Aston Villa v Nottingham Forest Post Match Thread

[Tuscans]

Given the shitter of an equaliser I'm genuinely sort of happy and optimistic about things at the club. Player for player I think we have a much better squad than last season. A fit and firing midfield Jedinak, Tshibola, Grealish, Adomah excites me and the forward choices are arguably the best we have had for many a year. It looks like we've spent every penny well so far in recruitment, our choice of forwards is fantastic and they're all excellent players, bringing different things to the table.

I'm kinda buzzing for Brentford now.

[Toronto Villa]

I just do not see what he thought he was doing in not shoring up the midfield (ie to actually give us one) when 2-1 up and 10 or so minutes to see out till victory.

Forest were utterly fucking awful, yet they've come away with a point. That is what has got to stop.

I think he hoped we'd carry on playing how we did to go into the lead. If we'd carried on like that, we would've breezed it. For whatever reason, we stopped. That was the players.

But there was no reason to try to grab a third, we had ten minutes to see it, he should have strengthened in the middle and killed off the game. How many strikers did we have on the pitch at the end?

I can only think that Jedinak might have been a bit more fucked than we are led to believe. A third would have been great. Getting out with a win would have been massive. Locking down the middle is precisely why we bought him in the first place.

[Jimbo]

I think we need to accept that turning round this thundering shitternaut is going to take time. It'll be at least 2018 until we get back where we belong. I bet Dr Tony went fucking nuts in Shanghai though.

[pauliewalnuts]

I think we need to accept that turning round this thundering shitternaut is going to take time. It'll be at least 2018 until we get back where we belong. I bet Dr Tony went fucking nuts in Shanghai though.

I read somewhere that they practically had to put a spit hood on and taser him at Luton, he was so annoyed.

[timeoutbigbar]

So disappointed.  We played well, create chances and score a couple of good goals, only to get pegged back by a couple of wonder goals that those players will never score again.  I really don't know what more we have to do.  This one probably has to be on RDM though, its simple game management to shore things up a bit when you're in front, especially if you've got 4 strikers on the pitch.  Kodjia played really well, Ayew and Grealish were both brilliant and infuriating in equal measure, taking far too many unnecessary touches.  There are positives, its just difficult to take at the minute.  Get Tish and Jedinak back in on wednesday and Adomah for a bit of natural width.

[curiousorange]

One unpleasant realisation is how bilious fans of other sides in this division are. If Premier League fans last season were like hyenas, the Championship ones are like vultures.

[Matt Collins]

The second goal in particular pisses me off because they virtually bulldozed there way through, man up and get physical and fucking break the move down, pull him down or whatever but you cannot allow someone to bludgeon their way through your midfield and defence. There still seems a real lack of will to will, the desire or knowhow to do whatever it takes to stop the opposition. No one tracking Lansbury properly either, Westwood appears on the scene as always a few yards too late, boy is that bloke shite.

RDM to blame for me. We had five forwards on the pitch at the time

It WILL click and this set of players is too good for the vast majority of sides in this league

Quite how we line up v Brentford is anyone's guess. You'd want gestede, ayew and kodjia on the pitch for sure

[PeterWithesShin]

If we'd been getting overrun the last 10 mins i'd be more pissed off that we didn't being on Jedinak but we weren't. They had 1 great run and scored and that was all they offered after we took the lead, and if we'd have scored it we would have been creaming ourselves.

[goldenjimi]

So frustrating,we are so close to being a decent team. RDM needs some wins quick,I have this feeling that Dr Tony is not a patient man & might be trigger happy. Hopefully we get into the winning habit soon & we dont find out.

[themossman]

The thing about us being better than our results is that you could actually have said that about us at the start of last season, for a bit. It doesn't guarantee you a turnaround, and it doesn't take long for the good players to collectively say fuck it.

[kippaxvilla2]

Get Jedinak in for Westwood get Tahibola in for Gardner and start seeing games out and we wil do okay. Keep persisting with them and we will be an average championship team.

How can you say that when a team with Westwod and Gardner in created 20+ chances and with better finishing / luck could have scored 4 or 5 goals?

Because they simply aren't good enough at assisting with what is now popularly known as game management.  Woeful the pair of them.  Symptomatic of our acceptance of mediocrity to shitness over the last 5 years.

[curiousorange]

Someone said that Jedinak was being readed to come on when Forest equalised. It was five minutes later than he should have done, which is Sherwood-at-Leicester-esque management from Di Matteo. I'm unsatisfied with a point, but you can't account for McCormack hitting the post or Ayew almost breaking the crossbar. The only way of legislating for that is to have a go whenever you're close to goal. Score the easy chances and the more difficult ones start to go in somehow.

[johnny from donny]

I think we need to accept that turning round this thundering shitternaut is going to take time. It'll be at least 2018 until we get back where we belong. I bet Dr Tony went fucking nuts in Shanghai though.

I read somewhere that they practically had to put a spit hood on and taser him at Luton, he was so annoyed.

Given recent events,  maybe remarks about tasering aren't exactly wise or tasteful.

[Tuscans]

The second goal in particular pisses me off because they virtually bulldozed there way through, man up and get physical and fucking break the move down, pull him down or whatever but you cannot allow someone to bludgeon their way through your midfield and defence. There still seems a real lack of will to will, the desire or knowhow to do whatever it takes to stop the opposition. No one tracking Lansbury properly either, Westwood appears on the scene as always a few yards too late, boy is that bloke shite.

RDM to blame for me. We had five forwards on the pitch at the time

It WILL click and this set of players is too good for the vast majority of sides in this league

Quite how we line up v Brentford is anyone's guess. You'd want gestede, ayew and kodjia on the pitch for sure

I wouldn't drop Ross though, some might. He consistently puts in a good set piece and can finish with the right supply. I'm a bit stuck but I think he will go with the same team, minus Gardner and bring on Adomah at some point. 

[PeterWithesShin]

26 goal attempts is the most we've had in a game for 6 years.