Mile Jedinak - Released

[pauliewalnuts]

I remember liamthebaggie saying on here when we signed Lescott that his legs were going.

We just didn't realise his dignity had gone with them, too, the massive ******.

[Toronto Villa]

We're not signing him for the PL. We are signing him to help us in the league below and ultimately help change the culture of our club. He can't do it alone but players like him coming in along with the overall direction of the owner and manager will help with setting the future direction.

[sickbeggar]

I think I'll put pardew's judgment at around the same level as that of palace fans on message boards and watch jedinak play a few games for us before I decide if this is a good deal.

Well he's no mug, even if his football is shite. Anyway perhaps with the money sloshing around in the premier, he believe's he can afford to sell a player still capable of doing it in the premiership when he can spend 20m on a replacement?

[Rudy Can't Fail]

We're not signing him for the PL. We are signing him to help us in the league below and ultimately help change the culture of our club. He can't do it alone but players like him coming in along with the overall direction of the owner and manager will help with setting the future direction.

When we get back next season.. and we will, he'll be essential to us surviving that first season. If that ain't £4m then I don't know what is.

[sickbeggar]

True but think the biggest factor with lescott was that he didn't/doesn't give a shit, rather than the legs going.

I think the opposite. He knew he was shit and nothing could change it. Jedinak is neither shit nor have his legs gone. We may need to sub him on 75 minutes to save his legs with so many games this season but what important 75 minutes those will be.

The other really important thing for me is what a brilliant mentor he will be for our younger players. He could be the making of Tshibola.

yep. Good point

[croatian]

I think he'll be our most important signing of the season, a big bastard in midfield with a great beard is what we've been missing, Aussies attitude, esoecially when it comes to sport, is usually spot on  too.

Yep. With an uncompromising serbian, Croatian, Bosnian background.
He'll be absolutely fine for us.

[Havencheese]

bit of a rip-off paying 4m for a 32 year old in the last year of his contract. Just hope he's not injury prone/past it

We need a short term fix or two to get us up! And £4m is a bargain for a player of his quality anyway.

if he's fit and his legs haven't gone yeah. looking at his career you wonder why he got to 27 only playing 200 games

Have you the right player? He is 32 and played almost 400 games. He was also virtually an ever present for two season for palace a couple of season ago and made 34 appearances last season.

If you are talking about before his England debut, you do realise they play less games in Australia?

Look at his record. half his games are since he signed for palace at 27. That bodes well i guess but he's the same age as Lescott was this time last year and he was shot to pieces when we bought him. I just hope we've not been mugged off again

Well given his age, just under half his games coming from the age of 27 is about right, better than only 10% of them.

Have you looked at his career?

Slow start before establishing himself with Sydney in Oz 82 Appearances in 6 years, most of which came in the last 2.
53 appearances in 3 seasons for Central Coast Mariners in the Aussie A-league
41 appearances in 3 seasons in Turkey
177 appearances in the last 5 seasons for Palace.

Hardly someone who's falling apart at the seams?

He started his career at Sydney United (originally Sydney Croatia) in our old NSL competition, which was disbanded in the mid 2000's and replaced by the newly structured A-League. The NSL had clubs that had clung to their ethnic origins, therefore creating some heated tensions, nasty derbies, excluding a wider public appeal. The clubs produced talent but were run probably closer to that of semi professional league standard it was a slightly shorter season than the current A-League system. Hence why Jedinak had probably not made as many appearances by his late 20's, although he did have a couple of seasons at CCM in the new national competition.

From memory his career took off slowly and as a player has never been as fashionable as Tim Cahill. Captained the national team that won the Asia Cup a year ago. Hard as a cat's head, exactly what we need in midfield.

[themossman]

Yeah that seems the likeliest situation. Palace are a decent PL team. We need to be a decent championship team and that's in the balance currently, so this may be a genuine win-win.

[themossman]

True but think the biggest factor with lescott was that he didn't/doesn't give a shit, rather than the legs going.

I think the opposite. He knew he was shit and nothing could change it. Jedinak is neither shit nor have his legs gone. We may need to sub him on 75 minutes to save his legs with so many games this season but what important 75 minutes those will be.

The other really important thing for me is what a brilliant mentor he will be for our younger players. He could be the making of Tshibola.

yep. Good point

Chicken and egg isn't it can't help but feel that if lescott didn't consider joining us it such a step down he would have looked after himself more and played with a better attitude.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

True but think the biggest factor with lescott was that he didn't/doesn't give a shit, rather than the legs going.

I think the opposite. He knew he was shit and nothing could change it. Jedinak is neither shit nor have his legs gone. We may need to sub him on 75 minutes to save his legs with so many games this season but what important 75 minutes those will be.

The other really important thing for me is what a brilliant mentor he will be for our younger players. He could be the making of Tshibola.

yep. Good point

Chicken and egg isn't it can't help but feel that if lescott didn't consider joining us it such a step down he would have looked after himself more and played with a better attitude.

There was a massive gulf in attitude between Lescott's and say Richards' attitude. Lescott knew his legs were gone. Richards was as fit as a butcher's dog but couldn't be arsed.

[themossman]

True but think the biggest factor with lescott was that he didn't/doesn't give a shit, rather than the legs going.

I think the opposite. He knew he was shit and nothing could change it. Jedinak is neither shit nor have his legs gone. We may need to sub him on 75 minutes to save his legs with so many games this season but what important 75 minutes those will be.

The other really important thing for me is what a brilliant mentor he will be for our younger players. He could be the making of Tshibola.

yep. Good point

Chicken and egg isn't it can't help but feel that if lescott didn't consider joining us it such a step down he would have looked after himself more and played with a better attitude.

There was a massive gulf in attitude between Lescott's and say Richards' attitude. Lescott knew his legs were gone. Richards was as fit as a butcher's dog but couldn't be arsed.

Fair enough. We're essentially making inferences about things that can't be proven either way. My point is that if jedinak's legs are going (based on not much) then that still doesn't mean he's going to be another lescott, because there are clearly other factors at play. It's a pretty meaningless comparison.

[Hoppo]

If anyone has a spare 15 minutes go and read Holmsdale.net and see what the Palace fans think of him.                                      They are devastated to be loosing him.    He sounds exactly what we've been lacking for years.

[croatian]

bit of a rip-off paying 4m for a 32 year old in the last year of his contract. Just hope he's not injury prone/past it

We need a short term fix or two to get us up! And £4m is a bargain for a player of his quality anyway.

if he's fit and his legs haven't gone yeah. looking at his career you wonder why he got to 27 only playing 200 games

Have you the right player? He is 32 and played almost 400 games. He was also virtually an ever present for two season for palace a couple of season ago and made 34 appearances last season.

If you are talking about before his England debut, you do realise they play less games in Australia?

Look at his record. half his games are since he signed for palace at 27. That bodes well i guess but he's the same age as Lescott was this time last year and he was shot to pieces when we bought him. I just hope we've not been mugged off again

Well given his age, just under half his games coming from the age of 27 is about right, better than only 10% of them.

Have you looked at his career?

Slow start before establishing himself with Sydney in Oz 82 Appearances in 6 years, most of which came in the last 2.
53 appearances in 3 seasons for Central Coast Mariners in the Aussie A-league
41 appearances in 3 seasons in Turkey
177 appearances in the last 5 seasons for Palace.

Hardly someone who's falling apart at the seams?

He started his career at Sydney United (originally Sydney Croatia) in our old NSL competition, which was disbanded in the mid 2000's and replaced by the newly structured A-League. The NSL had clubs that had clung to their ethnic origins, therefore creating some heated tensions, nasty derbies, excluding a wider public appeal. The clubs produced talent but were run probably closer to that of semi professional league standard it was a slightly shorter season than the current A-League system. Hence why Jedinak had probably not made as many appearances by his late 20's, although he did have a couple of seasons at CCM in the new national competition.

From memory his career took off slowly and as a player has never been as fashionable as Tim Cahill. Captained the national team that won the Asia Cup a year ago. Hard as a cat's head, exactly what we need in midfield.
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Agreed. He'll be a cracking signing.  Australia in the late 70's and 80's football wise you either belonged to a serbian, Croatian or Greek club. Very tribal it was. Very Insular. Remember Marko viduka? Australian born international? His Croatian was far better than his english! I knew frank pimblett, ex villa, who played for Brisbane lions, I remember him telling me that he hated playing against "those big Slav bastards"
That'll do for me.

[olaftab]

OK a couple of questions for those who know:
Was he in the Palace team that we beat last season at VP?
Was he a regular in their team  in the last dozen or so games  when they lost almost all of them and nearly got relegated?

[Somniloquism]

OK a couple of questions for those who know:
Was he in the Palace team that we beat last season at VP?
Was he a regular in their team  in the last dozen or so games  when they lost almost all of them and nearly got relegated?

No
Yes