Aston Villa v Nottingham Forest Post Match Thread

[Meanwood Villa]

The horrible realization that we're not going to get promoted this season. 😢

Check out where Burnley were at Christmas and their run of results second half of the season. Nothing is certain yet.

Burnley were 5th at Christmas. Hardly miles off it.

And after six games they'd just won their third in a row. Everyone keeps saying we're going to twat someone soon, we'll definitely win next time etc. One win in 20.

[Axl Rose]

You're not going to win many games with Westwood in the team. A Blues of a player.

We fucking deserved to win that, though.

[PeterWithesShin]

When was the last time we wen't behind in a league game and won? It seems like years. I really thought we were going to get that monkey off our back today.

Leicester at home, December 7th 2014.

[villadelph]

The more things change, the more they stay the same. There were positives and if we continue to play like that sooner or later someone will take a hammering. We still look a long way off Newcastle and Huddersfield though, and that's depressing in itself. Not being as good as Huddersfield shows just how far this club has fallen.

And yet we battered Huddersfield for most of the game.

We're a lot closer to being a decent side than a lot of people are giving us credit for imo.

I don't agree.

That's a given.

If decent means a mid-table championship side, then yeah we look as if we're becoming decent.

I just don't see it when it comes to the on field performance. On paper, we look a good bunch but out on the pitch we look terrible. We have no resolve, no urgency, no team dynamic, and even with 100 captains signed over the summer window NO F'ING LEADERS. So sick of watching second half collapses and missed opportunities.

So sick of convincing myself we're on the up. Just get your shit together, this is a big club and we're happy to be moving in the right direction with a draw at home to Forest? screw that.

[Nastylee]

Not going to panic just yet. This league is famed for teams coming from nowhere in the second half of the season. I don't think it will come to that though. I think that once we get a result or two things will click into place and we'll be pretty diffiult to contain. There's goals in this team once they get going, just need some midfielders that can put their foot in and not allow players to run unchallenged. GG and AW are too similar and should not be placed together unless all other options are exhausted.

[pauliewalnuts]

I just do not see what he thought he was doing in not shoring up the midfield (ie to actually give us one) when 2-1 up and 10 or so minutes to see out till victory.

Forest were utterly fucking awful, yet they've come away with a point. That is what has got to stop.

[Ads]

I'm not sure what people are talking leaders on the pitch for. That wasn't leadership, that was utter fucking idiocy from RDM.

[kipeye]

Absolutely gutted. Was going mental at 2-1, haven't celebrated like that since the semi-final two seasons ago, just to score two really quickly. And then they score the second of two unstoppable goals and gain the most unlikely point. We'll be ok this season when it does gel but at the moment Huddersfield and Newcastle look a long long way off catching. On another day we'd have scored a few more if not for the woodwork. Is it ok to say despite only one win i'm still  enjoying this season?

Of course it is.  I'm not enjoying it at all though.  6 points from 6 is shit, and we're a long way from being good enough.  Leaving aside Huddersfield, Newcastle are in the sort of groove that we just never, ever look like getting into.  Two games coming up where we should win them both, but almost certainly won't.

How could 17th in the Championship be enjoyable?!

Watching that was better than any of the shit last season. We will get a run of wins and start to really perform. I wouldn't swop this team for last year's and with the additions still to come in think RDM may have cracked it.

[markeeeebeeee2005]

Haven't seen it as working. I followed the BBC text.

Seemed like an exciting if disappointing game. Would I be right in saying Jedi and Tish are going to make a big difference?

[Concrete Tom]

Our luck must turn at some point. It's going to click eventually.

By far the better team upset by two crazy goals.

[Risso]

I just do not see what he thought he was doing in not shoring up the midfield (ie to actually give us one) when 2-1 up and 10 or so minutes to see out till victory.

Forest were utterly fucking awful, yet they've come away with a point. That is what has got to stop.

Indeed.  I watched the game, and couldn't tell you what formation or where the players were supposed to be for the last 15 minutes.  Then one half decent mazy run and we're behind.  Absolute rubbish from RDM.

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

I just do not see what he thought he was doing in not shoring up the midfield (ie to actually give us one) when 2-1 up and 10 or so minutes to see out till victory.

Forest were utterly fucking awful, yet they've come away with a point. That is what has got to stop.

I think he hoped we'd carry on playing how we did to go into the lead. If we'd carried on like that, we would've breezed it. For whatever reason, we stopped. That was the players.

[curiousorange]

I can't decide whether we're actually a good side or not. I think the defence is miles better than at any point over the last three or four seasons, yet it's as porous as our worst back line. Our midfield has so many better options, yet the manager chooses our indisputably worst two players to play in it. That forward line have created roughly a hundred decent opportunities in half a dozen games, about a quarter or which were on target, yet we barely see one go in the back of the net. It's like we've got all the constituent parts, but we've got an unreadable manual for it.

[pauliewalnuts]

I just do not see what he thought he was doing in not shoring up the midfield (ie to actually give us one) when 2-1 up and 10 or so minutes to see out till victory.

Forest were utterly fucking awful, yet they've come away with a point. That is what has got to stop.

I think he hoped we'd carry on playing how we did to go into the lead. If we'd carried on like that, we would've breezed it. For whatever reason, we stopped. That was the players.

But there was no reason to try to grab a third, we had ten minutes to see out, he should have strengthened in the middle and killed off the game. How many strikers did we have on the pitch at the end?

It struck me as asking for trouble, and the person who mentioned it having a whiff of Bradford about it was right.

[themossman]

I think we're done for his season, which is ridiculous.

Played well overall, the anticipated capitulation didn't happen but it made little difference expect for a point that does nothing for us.

Westwood and Gardner are garbage. Especially Gardner, who repeatedly turned attack into defence as he did for their first goal.

Cissokho played well, bailed jack out many times.

Ayew obviously does give a shit and is a level up on the rest.

Kodjia had a good debut.