05 PMChico, I don't want Allardyce, but his record is demonstrably better than Warnock's, and what I've read about his actual management methods is much better too.Fair enough. Although I was interested in who your preferred realistic choice would be. Allardyce is realistic and I would prefer him to Warnock. If he really is the best we can do, or Bruce is the best we can do, then fine - it would be million miles from perfect, but fine. I'd prefer Wagner or Rowett myself, but they might not want to come.Was the first part of your reply directed at me? a bit OTT if so - I only asked who you thought the manager should be. No no, it was aimed at CD! I found his reasoning a bit mad. No hard feelings for disagreeing about a football manager, I hope!