Isn't he in the last year of his contract ? £4m is pretty lumpy if so.Didn't we sell Ashley Ypung for around 12 million in his last year a few years back.
How's his first name pronounced ?
How's his first name pronounced ?
Like Miles without the s I suppose.
How's his first name pronounced ?
Stop worrying about transfer fees and sell on fees.. trust The Dr..
Stop worrying about transfer fees and sell on fees.. trust The Dr..
Stop worrying about transfer fees and sell on fees.. trust The Dr..
I seem to recall this thinking under Randy when we were splashing the cash
Isn't he in the last year of his contract ? £4m is pretty lumpy if so.
Isn't he in the last year of his contract ? £4m is pretty lumpy if so.
£4m is peanuts in today's transfer world. £100m for Pogba???
Stop worrying about transfer fees and sell on fees.. trust The Dr..
I seem to recall this thinking under Randy when we were splashing the cash
I didn't like to say...
Isn't he in the last year of his contract ? £4m is pretty lumpy if so.
£4m is peanuts in today's transfer world. £100m for Pogba???
A fighter, and we need fighters.
Stop worrying about transfer fees and sell on fees.. trust The Dr..Good point well made
Stop worrying about transfer fees and sell on fees.. trust The Dr..
I'm only worried because of FFP. Or does that only take wages into account?
Why doesn't Pardew want him?
Another leader. We've gone from 0 last season to having 4 or 5 of them. Pricey but exactly what we need.We have paid a premium on players this window. Though saying that when you look at the fees for Stones and Bolasie in particular, it's just the way the game is.
Looks a bloody good signing and exactly what we need. Just hope we don't have any visa 'issues' again.
Wanted him for about 18 months now. Delighted. Exactly what we need. I dare Gabby and the like to step out of line with Mile and Tommy about. He will get a pasting.
The last minute goal in the home game against Tranmere to take us into extra time will stay with me for ever.You can post this wherever and as many times as you like SV. We will remember forever.
(Somehow posted on the wrong thread... 😖)
Wanted him for about 18 months now. Delighted. Exactly what we need. I dare Gabby and the like to step out of line with Mile and Tommy about. He will get a pasting.
I think this is a really important point. We need players that won't allow other players to get away with coasting. No more of that shit here.
Out of interest how many of Lambert's players will now be in the 1st team? Sissokho? Grealish? Anyone else?
Out of interest how many of Lambert's players will now be in the 1st team? Sissokho? Grealish? Anyone else?
Unless he moves I'd still expect Westwood to get his fair share of minutes.
I'd also expect Amavi to take his place at left-back before too long.
Out of interest how many of Lambert's players will now be in the 1st team? Sissokho? Grealish? Anyone else?
Unless he moves I'd still expect Westwood to get his fair share of minutes.
I'd also expect Amavi to take his place at left-back before too long.
Amavi was Sherwood. Or Paddy with Sherwood as manager.
Brilliant signing, captain? or will that stay with Elphick?
bit of a rip-off paying 4m for a 32 year old in the last year of his contract. Just hope he's not injury prone/past it
bit of a rip-off paying 4m for a 32 year old in the last year of his contract. Just hope he's not injury prone/past it
We need a short term fix or two to get us up! And £4m is a bargain for a player of his quality anyway.
Brilliant signing, captain? or will that stay with Elphick?
bit of a rip-off paying 4m for a 32 year old in the last year of his contract. Just hope he's not injury prone/past it
We need a short term fix or two to get us up! And £4m is a bargain for a player of his quality anyway.
if he's fit and his legs haven't gone yeah. looking at his career you wonder why he got to 27 only playing 200 games
bit of a rip-off paying 4m for a 32 year old in the last year of his contract. Just hope he's not injury prone/past it
One of those you hate when he plays for someone else and hopefully love when he plays for you. We've needed one of those for years now.As brian green said last week: we need a couple of bastards!
bit of a rip-off paying 4m for a 32 year old in the last year of his contract. Just hope he's not injury prone/past it
We need a short term fix or two to get us up! And £4m is a bargain for a player of his quality anyway.
if he's fit and his legs haven't gone yeah. looking at his career you wonder why he got to 27 only playing 200 games
Have you the right player? He is 32 and played almost 400 games. He was also virtually an ever present for two season for palace a couple of season ago and made 34 appearances last season.
If you are talking about before his England debut, you do realise they play less games in Australia?
bit of a rip-off paying 4m for a 32 year old in the last year of his contract. Just hope he's not injury prone/past it
We need a short term fix or two to get us up! And £4m is a bargain for a player of his quality anyway.
if he's fit and his legs haven't gone yeah. looking at his career you wonder why he got to 27 only playing 200 games
Have you the right player? He is 32 and played almost 400 games. He was also virtually an ever present for two season for palace a couple of season ago and made 34 appearances last season.
If you are talking about before his England debut, you do realise they play less games in Australia?
Look at his record. half his games are since he signed for palace at 27. That bodes well i guess but he's the same age as Lescott was this time last year and he was shot to pieces when we bought him. I just hope we've not been mugged off again
Jedinak gives me a new hope.
bit of a rip-off paying 4m for a 32 year old in the last year of his contract. Just hope he's not injury prone/past it
We need a short term fix or two to get us up! And £4m is a bargain for a player of his quality anyway.
if he's fit and his legs haven't gone yeah. looking at his career you wonder why he got to 27 only playing 200 games
Have you the right player? He is 32 and played almost 400 games. He was also virtually an ever present for two season for palace a couple of season ago and made 34 appearances last season.
If you are talking about before his England debut, you do realise they play less games in Australia?
Look at his record. half his games are since he signed for palace at 27. That bodes well i guess but he's the same age as Lescott was this time last year and he was shot to pieces when we bought him. I just hope we've not been mugged off again
Well given his age, just under half his games coming from the age of 27 is about right, better than only 10% of them.
Have you looked at his career?
Slow start before establishing himself with Sydney in Oz 82 Appearances in 6 years, most of which came in the last 2.
53 appearances in 3 seasons for Central Coast Mariners in the Aussie A-league
41 appearances in 3 seasons in Turkey
177 appearances in the last 5 seasons for Palace.
Hardly someone who's falling apart at the seams?
Jedinak gives me a new hope.
Maybe he'll reduce Westwood to a phantom menace?
Jedinak gives me a new hope.
Maybe he'll reduce Westwood to a phantom menace?
bit of a rip-off paying 4m for a 32 year old in the last year of his contract. Just hope he's not injury prone/past it
We need a short term fix or two to get us up! And £4m is a bargain for a player of his quality anyway.
if he's fit and his legs haven't gone yeah. looking at his career you wonder why he got to 27 only playing 200 games
Have you the right player? He is 32 and played almost 400 games. He was also virtually an ever present for two season for palace a couple of season ago and made 34 appearances last season.
If you are talking about before his England debut, you do realise they play less games in Australia?
Look at his record. half his games are since he signed for palace at 27. That bodes well i guess but he's the same age as Lescott was this time last year and he was shot to pieces when we bought him. I just hope we've not been mugged off again
Well given his age, just under half his games coming from the age of 27 is about right, better than only 10% of them.
Have you looked at his career?
Slow start before establishing himself with Sydney in Oz 82 Appearances in 6 years, most of which came in the last 2.
53 appearances in 3 seasons for Central Coast Mariners in the Aussie A-league
41 appearances in 3 seasons in Turkey
177 appearances in the last 5 seasons for Palace.
Hardly someone who's falling apart at the seams?
well yes, i was wondering 17 games a season is not many. Was he injured? Mebbe that's all they play? 13 a season in turkey? Again not picked or injured. He's obviously picked up at palace, it just worries me that there's not many 32+ year old midfielders in the premiership, a few more where we are but still. I realise the transfer market has gone banana's but 4m seems steep
bit of a rip-off paying 4m for a 32 year old in the last year of his contract. Just hope he's not injury prone/past it
We need a short term fix or two to get us up! And £4m is a bargain for a player of his quality anyway.
if he's fit and his legs haven't gone yeah. looking at his career you wonder why he got to 27 only playing 200 games
Have you the right player? He is 32 and played almost 400 games. He was also virtually an ever present for two season for palace a couple of season ago and made 34 appearances last season.
If you are talking about before his England debut, you do realise they play less games in Australia?
Look at his record. half his games are since he signed for palace at 27. That bodes well i guess but he's the same age as Lescott was this time last year and he was shot to pieces when we bought him. I just hope we've not been mugged off again
bit of a rip-off paying 4m for a 32 year old in the last year of his contract. Just hope he's not injury prone/past it
We need a short term fix or two to get us up! And £4m is a bargain for a player of his quality anyway.
if he's fit and his legs haven't gone yeah. looking at his career you wonder why he got to 27 only playing 200 games
Have you the right player? He is 32 and played almost 400 games. He was also virtually an ever present for two season for palace a couple of season ago and made 34 appearances last season.
If you are talking about before his England debut, you do realise they play less games in Australia?
Look at his record. half his games are since he signed for palace at 27. That bodes well i guess but he's the same age as Lescott was this time last year and he was shot to pieces when we bought him. I just hope we've not been mugged off again
Well given his age, just under half his games coming from the age of 27 is about right, better than only 10% of them.
Have you looked at his career?
Slow start before establishing himself with Sydney in Oz 82 Appearances in 6 years, most of which came in the last 2.
53 appearances in 3 seasons for Central Coast Mariners in the Aussie A-league
41 appearances in 3 seasons in Turkey
177 appearances in the last 5 seasons for Palace.
Hardly someone who's falling apart at the seams?
well yes, i was wondering 17 games a season is not many. Was he injured? Mebbe that's all they play? 13 a season in turkey? Again not picked or injured. He's obviously picked up at palace, it just worries me that there's not many 32+ year old midfielders in the premiership, a few more where we are but still. I realise the transfer market has gone banana's but 4m seems steep
I think it's a case of not picked. Particularly in Turkey it's not unheard for foreign signings to not settle / fall victim to 5 managers before Christmas syndrome. Other than that he was building his career in Oz or playing the vast majority of Palace's games.
To be honest if he gets us promoted by playing an important role in 10 or 12 key games for us, then it's money well spent, even if his "minutes played" stats look shite.
He'll be able to provide us with some force in midfield. Good mind games with the opposition too...
Parker (there are other examples) showing that a player can boss games in the championship for a few years after they have shot their PL bolt.
bit of a rip-off paying 4m for a 32 year old in the last year of his contract. Just hope he's not injury prone/past it
We need a short term fix or two to get us up! And £4m is a bargain for a player of his quality anyway.
if he's fit and his legs haven't gone yeah. looking at his career you wonder why he got to 27 only playing 200 games
Have you the right player? He is 32 and played almost 400 games. He was also virtually an ever present for two season for palace a couple of season ago and made 34 appearances last season.
If you are talking about before his England debut, you do realise they play less games in Australia?
Look at his record. half his games are since he signed for palace at 27. That bodes well i guess but he's the same age as Lescott was this time last year and he was shot to pieces when we bought him. I just hope we've not been mugged off again
Well given his age, just under half his games coming from the age of 27 is about right, better than only 10% of them.
Have you looked at his career?
Slow start before establishing himself with Sydney in Oz 82 Appearances in 6 years, most of which came in the last 2.
53 appearances in 3 seasons for Central Coast Mariners in the Aussie A-league
41 appearances in 3 seasons in Turkey
177 appearances in the last 5 seasons for Palace.
Hardly someone who's falling apart at the seams?
well yes, i was wondering 17 games a season is not many. Was he injured? Mebbe that's all they play? 13 a season in turkey? Again not picked or injured. He's obviously picked up at palace, it just worries me that there's not many 32+ year old midfielders in the premiership, a few more where we are but still. I realise the transfer market has gone banana's but 4m seems steep
I think it's a case of not picked. Particularly in Turkey it's not unheard for foreign signings to not settle / fall victim to 5 managers before Christmas syndrome. Other than that he was building his career in Oz or playing the vast majority of Palace's games.
To be honest if he gets us promoted by playing an important role in 10 or 12 key games for us, then it's money well spent, even if his "minutes played" stats look shite.
well, yeah, if we get jedinak from his time at palace i don't think anyone will complain. If he's been shifted because he's shot his bolt, and they're cashing in, well........
Parker (there are other examples) showing that a player can boss games in the championship for a few years after they have shot their PL bolt.
yeah there is, just not that many. The problem is you just don't know if he'll do a job till 35 or that's it. Again Lescott, praised all through his last season for the barcodes, totally gone legswise when he turned up here. They knew...
bit of a rip-off paying 4m for a 32 year old in the last year of his contract. Just hope he's not injury prone/past it
We need a short term fix or two to get us up! And £4m is a bargain for a player of his quality anyway.
if he's fit and his legs haven't gone yeah. looking at his career you wonder why he got to 27 only playing 200 games
Have you the right player? He is 32 and played almost 400 games. He was also virtually an ever present for two season for palace a couple of season ago and made 34 appearances last season.
If you are talking about before his England debut, you do realise they play less games in Australia?
Look at his record. half his games are since he signed for palace at 27. That bodes well i guess but he's the same age as Lescott was this time last year and he was shot to pieces when we bought him. I just hope we've not been mugged off again
Well given his age, just under half his games coming from the age of 27 is about right, better than only 10% of them.
Have you looked at his career?
Slow start before establishing himself with Sydney in Oz 82 Appearances in 6 years, most of which came in the last 2.
53 appearances in 3 seasons for Central Coast Mariners in the Aussie A-league
41 appearances in 3 seasons in Turkey
177 appearances in the last 5 seasons for Palace.
Hardly someone who's falling apart at the seams?
well yes, i was wondering 17 games a season is not many. Was he injured? Mebbe that's all they play? 13 a season in turkey? Again not picked or injured. He's obviously picked up at palace, it just worries me that there's not many 32+ year old midfielders in the premiership, a few more where we are but still. I realise the transfer market has gone banana's but 4m seems steep
I think it's a case of not picked. Particularly in Turkey it's not unheard for foreign signings to not settle / fall victim to 5 managers before Christmas syndrome. Other than that he was building his career in Oz or playing the vast majority of Palace's games.
To be honest if he gets us promoted by playing an important role in 10 or 12 key games for us, then it's money well spent, even if his "minutes played" stats look shite.
well, yeah, if we get jedinak from his time at palace i don't think anyone will complain. If he's been shifted because he's shot his bolt, and they're cashing in, well........
Just go on there forum for 5 minutes, this is not a player that has 'shot his bolt', the majority want him to stay and are questioning Padews judgement.
True but think the biggest factor with lescott was that he didn't/doesn't give a shit, rather than the legs going.
I remember liamthebaggie saying on here when we signed Lescott that his legs were going.
I think I'll put pardew's judgment at around the same level as that of palace fans on message boards and watch jedinak play a few games for us before I decide if this is a good deal.
We're not signing him for the PL. We are signing him to help us in the league below and ultimately help change the culture of our club. He can't do it alone but players like him coming in along with the overall direction of the owner and manager will help with setting the future direction.
True but think the biggest factor with lescott was that he didn't/doesn't give a shit, rather than the legs going.
I think the opposite. He knew he was shit and nothing could change it. Jedinak is neither shit nor have his legs gone. We may need to sub him on 75 minutes to save his legs with so many games this season but what important 75 minutes those will be.
The other really important thing for me is what a brilliant mentor he will be for our younger players. He could be the making of Tshibola.
I think he'll be our most important signing of the season, a big bastard in midfield with a great beard is what we've been missing, Aussies attitude, esoecially when it comes to sport, is usually spot on too.Yep. With an uncompromising serbian, Croatian, Bosnian background.
bit of a rip-off paying 4m for a 32 year old in the last year of his contract. Just hope he's not injury prone/past it
We need a short term fix or two to get us up! And £4m is a bargain for a player of his quality anyway.
if he's fit and his legs haven't gone yeah. looking at his career you wonder why he got to 27 only playing 200 games
Have you the right player? He is 32 and played almost 400 games. He was also virtually an ever present for two season for palace a couple of season ago and made 34 appearances last season.
If you are talking about before his England debut, you do realise they play less games in Australia?
Look at his record. half his games are since he signed for palace at 27. That bodes well i guess but he's the same age as Lescott was this time last year and he was shot to pieces when we bought him. I just hope we've not been mugged off again
Well given his age, just under half his games coming from the age of 27 is about right, better than only 10% of them.
Have you looked at his career?
Slow start before establishing himself with Sydney in Oz 82 Appearances in 6 years, most of which came in the last 2.
53 appearances in 3 seasons for Central Coast Mariners in the Aussie A-league
41 appearances in 3 seasons in Turkey
177 appearances in the last 5 seasons for Palace.
Hardly someone who's falling apart at the seams?
True but think the biggest factor with lescott was that he didn't/doesn't give a shit, rather than the legs going.
I think the opposite. He knew he was shit and nothing could change it. Jedinak is neither shit nor have his legs gone. We may need to sub him on 75 minutes to save his legs with so many games this season but what important 75 minutes those will be.
The other really important thing for me is what a brilliant mentor he will be for our younger players. He could be the making of Tshibola.
yep. Good point
True but think the biggest factor with lescott was that he didn't/doesn't give a shit, rather than the legs going.
I think the opposite. He knew he was shit and nothing could change it. Jedinak is neither shit nor have his legs gone. We may need to sub him on 75 minutes to save his legs with so many games this season but what important 75 minutes those will be.
The other really important thing for me is what a brilliant mentor he will be for our younger players. He could be the making of Tshibola.
yep. Good point
Chicken and egg isn't it can't help but feel that if lescott didn't consider joining us it such a step down he would have looked after himself more and played with a better attitude.
True but think the biggest factor with lescott was that he didn't/doesn't give a shit, rather than the legs going.
I think the opposite. He knew he was shit and nothing could change it. Jedinak is neither shit nor have his legs gone. We may need to sub him on 75 minutes to save his legs with so many games this season but what important 75 minutes those will be.
The other really important thing for me is what a brilliant mentor he will be for our younger players. He could be the making of Tshibola.
yep. Good point
Chicken and egg isn't it can't help but feel that if lescott didn't consider joining us it such a step down he would have looked after himself more and played with a better attitude.
There was a massive gulf in attitude between Lescott's and say Richards' attitude. Lescott knew his legs were gone. Richards was as fit as a butcher's dog but couldn't be arsed.
bit of a rip-off paying 4m for a 32 year old in the last year of his contract. Just hope he's not injury prone/past it
We need a short term fix or two to get us up! And £4m is a bargain for a player of his quality anyway.
if he's fit and his legs haven't gone yeah. looking at his career you wonder why he got to 27 only playing 200 games
Have you the right player? He is 32 and played almost 400 games. He was also virtually an ever present for two season for palace a couple of season ago and made 34 appearances last season.
If you are talking about before his England debut, you do realise they play less games in Australia?
Look at his record. half his games are since he signed for palace at 27. That bodes well i guess but he's the same age as Lescott was this time last year and he was shot to pieces when we bought him. I just hope we've not been mugged off again
Well given his age, just under half his games coming from the age of 27 is about right, better than only 10% of them.
Have you looked at his career?
Slow start before establishing himself with Sydney in Oz 82 Appearances in 6 years, most of which came in the last 2.
53 appearances in 3 seasons for Central Coast Mariners in the Aussie A-league
41 appearances in 3 seasons in Turkey
177 appearances in the last 5 seasons for Palace.
Hardly someone who's falling apart at the seams?
He started his career at Sydney United (originally Sydney Croatia) in our old NSL competition, which was disbanded in the mid 2000's and replaced by the newly structured A-League. The NSL had clubs that had clung to their ethnic origins, therefore creating some heated tensions, nasty derbies, excluding a wider public appeal. The clubs produced talent but were run probably closer to that of semi professional league standard it was a slightly shorter season than the current A-League system. Hence why Jedinak had probably not made as many appearances by his late 20's, although he did have a couple of seasons at CCM in the new national competition.
From memory his career took off slowly and as a player has never been as fashionable as Tim Cahill. Captained the national team that won the Asia Cup a year ago. Hard as a cat's head, exactly what we need in midfield.
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Agreed. He'll be a cracking signing. Australia in the late 70's and 80's football wise you either belonged to a serbian, Croatian or Greek club. Very tribal it was. Very Insular. Remember Marko viduka? Australian born international? His Croatian was far better than his english! I knew frank pimblett, ex villa, who played for Brisbane lions, I remember him telling me that he hated playing against "those big Slav bastards"
That'll do for me.
OK a couple of questions for those who know:
Was he in the Palace team that we beat last season at VP?
Was he a regular in their team in the last dozen or so games when they lost almost all of them and nearly got relegated?
Is he pronounced Mile, Miley, Me-lay or something else?
Agreed. He'll be a cracking signing. Australia in the late 70's and 80's football wise you either belonged to a serbian, Croatian or Greek club. Very tribal it was. Very Insular. Remember Marko viduka? Australian born international? His Croatian was far better than his english! I knew frank pimblett, ex villa, who played for Brisbane lions, I remember him telling me that he hated playing against "those big Slav bastards"Haven't heard the name Frank Pimblett in years. Viduka's command of the English language hasn't always been the best but he's a funny knockabout sort of bloke.
That'll do for me.
With new signings it's as much about whether they complement what we've got as how good they are. Jedinak feels to me like precisely the profile of player we need given we have a lot of young, mercurial creative talent in the middle and nobody to do the dirty work to allow them to do what they do best.
With new signings it's as much about whether they complement what we've got as how good they are. Jedinak feels to me like precisely the profile of player we need given we have a lot of young, mercurial creative talent in the middle and nobody to do the dirty work to allow them to do what they do best.
With new signings it's as much about whether they complement what we've got as how good they are. Jedinak feels to me like precisely the profile of player we need given we have a lot of young, mercurial creative talent in the middle and nobody to do the dirty work to allow them to do what they do best.
Spot on. He'll also set a good example to the likes of Tshibola and hopefully, the kid from Bologna (sorry, can't be a***d to look up spelling), who will have similar roles.
His skills are actually quite decent compared to detestable Aussie hardmen like Tiato or Muscat. The Aussie system is now based on a pass and move game and he fits into that very well. He gets into the box to support while covering ground well enough defensively. He isn't a dirty player but does play on the edge a bit and will pick up yellows from aggression. He takes good penalties and he'd be a threat from set pieces both shooting on goal and in the air. I've really only watched his games in the green and gold but the reports from Palace fans marry up with my personal perceptions.
BFR always said the hardest bit of his job was knowing when to move players on when their legs were starting to go. Sounds like a good move for both parties - Palace get a decent fee and we get a no nonsense presence in the middle who can probably cut it for a couple of years in this league.
Isn't he in the last year of his contract ? £4m is pretty lumpy if so.
£4m is peanuts in today's transfer world. £100m for Pogba???
There's so much wrong with that comparison that I don't know where to start! Age? Ability?? Resale value?? Shirt Sales??? Man Utd's revenue vs Ours?!
Hopefully he can bring this passion to every match and inspire (or frighten away) some of his teammates:Here comes the Jedinak
(http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/67/590x/mile-jedinak-539425.jpg)
Isn't he in the last year of his contract ? £4m is pretty lumpy if so.
£4m is peanuts in today's transfer world. £100m for Pogba???
There's so much wrong with that comparison that I don't know where to start! Age? Ability?? Resale value?? Shirt Sales??? Man Utd's revenue vs Ours?!
Not really a comparison and more a comment on inflated fees in general I would suggest.
His skills are actually quite decent compared to detestable Aussie hardmen like Tiato or Muscat. The Aussie system is now based on a pass and move game and he fits into that very well. He gets into the box to support while covering ground well enough defensively. He isn't a dirty player but does play on the edge a bit and will pick up yellows from aggression. He takes good penalties and he'd be a threat from set pieces both shooting on goal and in the air. I've really only watched his games in the green and gold but the reports from Palace fans marry up with my personal perceptions.
Isn't he in the last year of his contract ? £4m is pretty lumpy if so.
£4m is peanuts in today's transfer world. £100m for Pogba???
There's so much wrong with that comparison that I don't know where to start! Age? Ability?? Resale value?? Shirt Sales??? Man Utd's revenue vs Ours?!
Not really a comparison and more a comment on inflated fees in general I would suggest.
Quite. As in £100M for anyone is beyond ridiculous. Compared to that £4M for someone who should make a positive contribution and not just on the pitch is peanuts in comparison.
Even if he struggles with fitness and only manages 12-15 games, if they're the games when we need someone with some mental fortitude as well as physical presence to get us over the line, he's worth double that and then some. Because it was a lack of mental strength last season that did for us as much as lack of ability.
Absolutely. Rotherhams record transfer fee is £500k. We spent 40 times that on our last two signings!
Looks like the red tape bureaucratic jobsworths are delaying things over the visa work permit. Jedinak is contracted to Palace until 2017, so I presume his current permit is valid for at least another 12 months and just needs an extension? Or is that too simple?
I'm happy with this signing. He's better than what we have and will immediately improve the team. I'd agree he's over priced for his age though but hey ho. We need to do whatever we can to get promoted at the earliest opportunity. If he can help with that then it's money well spent.
Looking at the poll here : Croydon Advertiser (http://www.croydonadvertiser.co.uk/mile-jedinak-s-move-to-aston-villa-delayed-from-crystal-palace/story-29624157-detail/story.html) - 81% of Palace fans who have voted so far want to keep him.
Twitter post with photo of him arriving at VP:
https://twitter.com/JoshFryer_/status/765600618929061888/photo/1
Absolutely. Rotherhams record transfer fee is £500k. We spent 40 times that on our last two signings!
Or to continue PWS's Burton train of thought - the piddly little £4m irrelevance that Jedinak is going to cost is more than twice as much as Burton have spent on transfers in their history.
Yes. Ciaran Clark is six years younger and with (I think) longer to go on his contract.I'm happy with this signing. He's better than what we have and will immediately improve the team. I'd agree he's over priced for his age though but hey ho. We need to do whatever we can to get promoted at the earliest opportunity. If he can help with that then it's money well spent.
Looking at the poll here : Croydon Advertiser (http://www.croydonadvertiser.co.uk/mile-jedinak-s-move-to-aston-villa-delayed-from-crystal-palace/story-29624157-detail/story.html) - 81% of Palace fans who have voted so far want to keep him.
Is £4m a hefty price in an age when Ciaran Clark went for over £5m?
I think we definitely need someone who can calm that space in front of defenders down. It's been a weakness for years and a constant source of late panicky goals conceded. My heart sank when Gardner came on.
No need to get shirty. I was offering a contrasting view to yours which from my understanding doesn't carry much credibility after the way you talk up some real duds in the transfer thread. I don't post much because I don't feel my opinion is too often needed when there are plenty who can speak it for me without me having to say it, but when it comes to my countrymen's performances I feel I can offer some expertise as a sports journalist and producer in Australia. Objectivity is a professional requirement and as such I try to check my bias at the door - for example: I wasn't very complimentary of Holman in advance of his signing despite how well he had performed in the green and gold.
I have seen some real cloggers and dirty players come out of Australia but in my opinion Jedinak is not one of them. He had one out of character suspension for violent conduct - which isn't a hanging expense - but otherwise he has had one red card and only 16 yellows in the last 3 seasons and 90 appearances that's just a little more than one in 6 games which is very good for a combative midfielder.
I really don't get the problem with the Visa work permit. I presume he has a permit until his contract at Palace runs out in 2017? He's played here for 5 years, is a full international. You see unheard of foreign players signing for clubs at 11.55pm on 'deadline day', and they're eligible pretty much straightaway. Why is it Villa with these problems? Look at the goalkeeper we tried to sign last January, which turned into a fiasco.
I hope this bloke is as good as everybody seems to think he is, if you'd asked me three weeks ago what position he played I'd have guessed centre half. That's how much I know about him. Is he a hipster?
I hope this bloke is as good as everybody seems to think he is, if you'd asked me three weeks ago what position he played I'd have guessed centre half. That's how much I know about him. Is he a hipster?
He doesn't own a single plate.
I hope this bloke is as good as everybody seems to think he is, if you'd asked me three weeks ago what position he played I'd have guessed centre half. That's how much I know about him. Is he a hipster?
He doesn't own a single plate.
I hear that he's had his converted warehouse in Peckham done out entirely like Kevin Muscat's 1991 Croydon gaff entirely for reasons of irony. Got Mrs M in to go to DFS and allsorts, I heard. Parks his segway in the disabled spaces to make a statement about consumerism too, apparently.
If his Instagram's anything to go by though, he had a lovely dinner this evening.
I hope this bloke is as good as everybody seems to think he is, if you'd asked me three weeks ago what position he played I'd have guessed centre half. That's how much I know about him. Is he a hipster?
He doesn't own a single plate.
I hear that he's had his converted warehouse in Peckham done out entirely like Kevin Muscat's 1991 Croydon gaff entirely for reasons of irony. Got Mrs M in to go to DFS and allsorts, I heard. Parks his segway in the disabled spaces to make a statement about consumerism too, apparently.
If his Instagram's anything to go by though, he had a lovely dinner this evening.
Coco Pops on Toast with a side of Ready Brek?
I'm hearing he will be choosing his company Pennyfarthing in the morning, the image rights bunce from the beard wax endorsement is all going offshore.
I hope this bloke is as good as everybody seems to think he is, if you'd asked me three weeks ago what position he played I'd have guessed centre half. That's how much I know about him. Is he a hipster?
He doesn't own a single plate.
I hear that he's had his converted warehouse in Peckham done out entirely like Kevin Muscat's 1991 Croydon gaff entirely for reasons of irony. Got Mrs M in to go to DFS and allsorts, I heard. Parks his segway in the disabled spaces to make a statement about consumerism too, apparently.
If his Instagram's anything to go by though, he had a lovely dinner this evening.
Coco Pops on Toast with a side of Ready Brek?
Pulled Coco Pops on a bed of 'Brek. It's not 2014, VID.
I hope this bloke is as good as everybody seems to think he is, if you'd asked me three weeks ago what position he played I'd have guessed centre half. That's how much I know about him. Is he a hipster?
He doesn't own a single plate.
I hear that he's had his converted warehouse in Peckham done out entirely like Kevin Muscat's 1991 Croydon gaff entirely for reasons of irony. Got Mrs M in to go to DFS and allsorts, I heard. Parks his segway in the disabled spaces to make a statement about consumerism too, apparently.
If his Instagram's anything to go by though, he had a lovely dinner this evening.
Coco Pops on Toast with a side of Ready Brek?
Pulled Coco Pops on a bed of 'Brek. It's not 2014, VID.
Ooh er, 'ark at 'er.
I bet you order your shaving gear online from someone who hand mills the blades on goats horns (Swiss goats only) in an artisan workshop (shed) in Accrington, despite having the sort of beard that looks like the gene splicing of Baker and Jedinak himself.
I hope this bloke is as good as everybody seems to think he is, if you'd asked me three weeks ago what position he played I'd have guessed centre half. That's how much I know about him. Is he a hipster?
He doesn't own a single plate.
I hear that he's had his converted warehouse in Peckham done out entirely like Kevin Muscat's 1991 Croydon gaff entirely for reasons of irony. Got Mrs M in to go to DFS and allsorts, I heard. Parks his segway in the disabled spaces to make a statement about consumerism too, apparently.
If his Instagram's anything to go by though, he had a lovely dinner this evening.
Coco Pops on Toast with a side of Ready Brek?
Pulled Coco Pops on a bed of 'Brek. It's not 2014, VID.
I thought this was the Mile Jedinak thread?
I thought this was the Mile Jedinak thread?
I really don't get the problem with the Visa work permit. I presume he has a permit until his contract at Palace runs out in 2017? He's played here for 5 years, is a full international. You see unheard of foreign players signing for clubs at 11.55pm on 'deadline day', and they're eligible pretty much straightaway. Why is it Villa with these problems? Look at the goalkeeper we tried to sign last January, which turned into a fiasco.
Excuse my ignorance, but is that his cafe Jedi Nax next to the bus depot in New Cross?
I hope this bloke is as good as everybody seems to think he is, if you'd asked me three weeks ago what position he played I'd have guessed centre half. That's how much I know about him. Is he a hipster?
He doesn't own a single plate.
I hear that he's had his converted warehouse in Peckham done out entirely like Kevin Muscat's 1991 Croydon gaff entirely for reasons of irony. Got Mrs M in to go to DFS and allsorts, I heard. Parks his segway in the disabled spaces to make a statement about consumerism too, apparently.
If his Instagram's anything to go by though, he had a lovely dinner this evening.
Coco Pops on Toast with a side of Ready Brek?
Pulled Coco Pops on a bed of 'Brek. It's not 2014, VID.
Pulled Coco Pops on a bed of dirty 'Brek.
Cereal and hipster puns aside - is Jedinak actually signing for us?
Cereal and hipster puns aside - is Jedinak actually signing for us?
Yes. Some Visa paper work to go through, but should be completed by tomorrow.
Cereal and hipster puns aside - is Jedinak actually signing for us?
Yes. Some Visa paper work to go through, but should be completed by tomorrow.
We're buying him him using a debit card?
The last bearded midfielder we had did not do too bad (not Trevor Hockey)His 'speciality 'was corner taking, if memory serves....Godzilla!
The last bearded midfielder we had did not do too bad (not Trevor Hockey)
The last bearded midfielder we had did not do too bad (not Trevor Hockey)
Moustapha Hadji? ;)
Cereal and hipster puns aside - is Jedinak actually signing for us?
Yes. Some Visa paper work to go through, but should be completed by tomorrow.
We're buying him him using a debit card?
A Switch card for reasons of retro.
Cereal and hipster puns aside - is Jedinak actually signing for us?
Yes. Some Visa paper work to go through, but should be completed by tomorrow.
We're buying him him using a debit card?
A Switch card for reasons of retro.
Access
My dad had one of those in the 70s/80s
Cereal and hipster puns aside - is Jedinak actually signing for us?
Yes. Some Visa paper work to go through, but should be completed by tomorrow.
We're buying him him using a debit card?
A Switch card for reasons of retro.
Access
My dad had one of those in the 70s/80s
It's done. All will be announced at 5pm
It's done. All will be announced at 5pm
The last bearded midfielder we had did not do too bad (not Trevor Hockey)
Moustapha Hadji? ;)
Yes, just announced. But where's Diawara and Bamford?
Unable to play until relative clearance obtained.
Sky, always a bit late to the party wrote on their transfer pager after the Doc tweeted, "Stand by your beds Aston Villa fans ... " ....is this a saying I've never heard before, to stand by your beds!?Army, kit inspection.
Unable to play until relative clearance obtained.
I wonder what the timescale is
Unable to play until relative clearance obtained.
I wonder what the timescale is
Ah right, I see now. Does it work in terms of a transfer announcement though?Sky, always a bit late to the party wrote on their transfer pager after the Doc tweeted, "Stand by your beds Aston Villa fans ... " ....is this a saying I've never heard before, to stand by your beds!?Army, kit inspection.
Unable to play until relative clearance obtained.
I wonder what the timescale is
I really don't get that - his current work permit enables him to play/work in this country until next year?? Crazy - other foreign players don't seem to have this hassle.
I really don't get the problem with the Visa work permit. I presume he has a permit until his contract at Palace runs out in 2017? He's played here for 5 years, is a full international. You see unheard of foreign players signing for clubs at 11.55pm on 'deadline day', and they're eligible pretty much straightaway. Why is it Villa with these problems? Look at the goalkeeper we tried to sign last January, which turned into a fiasco.
There won't be a problem, but that doesn't mean there isn't administration to deal with.
The terms of his employment are changing, meaning checks are made to make sure his new terms are still in line with his original permissions.
Which they will be, but they're still going to check.
It became a saying to expect/be ready for something happening immediately.Ah right, I see now. Does it work in terms of a transfer announcement though?Sky, always a bit late to the party wrote on their transfer pager after the Doc tweeted, "Stand by your beds Aston Villa fans ... " ....is this a saying I've never heard before, to stand by your beds!?Army, kit inspection.
CheersIt became a saying to expect/be ready for something happening immediately.Ah right, I see now. Does it work in terms of a transfer announcement though?Sky, always a bit late to the party wrote on their transfer pager after the Doc tweeted, "Stand by your beds Aston Villa fans ... " ....is this a saying I've never heard before, to stand by your beds!?Army, kit inspection.
I think it is to do with the army. Well in the past anyway. Inspection of kit and things like that.
Top signing.What I like about this signing is how it's the polar opposite to what we were bringing in last summer. Character, leadership and bottle.
Hope we get the clearance in time for him to start against Derby, we will need him for that one I think.
Top signing.
Hope we get the clearance in time for him to start against Derby, we will need him for that one I think.
Anybody but Gardener.Top signing.
Hope we get the clearance in time for him to start against Derby, we will need him for that one I think.
This. We really need him to start at Derby.
He reminds me of Khal Drogo from Game Of Thrones.
Hi all , Palace fan in peace. I have always had a soft spot for your club and wishing you a great season ahead so that you will be back where you belong very soon....thanks for lending us our first ever kit by the way :). You have signed a Palace legend in Mile Jedinak and bloody well done! He is a man of steel, afraid of no one and just a great leader and professional. I honestly wish we still had him, but he will be perfect for you guys now and I will make a point of following your progress more carefully....actually I hate the prem, its not about love of club anymore just about fecking money. Mile is a rare thing as you will find out, the last of loyal warriors and he will give you 100% at all levels. Go well Villa!
It became a saying to expect/be ready for something happening immediately.Ah right, I see now. Does it work in terms of a transfer announcement though?Sky, always a bit late to the party wrote on their transfer pager after the Doc tweeted, "Stand by your beds Aston Villa fans ... " ....is this a saying I've never heard before, to stand by your beds!?Army, kit inspection.
Hi all , Palace fan in peace. I have always had a soft spot for your club and wishing you a great season ahead so that you will be back where you belong very soon....thanks for lending us our first ever kit by the way :). You have signed a Palace legend in Mile Jedinak and bloody well done! He is a man of steel, afraid of no one and just a great leader and professional. I honestly wish we still had him, but he will be perfect for you guys now and I will make a point of following your progress more carefully....actually I hate the prem, its not about love of club anymore just about fecking money. Mile is a rare thing as you will find out, the last of loyal warriors and he will give you 100% at all levels. Go well Villa!Hey Palace fan in peace - Thank you for coming here and your kind words. If we were playing Top Trumps how would you rate Mile Jedinak now on - free kicks, penalty taking, heading, speed, tackling, dribbling, leadership, attitude, positional play, passing?
He plays in the number 15 shirt. You know who plays in that number from us, don't you?
Bye bye Pointy
*prays*
He plays in the number 15 shirt. You know who plays in that number from us, don't you?
Bye bye Pointy
*prays*
I wouldn't be so eager to get rid of Westwood. I think he's a pretty useful
squad player. He's certainly better than Gardner.
Hi all , Palace fan in peace. I have always had a soft spot for your club and wishing you a great season ahead so that you will be back where you belong very soon....thanks for lending us our first ever kit by the way :). You have signed a Palace legend in Mile Jedinak and bloody well done! He is a man of steel, afraid of no one and just a great leader and professional. I honestly wish we still had him, but he will be perfect for you guys now and I will make a point of following your progress more carefully....actually I hate the prem, its not about love of club anymore just about fecking money. Mile is a rare thing as you will find out, the last of loyal warriors and he will give you 100% at all levels. Go well Villa!
cheers for the comments , he seems like a proper player that we have needed for years , all the best for the season
Hi all , Palace fan in peace. I have always had a soft spot for your club and wishing you a great season ahead so that you will be back where you belong very soon....thanks for lending us our first ever kit by the way :). You have signed a Palace legend in Mile Jedinak and bloody well done! He is a man of steel, afraid of no one and just a great leader and professional. I honestly wish we still had him, but he will be perfect for you guys now and I will make a point of following your progress more carefully....actually I hate the prem, its not about love of club anymore just about fecking money. Mile is a rare thing as you will find out, the last of loyal warriors and he will give you 100% at all levels. Go well Villa!
He plays in the number 15 shirt. You know who plays in that number from us, don't you?
Bye bye Pointy
*prays*
I wouldn't be so eager to get rid of Westwood. I think he's a pretty useful
squad player. He's certainly better than Gardner.
Hi all , Palace fan in peace. I have always had a soft spot for your club and wishing you a great season ahead so that you will be back where you belong very soon....thanks for lending us our first ever kit by the way :). You have signed a Palace legend in Mile Jedinak and bloody well done! He is a man of steel, afraid of no one and just a great leader and professional. I honestly wish we still had him, but he will be perfect for you guys now and I will make a point of following your progress more carefully....actually I hate the prem, its not about love of club anymore just about fecking money. Mile is a rare thing as you will find out, the last of loyal warriors and he will give you 100% at all levels. Go well Villa!Thanks, good luck for the Prem` season, totally agree about the way that league has gone but unfortunately we all would still rather be there. as for Jedinak, if we can get ten more like him.....(PS, now were a bit on our arses - can we have that kit back??!!) ;) ;)
Tony isn't publicity shy is he.
He plays in the number 15 shirt. You know who plays in that number from us, don't you?
Bye bye Pointy
*prays*
I wouldn't be so eager to get rid of Westwood. I think he's a pretty useful
squad player. He's certainly better than Gardner.
His stats from Huddersfield are pretty good. And they didn't even include his pointing.
I don't need stats to tell me he had a good game against Huddersfield. Some people have such a downer on him they will never see it, but he was absolutely integral to our first half performance. He was constantly available as an outlet, kept the ball moving really well and worked incredibly hard. I think behind Jack he was probably our most influential player.He plays in the number 15 shirt. You know who plays in that number from us, don't you?
Bye bye Pointy
*prays*
I wouldn't be so eager to get rid of Westwood. I think he's a pretty useful
squad player. He's certainly better than Gardner.
His stats from Huddersfield are pretty good. And they didn't even include his pointing.
Do the stats take into account the number of passes that Pointy under hit, causing the intended recipient to run towards the ball or be closed down quicker than he would have been if the pass had had some weight to it ?
I don't need stats to tell me he had a good game against Huddersfield. Some people have such a downer on him they will never see it, but he was absolutely integral to our first half performance. He was constantly available as an outlet, kept the ball moving really well and worked incredibly hard. I think behind Jack he was probably our most influential player.He plays in the number 15 shirt. You know who plays in that number from us, don't you?
Bye bye Pointy
*prays*
I wouldn't be so eager to get rid of Westwood. I think he's a pretty useful
squad player. He's certainly better than Gardner.
His stats from Huddersfield are pretty good. And they didn't even include his pointing.
Do the stats take into account the number of passes that Pointy under hit, causing the intended recipient to run towards the ball or be closed down quicker than he would have been if the pass had had some weight to it ?
I don't need stats to tell me he had a good game against Huddersfield. Some people have such a downer on him they will never see it, but he was absolutely integral to our first half performance. He was constantly available as an outlet, kept the ball moving really well and worked incredibly hard. I think behind Jack he was probably our most influential player.He plays in the number 15 shirt. You know who plays in that number from us, don't you?
Bye bye Pointy
*prays*
I wouldn't be so eager to get rid of Westwood. I think he's a pretty useful
squad player. He's certainly better than Gardner.
His stats from Huddersfield are pretty good. And they didn't even include his pointing.
Do the stats take into account the number of passes that Pointy under hit, causing the intended recipient to run towards the ball or be closed down quicker than he would have been if the pass had had some weight to it ?
Me and Fingers of this Parish were saying much the same at the game Tuesday, he has been poor for the past few seasons but he looks like he could be invaluable at this level but a lot aren't going to give him a chance due to past performance.
Tony isn't publicity shy is he.
keep signing players like Jedi and I dont care
I don't need stats to tell me he had a good game against Huddersfield. Some people have such a downer on him they will never see it, but he was absolutely integral to our first half performance. He was constantly available as an outlet, kept the ball moving really well and worked incredibly hard. I think behind Jack he was probably our most influential player.He plays in the number 15 shirt. You know who plays in that number from us, don't you?
Bye bye Pointy
*prays*
I wouldn't be so eager to get rid of Westwood. I think he's a pretty useful
squad player. He's certainly better than Gardner.
His stats from Huddersfield are pretty good. And they didn't even include his pointing.
Do the stats take into account the number of passes that Pointy under hit, causing the intended recipient to run towards the ball or be closed down quicker than he would have been if the pass had had some weight to it ?
Me and Fingers of this Parish were saying much the same at the game Tuesday, he has been poor for the past few seasons but he looks like he could be invaluable at this level but a lot aren't going to give him a chance due to past performance.
Although after the last couple of matches, the Bacuna's renaissance (Bacunaissance?) seems to be in full swing.
Maybe Westwood might go the same way.
I think this guy could be the missing piece of the puzzle. Its not ability or legs we are missing but a big heart and a cool head. When we are hanging on to a result we need someone in the centre of the park who wants the ball and does the right thing with it. Gardner, Westwood, Grealish, Tshibola are all good players to varying degrees but we have been missing the organ grinder to carry them along since Petrov finished (Credit where its due, Delph had a bloody good go and would have no doubt turned into that complete player if he wasnt such a money grabbing prat)The puzzle being why has it taken so long and so many managers to realise that we have had no "spine" running through our team since.... I dunno it seems like forever. He will complete the "spine" perfectly. Great move by the powers that be. Good luck Mile. Oh and good luck to Palace after the in peace guys classy comments.
I don't need stats to tell me he had a good game against Huddersfield. Some people have such a downer on him they will never see it, but he was absolutely integral to our first half performance. He was constantly available as an outlet, kept the ball moving really well and worked incredibly hard. I think behind Jack he was probably our most influential player.He plays in the number 15 shirt. You know who plays in that number from us, don't you?
Bye bye Pointy
*prays*
I wouldn't be so eager to get rid of Westwood. I think he's a pretty useful
squad player. He's certainly better than Gardner.
His stats from Huddersfield are pretty good. And they didn't even include his pointing.
Do the stats take into account the number of passes that Pointy under hit, causing the intended recipient to run towards the ball or be closed down quicker than he would have been if the pass had had some weight to it ?
Me and Fingers of this Parish were saying much the same at the game Tuesday, he has been poor for the past few seasons but he looks like he could be invaluable at this level but a lot aren't going to give him a chance due to past performance.
Although after the last couple of matches, the Bacuna's renaissance (Bacunaissance?) seems to be in full swing.
Maybe Westwood might go the same way.
I agree with you about the Bacuna renaissance.
I don't share your optimism about Westwood.
I don't need stats to tell me he had a good game against Huddersfield. Some people have such a downer on him they will never see it, but he was absolutely integral to our first half performance. He was constantly available as an outlet, kept the ball moving really well and worked incredibly hard. I think behind Jack he was probably our most influential player.He plays in the number 15 shirt. You know who plays in that number from us, don't you?
Bye bye Pointy
*prays*
I wouldn't be so eager to get rid of Westwood. I think he's a pretty useful
squad player. He's certainly better than Gardner.
His stats from Huddersfield are pretty good. And they didn't even include his pointing.
Do the stats take into account the number of passes that Pointy under hit, causing the intended recipient to run towards the ball or be closed down quicker than he would have been if the pass had had some weight to it ?
Me and Fingers of this Parish were saying much the same at the game Tuesday, he has been poor for the past few seasons but he looks like he could be invaluable at this level but a lot aren't going to give him a chance due to past performance.
Currently doing a live Q&A on Facebook.
Bluto that is, not Westwood or Bacuna.
He's 32 not 109!
He's 32 not 109!
If you follow that argument we don't need cover for anyone below 32 so can get by with a 12 man squad.
We've got a lot of crap players including Westwood. If we give them all a second chance it'll be a while until we're back in the Premier League.
He's 32 not 109!
If you follow that argument we don't need cover for anyone below 32 so can get by with a 12 man squad.
I think that there are also different types of 32 year old player. Until he joined Palace as a 27 year old he'd only played around 200 matches in his career. For context, Wayne Rooney had played that many by age 20.
So one would hope that there is a lot more left in his body than the average 32 year old footballer.
The solution then is to buy even more midfielders. Buy all the midfielders.
Not sure what difference the useless pointy bastard can make coming off the bench.
“Personally I promise the fans I will give 100% in every single game, every single day I come to work. That’s who I am. That’s what I will give. That’s all I know.”
The solution then is to buy even more midfielders. Buy all the midfielders.
Quote“Personally I promise the fans I will give 100% in every single game, every single day I come to work. That’s who I am. That’s what I will give. That’s all I know.”
Miles Jedinak
He's still Premiership class, so he'll stand out down here.
He's still Premiership class, so he'll stand out down here.
*through gritted, neurotic teeth*
It's not been called that since Juan Pablo fucking Angel was up front for us.
*goes to calm down*
I think he'll improve us massively. When was the last time we had this leadership in midfield ? Stan ?
Welcome Jedinak. I hope you have a very very successful season.
Hello mate not sure what top trumps is but Mile can take top class free kicks, curling into the top corner heroics!. He is the go to man for penalties and seems to thrive in pressure situations. He seems to win every single header!! amazing header!! His speed has slowed a bit but with regular game time that might improve.Absolute beast in tackling and breaking up play, something to behold.Not the best dribbler or passer but you won't see anyone work harder to improve his game and hopefully the new environment and training might just improve that. Leadership and attitude is one of the best i've seen in 40 years supporting Palace...his positional play is good and he will organize your whole side to fight! I'm envious:) All the best.Hi all , Palace fan in peace. I have always had a soft spot for your club and wishing you a great season ahead so that you will be back where you belong very soon....thanks for lending us our first ever kit by the way :). You have signed a Palace legend in Mile Jedinak and bloody well done! He is a man of steel, afraid of no one and just a great leader and professional. I honestly wish we still had him, but he will be perfect for you guys now and I will make a point of following your progress more carefully....actually I hate the prem, its not about love of club anymore just about fecking money. Mile is a rare thing as you will find out, the last of loyal warriors and he will give you 100% at all levels. Go well Villa!Hey Palace fan in peace - Thank you for coming here and your kind words. If we were playing Top Trumps how would you rate Mile Jedinak now on - free kicks, penalty taking, heading, speed, tackling, dribbling, leadership, attitude, positional play, passing?
Thanx mate.Looks like we might be close to signing Benteke which i'm excited about as he does seem perfect for us and would never have dreamt we'd spend that much to get him but fingers crossed. Would rather have signed him with Jedi in the team though...and Pardrews not a particular fav at the moment(personally i cant stand him). So all the best with the season ahead, hopefully you will rip it up!.Hi all , Palace fan in peace. I have always had a soft spot for your club and wishing you a great season ahead so that you will be back where you belong very soon....thanks for lending us our first ever kit by the way :). You have signed a Palace legend in Mile Jedinak and bloody well done! He is a man of steel, afraid of no one and just a great leader and professional. I honestly wish we still had him, but he will be perfect for you guys now and I will make a point of following your progress more carefully....actually I hate the prem, its not about love of club anymore just about fecking money. Mile is a rare thing as you will find out, the last of loyal warriors and he will give you 100% at all levels. Go well Villa!
Cheers for taking the time to log in and post this. He sounds a top player.
Hope Palace have a decent season. Are you gonna sign Benteke, do you reckon? I think if you play to his strengths he could easily go back to being one of the best strikers around.
He's still Premiership class, so he'll stand out down here.
*through gritted, neurotic teeth*
It's not been called that since Juan Pablo fucking Angel was up front for us.
*goes to calm down*
I haven't got a clue what Liverpool did to Benteke (probably the same thing they did to Andy Carroll) but I am looking forward to seeing him play again now we don't have to face him. Hope it comes off but £27million? Phew.
I haven't got a clue what Liverpool did to Benteke (probably the same thing they did to Andy Carroll) but I am looking forward to seeing him play again now we don't have to face him. Hope it comes off but £27million? Phew.
Apparently Tekkers wants £120k a week at Palace.....obviously just keen to get playing again..!!
Elphick/Chester, Jedinak/Tshibola, McCormack/tbc
Not a bad spine of new signings. If Bamford comes in, I'll be really chuffed.
Elphick/Chester, Jedinak/Tshibola, McCormack/tbc
Not a bad spine of new signings. If Bamford comes in, I'll be really chuffed.
What about the sides - don't you think we need some flankers ?
Hello mate not sure what top trumps is but Mile can take top class free kicks, curling into the top corner heroics!. He is the go to man for penalties and seems to thrive in pressure situations. He seems to win every single header!! amazing header!! His speed has slowed a bit but with regular game time that might improve.Absolute beast in tackling and breaking up play, something to behold.Not the best dribbler or passer but you won't see anyone work harder to improve his game and hopefully the new environment and training might just improve that. Leadership and attitude is one of the best i've seen in 40 years supporting Palace...his positional play is good and he will organize your whole side to fight! I'm envious:) All the best.Hi all , Palace fan in peace. I have always had a soft spot for your club and wishing you a great season ahead so that you will be back where you belong very soon....thanks for lending us our first ever kit by the way :). You have signed a Palace legend in Mile Jedinak and bloody well done! He is a man of steel, afraid of no one and just a great leader and professional. I honestly wish we still had him, but he will be perfect for you guys now and I will make a point of following your progress more carefully....actually I hate the prem, its not about love of club anymore just about fecking money. Mile is a rare thing as you will find out, the last of loyal warriors and he will give you 100% at all levels. Go well Villa!Hey Palace fan in peace - Thank you for coming here and your kind words. If we were playing Top Trumps how would you rate Mile Jedinak now on - free kicks, penalty taking, heading, speed, tackling, dribbling, leadership, attitude, positional play, passing?
I am actually sporting a very Jedinak like beard at the moment (with a tad more grey hairs than him admittedly). It is more laziness than fashion statement and I was going to 'get rid' this weekend. But I may keep it until after Sunday's game as a tribute. I presume he is eligible to play.Not eligible unfortunately. Visa delays.
I am actually sporting a very Jedinak like beard at the moment (with a tad more grey hairs than him admittedly). It is more laziness than fashion statement and I was going to 'get rid' this weekend. But I may keep it until after Sunday's game as a tribute. I presume he is eligible to play.Not eligible unfortunately. Visa delays.
That is fucking ridiculous. Can you imagine that being the case if this was Man U or Chelsea. The bastards don't do us any favours do they?
That is fucking ridiculous. Can you imagine that being the case if this was Man U or Chelsea. The bastards don't do us any favours do they?
He can play, all sorted
He can play, all sorted
I thought there were Visa/work permit issues ?
UTV
The Doc
Just play him.
What they gonna do?
Excellent news. Although I do think the criticism of Westwood is way over the top, as he's been alright this season. Also the pointing is trying to get his teammates to have awareness of the team's shape, which is quite important.
Excellent news. Although I do think the criticism of Westwood is way over the top, as he's been alright this season. Also the pointing is trying to get his teammates to have awareness of the team's shape, which is quite important.
Excellent news. Although I do think the criticism of Westwood is way over the top, as he's been alright this season. Also the pointing is trying to get his teammates to have awareness of the team's shape, which is quite important.
It's just a bit annoying when the other team are walking through our midfield whilst he's busy pointing.
Excellent news. Although I do think the criticism of Westwood is way over the top, as he's been alright this season. Also the pointing is trying to get his teammates to have awareness of the team's shape, which is quite important.
It's just a bit annoying when the other team are walking through our midfield whilst he's busy pointing.
I'm not a fan, mainly because he's not improved in all the time he's been with us, but I too think he's been alright this season.
And I've not noticed him pointing, which must mean he's not doing it, as previously when he did it it was as though he was jabbing his finger directly into my eye.
I think it's massively to put Westwood up as one of the main culprits of our demise. There are many players who have been much bigger drains on the club. I think Westwood just appears to be a convenient scapegoat. Is he up there with Agbonlahor, Richards, Beye, Lescott and N'Zog? No chance. A few weeks ago it was Bacuna, but a couple of good games and people seem to be coming round to him.
I think it's massively to put Westwood up as one of the main culprits of our demise. There are many players who have been much bigger drains on the club. I think Westwood just appears to be a convenient scapegoat. Is he up there with Agbonlahor, Richards, Beye, Lescott and N'Zog? No chance. A few weeks ago it was Bacuna, but a couple of good games and people seem to be coming round to him.
Westwood may well be a good professional and gives it his best, but sadly his best just isn't good enough. He was the main man in the worst midfield I've ever seen at Villa. If we're to achieve anything this season and beyond we can't have a player as average as him in it.
I agree that the Jedi should replace Westwood, and I'm no great Westwood fan, but to describe him as 'cheating a living' is a bit OTT. Westwood lacks the ability to read the game, anticipate the movement of the game and cover the full backs: he definitely isn't a Petrov or a Barry. But he has been put in this place by successive managers - admittedly mostly crap - and we ought to at least respect his professionalism.Excellent news. Although I do think the criticism of Westwood is way over the top, as he's been alright this season. Also the pointing is trying to get his teammates to have awareness of the team's shape, which is quite important.
It's just a bit annoying when the other team are walking through our midfield whilst he's busy pointing.
I'm not a fan, mainly because he's not improved in all the time he's been with us, but I too think he's been alright this season.
And I've not noticed him pointing, which must mean he's not doing it, as previously when he did it it was as though he was jabbing his finger directly into my eye.
I think he's been as anonymous and average as he always is. I read somewhere else on this site from a fan who said he'd be perfectly adequate in the Championship. Well adequate footballers aren't gonna get you promoted, we need the best players in the Championship not the most average ones because they're the ones who'll get you out of this league.
Westwood has cheated a living out of Villa for years now and hopefully we'll finally see him replaced with a player worthy of a Villa shirt in Jedinack. I know that sounds harsh but we have to get rid of the players who've played their part in our demise, and Westwood is up there with the worst of them.
Its in the Mail. Are we sure it is true?
(I didn't click the link by the way - that website hurts my brain)
I am actually sporting a very Jedinak like beard at the moment (with a tad more grey hairs than him admittedly). It is more laziness than fashion statement and I was going to 'get rid' this weekend. But I may keep it until after Sunday's game as a tribute. I presume he is eligible to play.Not eligible unfortunately. Visa delays.
I am actually sporting a very Jedinak like beard at the moment (with a tad more grey hairs than him admittedly). It is more laziness than fashion statement and I was going to 'get rid' this weekend. But I may keep it until after Sunday's game as a tribute. I presume he is eligible to play.Not eligible unfortunately. Visa delays.
To be honest I had got fed up of the beard and shaved it off last night. The fact that he is ineligible to play comes as a bit of a relief to me. In that I was thinking in that totally superstitious and illogical way that us football fans tend to do that I had somehow jinxed his debut by doing it.
I am actually sporting a very Jedinak like beard at the moment (with a tad more grey hairs than him admittedly). It is more laziness than fashion statement and I was going to 'get rid' this weekend. But I may keep it until after Sunday's game as a tribute. I presume he is eligible to play.Not eligible unfortunately. Visa delays.
To be honest I had got fed up of the beard and shaved it off last night. The fact that he is ineligible to play comes as a bit of a relief to me. In that I was thinking in that totally superstitious and illogical way that us football fans tend to do that I had somehow jinxed his debut by doing it.
His work permit was granted wasn't it?
So is available? Yes, no, maybe!
The best that can be said for Westwood is that he is sometimes able to keep play moving on the rare occasion that things are going well for us.
As soon as there's the slightest whiff of a battle he disappears like a fart in a sulphur mine, fails to offer protection to the defence, allows opposition players to run straight through the midfield and becomes totally anonymous.
He can't take a set piece and has great difficulty kicking a moving ball with any accuracy.
Importantly, as a man, he has zero presence, charisma or personality, so he fails to inspire either his fellow players or the crowd. There are slugs in my garden with more authority than Westwood. Has anyone ever sung his name? Almost certainly not.
He is a magnolia porch interior, a plastic hostess trolley, one of those see-through rain macs that you keep in the cupboard but wouldn't be seen dead in, not even in an ironic way at Glastonbury. He's a thimbleful of Morrison's own cooking lager. He is a rice cake.
May he fade back into obscurity from whence he came and be forgotten forever.
The best that can be said for Westwood is that he is sometimes able to keep play moving on the rare occasion that things are going well for us.Do I take it that you are not particularly enamoured by Westwood Jimbo?
As soon as there's the slightest whiff of a battle he disappears like a fart in a sulphur mine, fails to offer protection to the defence, allows opposition players to run straight through the midfield and becomes totally anonymous.
He can't take a set piece and has great difficulty kicking a moving ball with any accuracy.
Importantly, as a man, he has zero presence, charisma or personality, so he fails to inspire either his fellow players or the crowd. There are slugs in my garden with more authority than Westwood. Has anyone ever sung his name? Almost certainly not.
He is a magnolia porch interior, a plastic hostess trolley, one of those see-through rain macs that you keep in the cupboard but wouldn't be seen dead in, not even in an ironic way at Glastonbury. He's a thimbleful of Morrison's own cooking lager. He is a rice cake.
May he fade back into obscurity from whence he came and be forgotten forever.
Kind of got my hopes pinned on Jedinak being the one who can rectify things when the opposition press the ball, because when that happens, we seem to fall apart. The second half today was as bad as anything last season in terms of ball retention and decision-making. We need someone who'll get it back, keep it, calm things down and get some shape back into the team.
Got it on good advice from a Palace S/T Holder that he`s a good lad, dirty bugger apparently "He`ll get a few cards" but a bit of a Bruiser which is something we have lacked for a while (Hutton notwithstanding) apparently the Palace fans loved him but he did start to go AWOL a few times which is a worry, played in their Cup-Final team so they obviously trusted him, could be good for us.
Got it on good advice from a Palace S/T Holder that he`s a good lad, dirty bugger apparently "He`ll get a few cards" but a bit of a Bruiser which is something we have lacked for a while (Hutton notwithstanding) apparently the Palace fans loved him but he did start to go AWOL a few times which is a worry, played in their Cup-Final team so they obviously trusted him, could be good for us.
I heard the complete opposite.
I`m only going by what this lad told me who`s seen pretty much every game he played for them.Got it on good advice from a Palace S/T Holder that he`s a good lad, dirty bugger apparently "He`ll get a few cards" but a bit of a Bruiser which is something we have lacked for a while (Hutton notwithstanding) apparently the Palace fans loved him but he did start to go AWOL a few times which is a worry, played in their Cup-Final team so they obviously trusted him, could be good for us.
I heard the complete opposite.
Any views from those who watched the game yday?
I have to say I've rarely seen him play but when I did I wasn't that impressed. His passing was bad
But there's enough weight of opinion in his favour to suggest he can be really effective at this level (or was at least).
I wonder if he's up to playing in a two man midfield at his age
Either way, good to get views
He'll do fine for us I'm sure. It's the pointer that worries me.
He'll do fine for us I'm sure. It's the pointer that worries me.
Perhaps. I do suspect we might see the pointer afforded less tolerance on the basis of not having a beard though.
Jedi had a good game bossing the midfield for Australia last night in WCQ against Iraq. I'm not sure if Iraq are as good as Forest though.
Jedi had a good game bossing the midfield for Australia last night in WCQ against Iraq. I'm not sure if Iraq are as good as Forest though.
Thought he was a bit off, to be honest - did fine defensively but didn't have much to do, and passing was poor. I think Palace fans warned us about the latter though, which makes it a little concerning that we don't have a midfielder who can move us forward consistently and accurately with passing - Westwood does it sometimes but his problems elsewhere are well-documented, and it doesn't sound like Tshibola or Gardner are of that type either.
Jedi had a good game bossing the midfield for Australia last night in WCQ against Iraq. I'm not sure if Iraq are as good as Forest though.
Thought he was a bit off, to be honest - did fine defensively but didn't have much to do, and passing was poor. I think Palace fans warned us about the latter though, which makes it a little concerning that we don't have a midfielder who can move us forward consistently and accurately with passing - Westwood does it sometimes but his problems elsewhere are well-documented, and it doesn't sound like Tshibola or Gardner are of that type either.
When Westwood first appeared his passing was pretty incisive (comparatively speaking). Without the burden of being the team's muscle - something he is clearly not suited to - then this element of his game might improve. It needs to because being the "Pirlo" is the closest thing he has to a unique selling point compared to the others midfielders.
Jedi had a good game bossing the midfield for Australia last night in WCQ against Iraq. I'm not sure if Iraq are as good as Forest though.
Thought he was a bit off, to be honest - did fine defensively but didn't have much to do, and passing was poor. I think Palace fans warned us about the latter though, which makes it a little concerning that we don't have a midfielder who can move us forward consistently and accurately with passing - Westwood does it sometimes but his problems elsewhere are well-documented, and it doesn't sound like Tshibola or Gardner are of that type either.
When Westwood first appeared his passing was pretty incisive (comparatively speaking). Without the burden of being the team's muscle - something he is clearly not suited to - then this element of his game might improve. It needs to because being the "Pirlo" is the closest thing he has to a unique selling point compared to the others midfielders.
I agree, and I know it may not be popular, but I think if Westwood isn't responsible for being the midfield muscle I think he can do a job as a distributor.
I do think it's a bit of a quandary. It may be that Jedi needs someone with the legs to get around the pitch alongside him AND someone with good passing skills
he may be more suited to playing in a three therefore
Or to a team that isn't going to have loads of the ball
I'm still a bit of a sceptic that he's quite the player many believe, but obviously he needs a bit of time to bed in
Will Westwood have to adjust his points to play the role of distributor and maybe provide the spark Villa need in midfield
Jedi had a good game bossing the midfield for Australia last night in WCQ against Iraq. I'm not sure if Iraq are as good as Forest though.
Thought he was a bit off, to be honest - did fine defensively but didn't have much to do, and passing was poor. I think Palace fans warned us about the latter though, which makes it a little concerning that we don't have a midfielder who can move us forward consistently and accurately with passing - Westwood does it sometimes but his problems elsewhere are well-documented, and it doesn't sound like Tshibola or Gardner are of that type either.
When Westwood first appeared his passing was pretty incisive (comparatively speaking). Without the burden of being the team's muscle - something he is clearly not suited to - then this element of his game might improve. It needs to because being the "Pirlo" is the closest thing he has to a unique selling point compared to the others midfielders.
I agree, and I know it may not be popular, but I think if Westwood isn't responsible for being the midfield muscle I think he can do a job as a distributor.
If he becomes a good distributor do you think he'll get a cap?
Jedi had a good game bossing the midfield for Australia last night in WCQ against Iraq. I'm not sure if Iraq are as good as Forest though.
Thought he was a bit off, to be honest - did fine defensively but didn't have much to do, and passing was poor. I think Palace fans warned us about the latter though, which makes it a little concerning that we don't have a midfielder who can move us forward consistently and accurately with passing - Westwood does it sometimes but his problems elsewhere are well-documented, and it doesn't sound like Tshibola or Gardner are of that type either.
When Westwood first appeared his passing was pretty incisive (comparatively speaking). Without the burden of being the team's muscle - something he is clearly not suited to - then this element of his game might improve. It needs to because being the "Pirlo" is the closest thing he has to a unique selling point compared to the others midfielders.
I agree, and I know it may not be popular, but I think if Westwood isn't responsible for being the midfield muscle I think he can do a job as a distributor.
If he becomes a good distributor do you think he'll get a cap?
If he could be a fully functional distributor that could well provide the spark that's needed.
Two weeks settling in with the squad and he'll be fine. He clearly needs a distributor to play next to him.
Two weeks settling in with the squad and he'll be fine. He clearly needs a distributor to play next to him.
He has another game with Australia against UAE on Tuesday so probably won't be back until Thursday. I'd be very surprised if he starts on Saturday. Maybe coming off the bench for the last 20 minutes to tighten things up as we defend a 5-0 lead?
Two weeks settling in with the squad and he'll be fine. He clearly needs a distributor to play next to him.
He has another game with Australia against UAE on Tuesday so probably won't be back until Thursday. I'd be very surprised if he starts on Saturday. Maybe coming off the bench for the last 20 minutes to tighten things up as we defend a 5-0 lead?
We play Sunday.
Jedi had a good game bossing the midfield for Australia last night in WCQ against Iraq. I'm not sure if Iraq are as good as Forest though.
Thought he was a bit off, to be honest - did fine defensively but didn't have much to do, and passing was poor. I think Palace fans warned us about the latter though, which makes it a little concerning that we don't have a midfielder who can move us forward consistently and accurately with passing - Westwood does it sometimes but his problems elsewhere are well-documented, and it doesn't sound like Tshibola or Gardner are of that type either.
When Westwood first appeared his passing was pretty incisive (comparatively speaking). Without the burden of being the team's muscle - something he is clearly not suited to - then this element of his game might improve. It needs to because being the "Pirlo" is the closest thing he has to a unique selling point compared to the others midfielders.
I agree, and I know it may not be popular, but I think if Westwood isn't responsible for being the midfield muscle I think he can do a job as a distributor.
If he becomes a good distributor do you think he'll get a cap?
If he could be a fully functional distributor that could well provide the spark that's needed.
He could just plug the gap until the January window opens
Jedi had a good game bossing the midfield for Australia last night in WCQ against Iraq. I'm not sure if Iraq are as good as Forest though.
Thought he was a bit off, to be honest - did fine defensively but didn't have much to do, and passing was poor. I think Palace fans warned us about the latter though, which makes it a little concerning that we don't have a midfielder who can move us forward consistently and accurately with passing - Westwood does it sometimes but his problems elsewhere are well-documented, and it doesn't sound like Tshibola or Gardner are of that type either.
When Westwood first appeared his passing was pretty incisive (comparatively speaking). Without the burden of being the team's muscle - something he is clearly not suited to - then this element of his game might improve. It needs to because being the "Pirlo" is the closest thing he has to a unique selling point compared to the others midfielders.
I agree, and I know it may not be popular, but I think if Westwood isn't responsible for being the midfield muscle I think he can do a job as a distributor.
If he becomes a good distributor do you think he'll get a cap?
If he could be a fully functional distributor that could well provide the spark that's needed.
He could just plug the gap until the January window opens
Would be great if he could get us firing on all cylinders.
Mile Jedinak delivers the message Aston Villa fans want to hear
22:46, 3 SEP 2016 UPDATED 22:47, 3 SEP 2016
BY MAT KENDRICK
The Aussie midfielder is set for his home debut at Villa Park this weekend
(http://i4.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/article11769555.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Jedinak-Villa.jpg)
Mile Jedinak insists he wants to shoulder responsibility for restoring Aston Villa to the Premier League.
Villa's dressing room was inhabited by shirkers last season as the club suffered relegation to the Championship.
Jedinak is a different breed. The bearded one has opted to drop down a division willingly to be part of the challenge of getting the claret and blues back to the top flight.
And the 32-year-old midfielder admits it is a pressure he is looking forward to.
Speaking on international duty with Australia, Jedinak said: "I don't have to prove anything to anybody.
"Anyone who knows me in the football industry knows what I'm about. It's about new challenge and a new chapter.
"If everything goes into place it will be a fantastic journey bringing this club back to where it should be, and shouldering some of the responsibility makes me feel very privileged.
"If you understand the magnitude of how big a football club Aston Villa is, there's a lot to be excited about.
"There's great ambition there to return to the Premier League.
"I know from experience that it will never be easy but that's the challenge and one I will give my all to."
QuoteMile Jedinak delivers the message Aston Villa fans want to hear
22:46, 3 SEP 2016 UPDATED 22:47, 3 SEP 2016
BY MAT KENDRICK
The Aussie midfielder is set for his home debut at Villa Park this weekend
(http://i4.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/article11769555.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Jedinak-Villa.jpg)
Mile Jedinak insists he wants to shoulder responsibility for restoring Aston Villa to the Premier League.
Villa's dressing room was inhabited by shirkers last season as the club suffered relegation to the Championship.
Jedinak is a different breed. The bearded one has opted to drop down a division willingly to be part of the challenge of getting the claret and blues back to the top flight.
And the 32-year-old midfielder admits it is a pressure he is looking forward to.
Speaking on international duty with Australia, Jedinak said: "I don't have to prove anything to anybody.
"Anyone who knows me in the football industry knows what I'm about. It's about new challenge and a new chapter.
"If everything goes into place it will be a fantastic journey bringing this club back to where it should be, and shouldering some of the responsibility makes me feel very privileged.
"If you understand the magnitude of how big a football club Aston Villa is, there's a lot to be excited about.
"There's great ambition there to return to the Premier League.
"I know from experience that it will never be easy but that's the challenge and one I will give my all to."
Don't get me started on Bacuna's improved form. Is it beyond the realms of possibility that he could get a Dutch cap?My Mrs had one of them before she went on the pill.
Love this pic. Love his attitude. Looks like he's about to slam dunk the cameraman.QuoteMile Jedinak delivers the message Aston Villa fans want to hear
22:46, 3 SEP 2016 UPDATED 22:47, 3 SEP 2016
BY MAT KENDRICK
The Aussie midfielder is set for his home debut at Villa Park this weekend
(http://i4.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/article11769555.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Jedinak-Villa.jpg)
Mile Jedinak insists he wants to shoulder responsibility for restoring Aston Villa to the Premier League.
Villa's dressing room was inhabited by shirkers last season as the club suffered relegation to the Championship.
Jedinak is a different breed. The bearded one has opted to drop down a division willingly to be part of the challenge of getting the claret and blues back to the top flight.
And the 32-year-old midfielder admits it is a pressure he is looking forward to.
Speaking on international duty with Australia, Jedinak said: "I don't have to prove anything to anybody.
"Anyone who knows me in the football industry knows what I'm about. It's about new challenge and a new chapter.
"If everything goes into place it will be a fantastic journey bringing this club back to where it should be, and shouldering some of the responsibility makes me feel very privileged.
"If you understand the magnitude of how big a football club Aston Villa is, there's a lot to be excited about.
"There's great ambition there to return to the Premier League.
"I know from experience that it will never be easy but that's the challenge and one I will give my all to."
Absolutely Love that, I am already a fan of the Big Man.
Don't get me started on Bacuna's improved form. Is it beyond the realms of possibility that he could get a Dutch cap?
Don't get me started on Bacuna's improved form. Is it beyond the realms of possibility that he could get a Dutch cap?
I may be missing the joke, but Bacuna has already played competitive games for Curaçao and so can't play for anyone else.
Jedinak injured on international duty not fit to play for Australia today.
Hope not serious.
According to Birmingham Mail
Jedinak injured on international duty not fit to play for Australia today.
Hope not serious.
According to Birmingham Mail
Jedinak injured on international duty not fit to play for Australia today.
Hope not serious.
According to Birmingham Mail
No sign of Jedinak in Australia's WCQ in the UAE last night. Not sure what the nature of the injury is. Let's hope he is okay for Sunday.
Don't get me started on Bacuna's improved form. Is it beyond the realms of possibility that he could get a Dutch cap?
I may be missing the joke, but Bacuna has already played competitive games for Curaçao and so can't play for anyone else.
I think you are missing the joke CD, at least that's what I think. If not, it's on me. I think this (https://www.google.ie/search?q=dutch+cap+diaphragm&rlz=1C1AVNG_enIE635IE635&espv=2&biw=1366&bih=667&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj4kcaepvbOAhXpCsAKHalyAhEQ7AkIQQ) is what he's on about.
I haven't seem him play for us yet. How has he done so far?
My worry when we signed him was that he's getting on and may not be able to get around the pitch so well any more, and was never reputed to be the best passer anyway. Perhaps more suited to a three man midfield. The problem is we don't really have the other midfielders to fit in alongside him.
I haven't seem him play for us yet. How has he done so far?
My worry when we signed him was that he's getting on and may not be able to get around the pitch so well any more, and was never reputed to be the best passer anyway. Perhaps more suited to a three man midfield. The problem is we don't really have the other midfielders to fit in alongside him.
I haven't seem him play for us yet. How has he done so far?
My worry when we signed him was that he's getting on and may not be able to get around the pitch so well any more, and was never reputed to be the best passer anyway. Perhaps more suited to a three man midfield. The problem is we don't really have the other midfielders to fit in alongside him.
Didn't see the game today, but saw him on Wednesday and definitely think that is the case. He needs to be sitting just in front of the defence, with some more athletic players around him.
I'd agree with tomd2103 just sit him in front of the back 4 and have 2 slightly further ahead Tish and Westwood until we get an upgrade on pointy.
Jedinak literally did about ten worse fuck ups today. And when he did appear in the opposition box he crossed it so hard it didn't bounce until it was near the throw in line
I think McCormack could play at the top of a diamond - ayew and kodjia would drift wide naturally
But I definitely agree the 433 doesn't suit him
Could McCormack play midfield in place of Westwood?I think a lamp post could do that!
Gave the ball away time and again. So frustrating.
Wins the ball almost everytime mind.
Could McCormack play midfield in place of Westwood?
Could McCormack play midfield in place of Westwood?
I don't think so but I wonder if grealish could -in a three
I don't think it matters what the formation is when a player misplaces a 3 yard pass or can't move onto a ball played 2 feet in front of him.Gave the ball away time and again. So frustrating.
Wins the ball almost everytime mind.
Hopefully it should be straightforward to sort a formation to make him useful then.
Could McCormack play midfield in place of Westwood?
I don't think so but I wonder if grealish could -in a three
You wouldn't pair Grealish with the Jedi way to slow.
He was bloody awful yesterday, I lost count of the number of times he gave the ball away.Blimey, that's strong for you Clampy :-)
He was bloody awful yesterday, I lost count of the number of times he gave the ball away.
Apart from woeful performances where was the leadership we were all expecting? Elphick and Jedinak did nothing to stiffen our defence in the first two thirds of the game. I lost count of the number of times Newcastle beat us to the second ball. Chester was just as bad, allowing one threat on our goal to become multiple threats by sloppy, oh dear defending.
Dare I say it, we've played better with Gardner in the side, our poorest performances and down turn has coincided with jedinak in the team.
We do need to give him time
But he was misplacing ten yard passes under no pressure. That's not good
Dare I say it, we've played better with Gardner in the side, our poorest performances and down turn has coincided with jedinak in the team.
He was bloody awful yesterday, I lost count of the number of times he gave the ball away.
Dare I say it, we've played better with Gardner in the side, our poorest performances and down turn has coincided with jedinak in the team.
Don't be so ridiculous. Even though Jedinak has been a disappointment to me so far he is head and shoulders above Gardner (my opinion of course)
Dare I say it, we've played better with Gardner in the side, our poorest performances and down turn has coincided with jedinak in the team.
Don't be so ridiculous. Even though Jedinak has been a disappointment to me so far he is head and shoulders above Gardner (my opinion of course)
Jedinak yesterday was far worse than anything Gardner has produced so far.
Dare I say it, we've played better with Gardner in the side, our poorest performances and down turn has coincided with jedinak in the team.
Don't be so ridiculous. Even though Jedinak has been a disappointment to me so far he is head and shoulders above Gardner (my opinion of course)
Jedinak yesterday was far worse than anything Gardner has produced so far.
Dare I say it, we've played better with Gardner in the side, our poorest performances and down turn has coincided with jedinak in the team.
Don't be so ridiculous. Even though Jedinak has been a disappointment to me so far he is head and shoulders above Gardner (my opinion of course)
I know it's a bit of an outrageous and controversial concept on here but I'm willing to (draws deep breath and adds dramatic pause Bill Hicks style) be a bit patient and give him some time to get sorted. There I've said it. I know its unpopular and I'm in the minority but thats how I'm seeing it.
It would be absolutely delightful to sign a player who just came into the team and got on with things, you know, rather than taking three years to settle. Especially when the player currently being crticised is 32.Such a player appears to be Kodjia
Dare I say it, we've played better with Gardner in the side, our poorest performances and down turn has coincided with jedinak in the team.
Jedi will be fine
he will do well for us ..
what as?
The beard will scare off most opposing midfielders anyway. I can imagine most players going "What the fuck is that?"when he charges towards them. So he's worth a spot in the team for fear factor if nothing else. Bugger footballing ability.
Also it's unlikely that the Jedi is going to just step out of the way like last seasons midfield did . As a whole that bunch reminded me of the palm trees collapsing when Thunderbird 2 (or was it 3) rolled along the runway on Tracey Island.
Yes. On reflection charges is definitely wrong. "What the fuck is that" when he trundles towards them sounds better to me.The beard will scare off most opposing midfielders anyway. I can imagine most players going "What the fuck is that?"when he charges towards them. So he's worth a spot in the team for fear factor if nothing else. Bugger footballing ability.
Also it's unlikely that the Jedi is going to just step out of the way like last seasons midfield did . As a whole that bunch reminded me of the palm trees collapsing when Thunderbird 2 (or was it 3) rolled along the runway on Tracey Island.
Trundles rather than charges from what we have seen so far.
Missed training for Australia apparently. I find want to be a doom monger or anything but it doesn't bode well for Saturday. Meaning we might only have Floaty available as a recognised central midfielder.
Yes. On reflection charges is definitely wrong. "What the fuck is that" when he trundles towards them sounds better to me.The beard will scare off most opposing midfielders anyway. I can imagine most players going "What the fuck is that?"when he charges towards them. So he's worth a spot in the team for fear factor if nothing else. Bugger footballing ability.
Also it's unlikely that the Jedi is going to just step out of the way like last seasons midfield did . As a whole that bunch reminded me of the palm trees collapsing when Thunderbird 2 (or was it 3) rolled along the runway on Tracey Island.
Trundles rather than charges from what we have seen so far.
Play Richards as a holding midfield player, can't be much worse that the other options.
What does he offer?
He can't run, pass, tackle or head. The whole game passes him by.
What am I missing?
Very very poor again tonight.We watched him in the first half.I was surprised how bad he was.Most of us wanted him in.It turns out we were wrong.
I hope he improves a lot. However at the moment he's one of the poorest players I've ever seen. He offers absolutely nothing.
It's official he's crap
Much as people, including myself, dislike Westwood, he should've started.
Much as people, including myself, dislike Westwood, he should've started.
Jedinak was at least winning a few headers. We were worse when Westwood came on
I was pleased when we signed him, but he has been awful so far
Most of the headers he won went backwards and put the defence under pressure. I'm not normally one for writing off players so soon bur he clearly has lost his legs and cannot sustain a place if we're to progress. A midfield dominator is a priority for Brucie. I was really impressed with Woods for Brentford and I think he would be a great signing for us.Much as people, including myself, dislike Westwood, he should've started.
Jedinak was at least winning a few headers. We were worse when Westwood came on
Well that would certainly make his arms ache but doesn't explain why he looks like he's running with lead in his boots.I was pleased when we signed him, but he has been awful so far
Same here.
Bruce said afterwards he didn't start Ayew because of internationals and admitted he made an error given Jedinak has flown 60 hours in the last two weeks.
Needs to play in a midfield 3. Problem is the squad lacks balance so all our best players are forward players and our midfielders aren't very good (Tish aside). I've been questioning whether we can play with 2 (let alone 3) of Grealish, McCormack and Ayew
It's said that your body takes 1-2 days to recover from each time zone change.
It's said that your body takes 1-2 days to recover from each time zone change.
Really?
So a week in Majorca requires a 2 day recovery period?
Most disappointing signing so far for me. I thought he was exactly what we need and that he'd boss the Championship. So far though he's looked leggy, slow and the ball is like a hot potato.
It's said that your body takes 1-2 days to recover from each time zone change.
Really?
So a week in Majorca requires a 2 day recovery period?
BFR always said the hardest bit of his job was knowing when to move players on when their legs were starting to go. Sounds like a good move for both parties - Palace get a decent fee and we get a no nonsense presence in the middle who can probably cut it for a couple of years in this league.
not overly optimistic then that we'll be back with the big boys next year? :o
bit of a rip-off paying 4m for a 32 year old in the last year of his contract. Just hope he's not injury prone/past it
We need a short term fix or two to get us up! And £4m is a bargain for a player of his quality anyway.
if he's fit and his legs haven't gone yeah. looking at his career you wonder why he got to 27 only playing 200 games
Have you the right player? He is 32 and played almost 400 games. He was also virtually an ever present for two season for palace a couple of season ago and made 34 appearances last season.
If you are talking about before his England debut, you do realise they play less games in Australia?
His legs have gone.
How do he play yesterday?
How do he play yesterday?
His passing was shit but he looked decent to me in a "stop in front of the central defenders and let fuck all through" sort of role.
How do he play yesterday?
His passing was shit but he looked decent to me in a "stop in front of the central defenders and let fuck all through" sort of role.
Was he better today?
I am surprised nobody has mentioned this 3 in the middle idea before. It looks promising.
Was he better today?
Not to me
Listening to the commentary on Saturday Parker was mentioned numerous times as either passing badly or dispossessed by a Villa player.
Listening to the commentary on Saturday Parker was mentioned numerous times as either passing badly or dispossessed by a Villa player.
Listening to the commentary on Saturday Parker was mentioned numerous times as either passing badly or dispossessed by a Villa player.
First half Parker was controlling the game, in the second we, and more specifically Gardner, pressured him more and his influence was negated. A plus point for Bruce I would say, spotting the problem and making the adjustment to fix it.
Listening to the commentary on Saturday Parker was mentioned numerous times as either passing badly or dispossessed by a Villa player.
First half Parker was controlling the game, in the second we, and more specifically Gardner, pressured him more and his influence was negated. A plus point for Bruce I would say, spotting the problem and making the adjustment to fix it.
Controlling the game in their own half and about 4ft away from their own penalty box. I thought Lambert was the Manager it was so tedious
The first half was nauseating. I'm fed up with teams playing this pathetic keep ball in their own half. What purpose does it serve. Fulham actually looked as though they had one or two players that could cause us problems if they had played with any attacking intent.
When teams do this I want us to be brave enough and throw caution to the wind, press as a team and try to inject some life into proceedings.
Jedi does also tend to kick/head the ball up in the air or gluck it forward without looking.
He's been better the last two games but i expected more control
All,
Our Mile`s stats from yesterday :)
15 duals won out of 17 (11 were in the air)
7 Clearances
6 Interceptions
2 Tackles
Our MOM. We would have really struggled to get a point from this game without him.
If he can meet this level of consistency maybe he can show the doubters wrong that think his legs have gone and he is useless (he will never be a speed merchant for us).
All,
Our Mile`s stats from yesterday :)
15 duals won out of 17 (11 were in the air)
7 Clearances
6 Interceptions
2 Tackles
Our MOM. We would have really struggled to get a point from this game without him.
If he can meet this level of consistency maybe he can show the doubters wrong that think his legs have gone and he is useless (he will never be a speed merchant for us).
Before I post this I'd like to say he was rightly man of the match yesterday and did everything he was asked to but 1 other stat to add to the list:
Pass Success - 39%
All,
Our Mile`s stats from yesterday :)
15 duals won out of 17 (11 were in the air)
7 Clearances
6 Interceptions
2 Tackles
Our MOM. We would have really struggled to get a point from this game without him.
If he can meet this level of consistency maybe he can show the doubters wrong that think his legs have gone and he is useless (he will never be a speed merchant for us).
Before I post this I'd like to say he was rightly man of the match yesterday and did everything he was asked to but 1 other stat to add to the list:
Pass Success - 39%
I would say some of the 61 % passes to the opposition were clearances where we had no outlet where we sat far too deep in the 2nd half
All,
Our Mile`s stats from yesterday :)
15 duals won out of 17 (11 were in the air)
7 Clearances
6 Interceptions
2 Tackles
Our MOM. We would have really struggled to get a point from this game without him.
If he can meet this level of consistency maybe he can show the doubters wrong that think his legs have gone and he is useless (he will never be a speed merchant for us).
Before I post this I'd like to say he was rightly man of the match yesterday and did everything he was asked to but 1 other stat to add to the list:
Pass Success - 39%
I would say some of the 61 % passes to the opposition were clearances where we had no outlet where we sat far too deep in the 2nd half
Exactly, I wasn't using it to have a go at him in any way and did try to caveat that by saying he was the clear motm. The real value of having someone do the dirty job that Jedi did yesterday is if you can use the ball you're winning back to llaunch something yourself but because of how we played that was never an option so it became a job of just lumping it away and being ready for the next attack.
Parker played like an old man just safe 5 yard back passes or square ball. He rarely wasted it but didn't attempt anything risky. like a shit pirlo really.The words "Shit" and "Pirlo" do not belong in the same sentence (even though i've used `em here).
Jedinak will attempt little dinks forward now and again
All,
Our Mile`s stats from yesterday :)
15 duals won out of 17 (11 were in the air)
7 Clearances
6 Interceptions
2 Tackles
Our MOM. We would have really struggled to get a point from this game without him.
If he can meet this level of consistency maybe he can show the doubters wrong that think his legs have gone and he is useless (he will never be a speed merchant for us).
Before I post this I'd like to say he was rightly man of the match yesterday and did everything he was asked to but 1 other stat to add to the list:
Pass Success - 39%
Stepped back into the Blues half whilst the team celebrated the goal yesterday so Blues couldn't kick off.I think Mike Dean takes the credit for that, he called Jedinak back and appeared to suggest he should step back into their half.
Speaks volumes that for his experience, football brain and awareness. He'll come good.
Stepped back into the Blues half whilst the team celebrated the goal yesterday so Blues couldn't kick off.I think Mike Dean takes the credit for that, he called Jedinak back and appeared to suggest he should step back into their half.
Speaks volumes that for his experience, football brain and awareness. He'll come good.
Still misses the point that the game can only restart once he blows his whistle so I don't really get the point of him telling Jedinak to go therewhen they couldn't have restarted without his say so anyway.
Yes, but a player still in their half stops them kicking off and Dean pointedly telling Jedinak to go there means they can't try to kick off while our players are still celebrating and then going all ballistic at him when he pulls it back. Very sensible refereeing, stops any potential flashpoint with one simple action.
Yes I said exactly that at the timeYes, but a player still in their half stops them kicking off and Dean pointedly telling Jedinak to go there means they can't try to kick off while our players are still celebrating and then going all ballistic at him when he pulls it back. Very sensible refereeing, stops any potential flashpoint with one simple action.
Still think he made up a foul on our free kick right at the end of the game for that reason as well.
Yes, but a player still in their half stops them kicking off and Dean pointedly telling Jedinak to go there means they can't try to kick off while our players are still celebrating and then going all ballistic at him when he pulls it back. Very sensible refereeing, stops any potential flashpoint with one simple action.
A Nose mate of mine (one of the intelligent, successful, washed ones) was quite miffed about this on Facebook: "This really is overstepping the line. That cannot be within his purview!"
I wish Jedi would give up international football like Hutton has. At 32 he should be prolonging his club career and avoiding all these strength sapping, tiring long-haul flights. I thought he was immense yesterday. A dominant presence we've lacked for a long time.
I wish Jedi would give up international football like Hutton has. At 32 he should be prolonging his club career and avoiding all these strength sapping, tiring long-haul flights. I thought he was immense yesterday. A dominant presence we've lacked for a long time.
Thought he was outstanding today....calm, assured, solid, with a bit of vision for the ball to Kodjia.
Definitely improved to become the player I thought we had bought. Also Gardner had an excellent 2nd half. Both excellent things!
Still think we need a deep lying playmaker to attack from a different angle down the middle, no idea who that could be though.
We need another player like Jedinak in January. We need to be able give him rest and use him wisely. He's been excellent the past few games.
We need another player like Jedinak in January. We need to be able give him rest and use him wisely. He's been excellent the past few games.
I have to say, players like Jedinak are few and far between. I can't see us getting a like for like replacement and wonder whether Tishibola could be the answer as back up?
I agree that he needs to be used wisely but if he doesn't play, we weaken the side. perhaps some of the more winnable games maybe we could afford to rest him? But yesterday was a bit of a wake up call (if we needed one) of just how competetive this league is. Jedinak was massive for us yesterday and I can't imagine playing that game without him. Easy games in this league are few and far between.
A month or so ago most of us thought he was shit, now we need another one like him. As a famous philosopher once said, "it's a funny old game".
A month or so ago most of us thought he was shit, now we need another one like him. As a famous philosopher once said, "it's a funny old game".
A month or so ago most of us thought he was shit, now we need another one like him. As a famous philosopher once said, "it's a funny old game".
I think it was more the case that clueless Robbie had every player looking lost and confused. There was no defined shape or system, and no sense of tactics being employed. It appears now that Bruce has simplified the objectives for players like Jedinak which is allowing him to settle down and do what he is best at doing. And we are starting to see the player we all hoped for when he signed.
It was always going to take time to build an understanding. These things cannot be turned on like a tap. He is no different now to the player we signed. The reason why he's looking better is that he is taking control, rather than waiting for others to do it.
It was always going to take time to build an understanding. These things cannot be turned on like a tap. He is no different now to the player we signed. The reason why he's looking better is that he is taking control, rather than waiting for others to do it.
There has to be more to it than that. His performance away at Preston was truly pathetic.
A month or so ago most of us thought he was shit, now we need another one like him. As a famous philosopher once said, "it's a funny old game".
I think it was more the case that clueless Robbie had every player looking lost and confused. There was no defined shape or system, and no sense of tactics being employed. It appears now that Bruce has simplified the objectives for players like Jedinak which is allowing him to settle down and do what he is best at doing. And we are starting to see the player we all hoped for when he signed.
Making the parts better than the whole?
Making the parts better than the whole?
I agree. I like the guy but all he has done is make them a team. I think there's easily more potential in those players, but equally without X they have to propensity to be lazy bastards. Bruce has quickly solved that, but no more in my opinion.
Making the parts better than the whole?
I agree. I like the guy but all he has done is make them a team. I think there's easily more potential in those players, but equally without X they have to propensity to be lazy bastards. Bruce has quickly solved that, but no more in my opinion.
"all" he has done?
Crikey, if it was that easy, they'd be paying someone 20 grand a year to do it, not someone on Bruce's wage.
I'm not sure what more anyone could have expected from the past 7 games?
Out of interest, does anyone know what his yellow card count is?
Bruce has reduced the unnecessary noise and his experience has provided focus. It might not get us into the CL but what he brings will settle us down and eventually get us promoted.
Interestingly (or not), he hasn't been booked since Bruce took over.
Interestingly (or not), he hasn't been booked since Bruce took over.
I thought he was by far our best player, albeit he messed up for the second goal
Now officially the worst midfielder at the club.
That's not an easy title to have when you look at the other players we have.
He really is a shockingly bad player. Can't pass, can't run, can't tackle, can't control. The game just passes him by. Awful.
Now officially the worst midfielder at the club.
That's not an easy title to have when you look at the other players we have.
He really is a shockingly bad player. Can't pass, can't run, can't tackle, can't control. The game just passes him by. Awful.
Now officially the worst midfielder at the club.
That's not an easy title to have when you look at the other players we have.
He really is a shockingly bad player. Can't pass, can't run, can't tackle, can't control. The game just passes him by. Awful.
Now officially the worst midfielder at the club.
That's not an easy title to have when you look at the other players we have.
He really is a shockingly bad player. Can't pass, can't run, can't tackle, can't control. The game just passes him by. Awful.
Now officially the worst midfielder at the club.
That's not an easy title to have when you look at the other players we have.
He really is a shockingly bad player. Can't pass, can't run, can't tackle, can't control. The game just passes him by. Awful.
You are entitled to your opinion but I think you are talking rubbish. He is the only midfield player we have that can protect the back four and also the only one that can break up play. He is very limited when he has the ball but that is not his game. Also, he is the only midfield player willing to try and get his head on the ball. Like Sanchez before him, he tires badly because he is trying to cover ground that others should be and that is when he starts making mistakes.
I'd say Jedinak was
- appalling to begin with
- then inspirational, essentially as a third centre back screening th back four
- has looked more tired of late and struggled when we've reverted to a two man midfield
Is 32 years of age.Rotationally, once we have brought a couple of new MF in.
He'd make a fine squad player in this division, used rotationally.
I can take a physical blocker who lacks creativity and gives us to better players to do something with
But he gives it to the opposition again and again
I used to stick up for Jedinak but he looks as useless as everyone else in midfield these days. The only thing he offers is his heading ability, which is decent.
Jedinak was a typical lazy signinga signing, that along with Elphick, was repeatedly stated as exactly what we need by many, many people on here.
Like Westwood in that he is a limited player who is only effective in one specific role - holding midfielder in a midfield three. Also like Westwood, he gets badly found out when playing in a midfield two.
Jedinak not in squad.bit of a rip-off paying 4m for a 32 year old in the last year of his contract. Just hope he's not injury prone/past it
We need a short term fix or two to get us up! And £4m is a bargain for a player of his quality anyway.
if he's fit and his legs haven't gone yeah. looking at his career you wonder why he got to 27 only playing 200 games
Have you the right player? He is 32 and played almost 400 games. He was also virtually an ever present for two season for palace a couple of season ago and made 34 appearances last season.
If you are talking about before his England debut, you do realise they play less games in Australia?
Sickbeggar you called it right with your cautionary tale.one if only few looking back at the pages before he started and when he signed on this thread there was far too much fanfare about some passionate Australian gladiator when really we got the other sterotype of the lazy thoughtless and simple player. I think he's settled in early retirement and would be better playing mls or a league as he's without doubt the worst of the summer signings. I never rated him at palace other than an agressive so and so with a decent dead ball (learnt skill not natural) .
Jedinak not in squad.
Has Bruce seen that lansbury and houraine are the upgrade and jedinak is past it.
We knew!
Jedinak not in squad.Which would explain his recent lack of mobility
Has Bruce seen that lansbury and houraine are the upgrade and jedinak is past it.
We knew!
No - he's got a groin strain
Jedinak not in squad.
Has Bruce seen that lansbury and houraine are the upgrade and jedinak is past it.
We knew!
No - he's got a groin strain
Jedinak not in squad.
Has Bruce seen that lansbury and houraine are the upgrade and jedinak is past it.
We knew!
No - he's got a groin strain
Well with the 3 new signings for midfield Jedinak can rest on bench and not on pitch.
I don't see him as first choice . As all 3 signed can hold and give and move and tackle !
Clkearly if he can "hold and give and move and tackle" as you say, he has real value in a team that has been woefully short of all four characteristics.
Well with the 3 new signings for midfield Jedinak can rest on bench and not on pitch.
I don't see him as first choice . As all 3 signed can hold and give and move and tackle !
Are we looking at Jedinak as the holding
Im not averse ti having him left out now we have more versatile and mobile midfielders who can do his job and then some.
What is valued is his experiences and know how within squad . Much like Tommy elphick.
They help welcome players and bring on younger ones.
Jedinak
Hooray Lansbury BB
Are we looking at Jedinak as the holding
Im not averse ti having him left out now we have more versatile and mobile midfielders who can do his job and then some.
What is valued is his experiences and know how within squad . Much like Tommy elphick.
They help welcome players and bring on younger ones.
Jedinak
Hooray Lansbury BB
Who can do Jedinak's DM duties even remotely as effectively?
Whilst I do take the point that some players ability seems to improve immeasurably when not in the team, I think you have to be very short sighted if you can't see what difference Jedinak would have made to recent performances. We would have been more solid defensively but, most importantly, it would have released Lansbury to play further up the pitch. And that is where our fightback starts.
Why can't he play next season?
He drove me mad today mind with his hacking and slicing of he ball. Defensively though he's excellent.
He drove me mad today mind with his hacking and slicing of he ball. Defensively though he's excellent.
That's my view. Defensively, Jedi solidifies things greatly but his passes and particularly his heading can go absolutely anywhere
In the league with Jedi starting we're W10 D8 L6, without W1 D4 L6.Considering he was a bit shit right up to the Wolves match too, he's turned it around and we miss him when out. Solid stats those.
In the league with Jedi starting we're W10 D8 L6, without W1 D4 L6.
In the league with Jedi starting we're W10 D8 L6, without W1 D4 L6.
As a stat that looks good but how do other players compare?
Personally I think he's a limited player but must say that if he helps get us back into the Prem..fair play..
In the league with Jedi starting we're W10 D8 L6, without W1 D4 L6.
As a stat that looks good but how do other players compare?
Personally I think he's a limited player but must say that if he helps get us back into the Prem..fair play..
In the league with Jedi starting we're W10 D8 L6, without W1 D4 L6.
As a stat that looks good but how do other players compare?
Personally I think he's a limited player but must say that if he helps get us back into the Prem..fair play..
Limited he may well be but our defence seems to go to pieces whenever he's out of the team.
He drove me mad today mind with his hacking and slicing of he ball. Defensively though he's excellent.
That's my view. Defensively, Jedi solidifies things greatly but his passes and particularly his heading can go absolutely anywhere
Sanchez is a good shout for next year. Maybe not quite as combative but has more quality with the ball.
Sanchez is a good shout for next year. Maybe not quite as combative but has more quality with the ball.
2 things:
1 - His stamina is a joke. It's like he can't stay on the pitch for more than hour or he'll turn into a pumpkin.
2 - He offers the defence all the protection of a tissue paper condom.
Sanchez is a good shout for next year. Maybe not quite as combative but has more quality with the ball.
2 things:
1 - His stamina is a joke. It's like he can't stay on the pitch for more than hour or he'll turn into a pumpkin.
2 - He offers the defence all the protection of a tissue paper condom.
Sanchez is a good shout for next year. Maybe not quite as combative but has more quality with the ball.
He's basically a centre back who plays in midfield
We look massively stronger with him. Though that's partly because we don't have anyone else who can play that role. We need to sign someone in the summer or convert Tshibola to play there
He's basically a centre back who plays in midfield
We look massively stronger with him. Though that's partly because we don't have anyone else who can play that role. We need to sign someone in the summer or convert Tshibola to play there
Blimey, Tshibola. Forgot about him.
Sanchez is a good shout for next year. Maybe not quite as combative but has more quality with the ball.
2 things:
1 - His stamina is a joke. It's like he can't stay on the pitch for more than hour or he'll turn into a pumpkin.
2 - He offers the defence all the protection of a tissue paper condom.
In the league with Jedi starting we're W10 D8 L6, without W1 D4 L6.
In the league with Jedi starting we're W10 D8 L6, without W1 D4 L6.
Jedi with Chester and Baker: W9 D5 L0
Now that Jordan Lyden is back, hopefully it will allow Bruce to bring him on for 10/15/20 minutes for the tiring Jedi who is so important to us now and needs to start every game.
whatever happened to the old sweeper position that was for great players who could really read the game but just got old? You don't see many sides playing with one anymore.
Absolutely awesome today, McGrath-esque.Steady on.
Absolutely awesome today, McGrath-esque.Steady on.
Just watching him on the highlights on the post-match thread and thought he looked terrible in a few moments. Not just the back pass but also second half when their player turned, i think Chester, and Jedinak chose to stand rather than attack the ball. No, not a centre half.
Just watching him on the highlights on the post-match thread and thought he looked terrible in a few moments. Not just the back pass but also second half when their player turned, i think Chester, and Jedinak chose to stand rather than attack the ball. No, not a centre half.
You can when he fucks up in most of those 'snippets', for the record I'm a huge fan and think we are much better with him in the team.
You can when he fucks up in most of those 'snippets', for the record I'm a huge fan and think we are much better with him in the team.
That's like saying Hogan had a magnificent 90 minutes.
Just watching him on the highlights on the post-match thread and thought he looked terrible in a few moments. Not just the back pass but also second half when their player turned, i think Chester, and Jedinak chose to stand rather than attack the ball. No, not a centre half.
Sorry Pete, I just watched the whole game piss wet through and apart from that backpass ( he hadn't seen their player still lurking from a previous attack) he was bloody immense.
Just watching him on the highlights on the post-match thread and thought he looked terrible in a few moments. Not just the back pass but also second half when their player turned, i think Chester, and Jedinak chose to stand rather than attack the ball. No, not a centre half.
Sorry Pete, I just watched the whole game piss wet through and apart from that backpass ( he hadn't seen their player still lurking from a previous attack) he was bloody immense.
And i agree i can't fully judge him on a very brief highlights glimpse and it wasn't so much the back pass that alarmed me but how as the last line of defence his first instinct wasn't to get out and close the space. Then you do look at two very poor moments in a brief glimpse and then the highlights are very harsh on him or there are other areas where he may have come up short. But as you said i was wasn't there so I can't say with any authority that he was as suspect as the snapshot of him has shown.
That is an awful comparison.You can when he fucks up in most of those 'snippets', for the record I'm a huge fan and think we are much better with him in the team.
That's like saying Hogan had a magnificent 90 minutes.
didn't miss a header today
didn't miss a header today
Just wish that he could direct them in the vague direction of a team mate
I think that Jedi is wasted at centre back and it needlessly weakens the midfield.
I'm no fan of Mad Tom or the remains of what was Micah Richards but one of them should have started today
That is an awful comparison.You can when he fucks up in most of those 'snippets', for the record I'm a huge fan and think we are much better with him in the team.
That's like saying Hogan had a magnificent 90 minutes.
with Jedi in the DMF role, wouldn't Hutton be a better choice at replacement CB?didn't miss a header today
Just wish that he could direct them in the vague direction of a team mate
I think that Jedi is wasted at centre back and it needlessly weakens the midfield.
I'm no fan of Mad Tom or the remains of what was Micah Richards but one of them should have started today
A few have asked if Jedinak had a bad game based on the highlights. The blind back pass aside, he was excellent.
We missed his presence in the midfield as Gardner is no replacement for him.
Midfield was too deep and pedestrian in the first half. We didn't need six defenders on the park.
The injection of Lansbury and Hogan made a difference. The second goal was a rare moment of quality, while Hourihane puts in a mean delivery again for the first. Job done.
We never looked like conceding, which is becoming a theme. This is the sort of form that we need going into next season. Only some.minor tinkering is needed for the new campaign.
I'm confident that if we continue like this then we will go up. The football could be much better, hugely frustrating at times, but we look incredibly difficult to play and score against, while we have a couple of 20 goal of season forwards. Winning is becoming a habit.
A few have asked if Jedinak had a bad game based on the highlights. The blind back pass aside, he was excellent.
We missed his presence in the midfield as Gardner is no replacement for him.
Midfield was too deep and pedestrian in the first half. We didn't need six defenders on the park.
The injection of Lansbury and Hogan made a difference. The second goal was a rare moment of quality, while Hourihane puts in a mean delivery again for the first. Job done.
We never looked like conceding, which is becoming a theme. This is the sort of form that we need going into next season. Only some.minor tinkering is needed for the new campaign.
I'm confident that if we continue like this then we will go up. The football could be much better, hugely frustrating at times, but we look incredibly difficult to play and score against, while we have a couple of 20 goal of season forwards. Winning is becoming a habit.
But if that one on one had have been scored and where he chose to not close a player who has 5 yards from goal we should really have seen ourselves 2 down. but for their inability to take advantage of two very presentable chances no-one would be saying how excellent he was no matter how dominant he may or may not otherwise have been. Football, just like everything, its about making the right decisions and the right time. Jedinak in the briefest of highlights got two big decisions wrong. One was poor and one was him not thinking naturally as a defender. Now it's possible to argue that he could learn this, but I'd argue the other way.
A few have asked if Jedinak had a bad game based on the highlights. The blind back pass aside, he was excellent.
We missed his presence in the midfield as Gardner is no replacement for him.
Midfield was too deep and pedestrian in the first half. We didn't need six defenders on the park.
The injection of Lansbury and Hogan made a difference. The second goal was a rare moment of quality, while Hourihane puts in a mean delivery again for the first. Job done.
We never looked like conceding, which is becoming a theme. This is the sort of form that we need going into next season. Only some.minor tinkering is needed for the new campaign.
I'm confident that if we continue like this then we will go up. The football could be much better, hugely frustrating at times, but we look incredibly difficult to play and score against, while we have a couple of 20 goal of season forwards. Winning is becoming a habit.
But if that one on one had have been scored and where he chose to not close a player who has 5 yards from goal we should really have seen ourselves 2 down. but for their inability to take advantage of two very presentable chances no-one would be saying how excellent he was no matter how dominant he may or may not otherwise have been. Football, just like everything, its about making the right decisions and the right time. Jedinak in the briefest of highlights got two big decisions wrong. One was poor and one was him not thinking naturally as a defender. Now it's possible to argue that he could learn this, but I'd argue the other way.
Gregnash would be proud.
Echo what's already been said, he looked very assured and a real leader. I think their forward would have given Tom a real test but Jedinak bullied him.
Fantastic name by the way, Omar Bogle.
Actually UKR I think Bruce actually overrates Elphick and Richards.
He played Gabby while the window was open ?Actually UKR I think Bruce actually overrates Elphick and Richards.
I think you're probably right Brian but I'm hoping he is effusive in praise for Richards to recoup some money. Mind you, he had to see Gabby with his own eyes a couple of times didn't he.
I think the reason why Bruce has not brought in Richards or Elphick is that he does not want to switch Chester to the left.
He played Gabby while the window was open ?Actually UKR I think Bruce actually overrates Elphick and Richards.
I think you're probably right Brian but I'm hoping he is effusive in praise for Richards to recoup some money. Mind you, he had to see Gabby with his own eyes a couple of times didn't he.
He's a goner, he wanted rid but no one came knocking.He played Gabby while the window was open ?Actually UKR I think Bruce actually overrates Elphick and Richards.
I think you're probably right Brian but I'm hoping he is effusive in praise for Richards to recoup some money. Mind you, he had to see Gabby with his own eyes a couple of times didn't he.
Yes. He gave Gabby the opportunity to prove his worth. I can only conclude he now realises he's garbage. My concern is that he may intend to give Richards a spell.
Nor I. Something is afoot. Liposuction probably.
Nor I. Something is afoot. Liposuction probably.
Gabby was told he was going on a seafood diet; he took them at their word, when he sees food he eats it.
Nor I. Something is afoot. Liposuction probably.
Gabby was told he was going on a seafood diet; he took them at their word, when he sees food he eats it.
No it's his feet, he can't walk past a chippy.
There is a piece in the Bham Mail today (Mat Kendrick) on Jedinak. Interestingly, it says that Bruce views Jedinak's future at centre half, so I wonder if that is going to be an option next season.Maybe he think's he hasn't got the legs to play the ball winning midfielder for much longer.
I wish he would retire from International football
I wish he would retire from International football
Don't think he will until after the World Cup or as long as Australia last in the qualifying campaign.
Socceroos captain Mile Jedinak asked to play in defence for his club Aston Villa
Tom Smithies in Tehran, The Daily Telegraph
March 22, 2017 8:06pm
FOR years he has been the rock of midfield for club and country, but now a change of role beckons for Mile Jedinak — even if he doesn’t sound enthralled by the idea.
Jedinak revealed he has been asked by his club boss at Aston Villa, Steve Bruce, to consider taking up permanent residency as a central defender, a shift that Bruce is convinced could prolong Jedinak’s career.
If the prospective turn of the Jedi into a centre-half isn’t likely to translate into the international arena just yet, it adds to a tumultuous few months for the 32-year-old, in his first season at Villa since leaving Crystal Palace and dropping from the EPL to the Championship, with a change of coach, injuries and now a new role.
Jedinak seems certain to lead Australia against Iraq in tonight’s World Cup qualifier in Tehran from his usual midfield role, but has plenty on his mind to consider on the long journey back to Birmingham next week.
“The change of position in the last couple of games takes a bit of getting used to, but I’ve got full belief and confidence in doing a job there,” he said. “It’s not too dissimilar to where I play usually, and all in all it’s been quite positive. (Bruce and I) have had a discussion on the possibility of doing something like that (long term) and he’s very keen on the idea of it.
“I’ve been asked to have a think about it and see how I feel. At the moment I’m happy to play my part in any which way and if that means playing at centreback then so be it. Your focus and your experience gets you through the games, and making that transition whether temporarily or on a more permanent basis is something you can’t look down on.
“As a professional you have to take it in your stride and embrace it as much as you can. If you fight against it, it might affect your game. Especially after having a little spell out with injury, no footballer likes to have any time off. Missing games is the worst thing, having that time to see from the outside, see the boys do their thing then come back into that environment and see everyone respond, it makes you realise how much you cherish every moment you’re out on that football field.”
Nor was Jedinak concerned at potentially having contrasting roles for club and country, with Postecoglou still preferring his captain in midfield.
“The similarities between the roles are quite evident; with experience you can differentiate, and know what you have to do,” he said. “In the national team your job is clear and it’s given to you how we want to play. It can’t be mixed up, your experience allows you to differentiate. I’m just enjoying every minute of being back, and looking to take that into these couple of games which we all know are so important.”
To call much of the season difficult for Jedinak would be an understatement, with the club sliding to 20th in the Championship at one point and changing manager, and the player missing more than a month with a groin injury.
“I guess it might look like that from the outside, and certainly it’s been indifferent and not where everyone wanted to see the club,” he said. “Expectations were much higher, but whatever I have learned in the last eight months is that nothing is ever going to be easy and straightforward.
“I knew that going in anyway, but a few more (people) have realised that now and it’s starting to shift towards a positive direction. But it’s taken a lot of ups and downs to get to that point. By no means are we done with the season there’s still a lot to play for. I won’t be letting up, and I won’t be letting those around me either.”
Rumour again in the B'ham Mail about him moving? Surely not??
Injury prone, wrong side of 30, terrible with the ball and slowI agree with your assessment of him. The only thing we'd miss is his toughness and defensive qualities. We need someone to be an enforcer and an attacking threat. If possible I'd like to see the club bring in Ryan Woods of Brentford.
With him in the side we sit far too deep. No loss
Yet Micah Richards quietly steals a wage with no sign of him being binned, ever.
I really do love seeing him pissing himself laughing during any shots of the players training. Or when he occasionally has to sit on the bench to make up the numbers.
Wage thief doesn't do him justice.
Integral player that without, we were an abomination that could be cut through with ease. He's not going anywhere.
Integral player that without, we were an abomination that could be cut through with ease. He's not going anywhere.
Can you really be confident of promotion if we're relying on an ageing midfielder who will miss a fair chunk of games through internationals and likely injuries?
Integral player that without, we were an abomination that could be cut through with ease. He's not going anywhere.
Can you really be confident of promotion if we're relying on an ageing midfielder who will miss a fair chunk of games through internationals and likely injuries?
Burnley used Barton. We use Jedinak.
We had 14 games last season where Jedinak didn't play for us, 5 of them were played before he signed. We won 1 of those 14, Rotherham at home.
We had 14 games last season where Jedinak didn't play for us, 5 of them were played before he signed. We won 1 of those 14, Rotherham at home.
Yet Micah Richards quietly steals a wage with no sign of him being binned, ever.
I really do love seeing him pissing himself laughing during any shots of the players training. Or when he occasionally has to sit on the bench to make up the numbers.
Wage thief doesn't do him justice.
I was thinking about Richards when people were deliberating how best to spend Jedinak's 38k/wk wages.
Without W1 D5 L8
With W15 D9 L10
At no point was he great. You just look through the comments on him to show that he was equally poor and decent. very average overall in a very average team.
Jedinak is the sort of player who is important to team but is also massively restrictive in how we play. If we want to 442 then he can't really be one of the 2 as you can't have one of the 2 in the centre who cannot pass, which means we're always looking to get 3 in there. Given Bruce wants 2 up top that forces us to abandon width, be lopsided or play wing backs, all of which are pretty shitty options.
I don't know the right answer to this but I'm fairly certain it doesn't involve selling him to fund a move for Whelan.
I can't see us doing anything other than a variant of 442.
At no point was he great. You just look through the comments on him to show that he was equally poor and decent. very average overall in a very average team.
Why do i need to look at other people's comments to alter my own opinion? I thought he did a great job overall.
https://t.co/Tn4i46nKbl?amp=1
Per this, Bruce at least considering the 352. On the left back cover if amavi leaves:
“But we do have options.
“I’ve always got Nathan Baker in my mind. I’m not opposed to playing him there.
“Swirling around in my brain is going back to three centre-backs so we’ll see where that leaves us.”
At no point was he great. You just look through the comments on him to show that he was equally poor and decent. very average overall in a very average team.
Why do i need to look at other people's comments to alter my own opinion? I thought he did a great job overall.
Because it gives a general indicator to whether you're right or wrong. Throughout the season there were times when people thought he was good and at times they thought he was poor. not one person said he was 'great'overall. Therefore, it maybe that after the show your viewpoint may be coloured by the sands of time. I look back on the late 70s with much fondness but if most people around at the time were to say the opposite I'd probably think my opinion may be wrong and coloured by personal influences shielding me from the truth.
At no point was he great. You just look through the comments on him to show that he was equally poor and decent. very average overall in a very average team.
Why do i need to look at other people's comments to alter my own opinion? I thought he did a great job overall.
Because it gives a general indicator to whether you're right or wrong. Throughout the season there were times when people thought he was good and at times they thought he was poor. not one person said he was 'great'overall. Therefore, it maybe that after the show your viewpoint may be coloured by the sands of time. I look back on the late 70s with much fondness but if most people around at the time were to say the opposite I'd probably think my opinion may be wrong and coloured by personal influences shielding me from the truth.
But I watched him a lot last season and I thought he did well. Other people's opinions are not going to change my mind, why should they? It would be a bit like buying a book, enjoying it then changing your mind after reading the crap reviews on Amazon.
Agree, it this is not muddled thinking I don't know what is.https://t.co/Tn4i46nKbl?amp=1
Per this, Bruce at least considering the 352. On the left back cover if amavi leaves:
“But we do have options.
“I’ve always got Nathan Baker in my mind. I’m not opposed to playing him there.
“Swirling around in my brain is going back to three centre-backs so we’ll see where that leaves us.”
This bit sums up I really don't rate Bruce as a manager. Having alternative formations that you've worked on a bit as a backup within a game is one thing, not having a team shape firmly in mind when you're shopping for players is shocking.
https://t.co/Tn4i46nKbl?amp=1
Per this, Bruce at least considering the 352. On the left back cover if amavi leaves:
“But we do have options.
“I’ve always got Nathan Baker in my mind. I’m not opposed to playing him there.
“Swirling around in my brain is going back to three centre-backs so we’ll see where that leaves us.”
This bit sums up I really don't rate Bruce as a manager. Having alternative formations that you've worked on a bit as a backup within a game is one thing, not having a team shape firmly in mind when you're shopping for players is shocking.
At no point was he great. You just look through the comments on him to show that he was equally poor and decent. very average overall in a very average team.
Why do i need to look at other people's comments to alter my own opinion? I thought he did a great job overall.
Because it gives a general indicator to whether you're right or wrong. Throughout the season there were times when people thought he was good and at times they thought he was poor. not one person said he was 'great'overall. Therefore, it maybe that after the show your viewpoint may be coloured by the sands of time. I look back on the late 70s with much fondness but if most people around at the time were to say the opposite I'd probably think my opinion may be wrong and coloured by personal influences shielding me from the truth.
But I watched him a lot last season and I thought he did well. Other people's opinions are not going to change my mind, why should they? It would be a bit like buying a book, enjoying it then changing your mind after reading the crap reviews on Amazon.
Indeed. How does looking at what other people have said 'show' he was equally poor and decent? It doesn't, it just shows what some other people who have been arsed to talk about him on a thread think.
It's probably even a skewed sample as people are most likely to post about him if they've got a strong opinion one way or the other.
https://t.co/Tn4i46nKbl?amp=1
Per this, Bruce at least considering the 352. On the left back cover if amavi leaves:
“But we do have options.
“I’ve always got Nathan Baker in my mind. I’m not opposed to playing him there.
“Swirling around in my brain is going back to three centre-backs so we’ll see where that leaves us.”
This bit sums up I really don't rate Bruce as a manager. Having alternative formations that you've worked on a bit as a backup within a game is one thing, not having a team shape firmly in mind when you're shopping for players is shocking.
At no point was he great. You just look through the comments on him to show that he was equally poor and decent. very average overall in a very average team.
He's good at what he does, but I think his main 'job' is to hide defensive and midfield deficiencies. We look more solid when he's in the side, but that comes at a cost in terms of pace, passing and creativity. I'd rather have a much more solid defence and not need him to be honest. Hopefully Terry [spit] might make that more likely.
I think he will retire from international football after Russia if Australia make it so you can't blame him for having one last chance to play in a World Cup.
Why boo? Villa player scores a goal that could get his country to the next World Cup...
Aha but is it "are" or "is"?Why boo? Villa player scores a goal that could get his country to the next World Cup...
Because his country are Australia, obvs.
Just scored a penalty aswell.Almost ran a Mile. (sorry)
Ran the length of the pitch to celebrate so I think the experts on here who are advising him to retire from international football are misjudging his feelings playing for his country a little bit...
Hattrick now. FFS, why can't he score when I want him to?
Well he’s scored 2.5 goals tonight. Not bad at all. There’ll be thousands of new Villa fans across Australia after tonight! Well, a few anyway...
Well done Mile - now that's out the way, can we please have some mom performances in a Villa shirt.
Apparently he's pulled his hamstring scanning his boarding pass at WHSmith in Sydney airport and will be out for the rest of the season. He was only buying a bag of Haribo and a bottle of water FFS.
Well done Mile - now that's out the way, can we please have some mom performances in a Villa shirt.
What, is he going to put a bit of spit on a tissue and wipe the chocolate off grealish's cheek
Haha! It's a beard and dress fantasy I have.Well done Mile - now that's out the way, can we please have some mom performances in a Villa shirt.
What, is he going to put a bit of spit on a tissue and wipe the chocolate off grealish's cheek
Mmm in a bath of cold baked beans..Haha! It's a beard and dress fantasy I have.Well done Mile - now that's out the way, can we please have some mom performances in a Villa shirt.
What, is he going to put a bit of spit on a tissue and wipe the chocolate off grealish's cheek
Normally a shoulder wouldn't keep you out that long. However, as it is a shoulder injury to a pivotal player for Aston Villa, it means that he will be hospitalised for three months.
what a shame he's never looked remotely like scoring a hat trick for us. Another very disappointing signing - you look at him and he's the proverbial brick shithouse but the reality is so different.. We didn't lose many games when he played. Every team needs a player like that, he does all the dirty work.
what a shame he's never looked remotely like scoring a hat trick for us. Another very disappointing signing - you look at him and he's the proverbial brick shithouse but the reality is so different.
I don't think anyone expected him to score a hatrick. Like someone else said as well, when he played last season, we rarely lost. He's one of those players whose work goes un-noticed.
what a shame he's never looked remotely like scoring a hat trick for us. Another very disappointing signing - you look at him and he's the proverbial brick shithouse but the reality is so different.
I don't think anyone expected him to score a hatrick. Like someone else said as well, when he played last season, we rarely lost. He's one of those players whose work goes un-noticed.
way too injury proneI do agree with Steve Bruce on this, that we've been really unlucky with injuries (Kodjia, Grealish, Terry, Mile) let's not forget Jedi was one of our best players last year along with JK. Hope he comes back soon to help push us on although I fear he'll no doubt need an operation and it will be 3 months rather than 6 weeks.
He’s back in training apparently.
That would be great news
Yesterday is why, when he's fit, he plays. He has a lot of limitations as a player but the control he gives us by shutting down that channel makes the game much easier.
If he stays fit, he has to stay in the side for me. He shores up our defence and wins pretty much everything in the air in that comes his way.
If he stays fit, he has to stay in the side for me. He shores up our defence and wins pretty much everything in the air in that comes his way.
I think it was a fantastic performance from him yesterday but Saturday will be a completely different game, with the ball likely to be on the floor a lot more. I'm not a fan of BB but wonder whether he may be more suited to that position for the Fulham game?
Winner of key area in midfield and the screen to back 4. Mile was rock solid. Heard the commentators mention his screen of Gallagher and it was evident he won many duels. Great combative and physical force was very well selected in derby match yesterday . Strong contender for next match v fulhamIf he stays fit, he has to stay in the side for me. He shores up our defence and wins pretty much everything in the air in that comes his way.
I think it was a fantastic performance from him yesterday but Saturday will be a completely different game, with the ball likely to be on the floor a lot more. I'm not a fan of BB but wonder whether he may be more suited to that position for the Fulham game?
I'd stick with him. We'll need to break up Fulham's attacks and Jedinak is the master of that.
If he stays fit, he has to stay in the side for me. He shores up our defence and wins pretty much everything in the air in that comes his way.
I think it was a fantastic performance from him yesterday but Saturday will be a completely different game, with the ball likely to be on the floor a lot more. I'm not a fan of BB but wonder whether he may be more suited to that position for the Fulham game?
I wonder what the stats are when Mile plays (in his actual position as opposed to a centre back) how many we win or don't lose?
Talking of players player. I've not seen it mentioned but I'm not sure if his altercation with Ndoye from that corner was possibly a way of getting him back for his foot on Grealish? Something went on that upset Ndoye and lose it. Not sure if anyone has seen the detail?
Talking of players player. I've not seen it mentioned but I'm not sure if his altercation with Ndoye from that corner was possibly a way of getting him back for his foot on Grealish? Something went on that upset Ndoye and lose it. Not sure if anyone has seen the detail?
I'd imagine his fustration at being the shittest player on the pitch eventually spilled over into violence. It's the Birmingham City way.
Hahaha! You may well have a point. After yesterday I dared to venture on the SHA forum earlier (for some entertainment) and saw one of their fans saying Ndoye made Grealish look like Yohan Cruyff (my favourite quote of the day).Talking of players player. I've not seen it mentioned but I'm not sure if his altercation with Ndoye from that corner was possibly a way of getting him back for his foot on Grealish? Something went on that upset Ndoye and lose it. Not sure if anyone has seen the detail?
I'd imagine his fustration at being the shittest player on the pitch eventually spilled over into violence. It's the Birmingham City way.
How is he going to be fit for us next week his game away at Columbia starts at 1am our time on Thursday morning.
How is he going to be fit for us next week his game away at Columbia starts at 1am our time on Thursday morning.
They're playing that game at Craven Cottage do doubt it will kick off at 1am!
Haha fair enough. Had no idea. Thought it was a bit ludicrous to go from Norway to Columbia.
He took care of Gestede when he came on, no bother. Terrific performance.
He took care of Gestede when he came on, no bother. Terrific performance.
Did Gestede actually come on?! I mean I saw his number get shown and I heard him be announced but I can only assume he spent the whole time in Mile's pocket cause I didn't see hair nor hide of him.
Whelan seems more suited to Fulham than Jedinak
Think Onomah better able to penetrate their rear guard with his thrusting than hourihane
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Jedinak maybe can play in a back four but definitely not s back three. My mobile enough
Jedinak maybe can play in a back four but definitely not s back three. My mobile enough
He practically plays as part of a back 3 already, just 5 yards higher up the pitch.
Jedinak maybe can play in a back four but definitely not s back three. My mobile enough
Needs to go along with his wages. He's 50/50 when played at the back and his legs are going so other than being told to destroy is not much use in the middle either
Plus his wages are crippling us of course.
Lovely bloke mind.
He’s just nowhere near good enough.Has never been and probably never will be an adequate centre back.
can't he just announce his retirement from football?I think that's unfair. He's been an extremely useful player for us when played in his correct position.
can't he just announce his retirement from football?I think that's unfair. He's been an extremely useful player for us when played in his correct position.
can't he just announce his retirement from football?I think that's unfair. He's been an extremely useful player for us when played in his correct position.
I agree, I think he's been a decent signing overall. He's just not cut out to be a regular center back.
I think playing him there every now and again if it makes sense to (like Rotherham) is fine. Quitting playing for his country is going to be good for us in the long run though.
The beauty of football – and sport in general – is its ability to reflect humanity. A mere game can reveal both individual and collective strengths and flaws in character, as well as overall philosophy and outlook. In the moment, there was already something patently echoic about Mile Jedinak’s penalty against Denmark at the World Cup in June.
Looking back, with Jedinak having announced his retirement from international football on Monday, it takes on an added gravity.
Incensed over a VAR decision to give the Socceroos a penalty and lifeline in a crucial match, there stood Kasper Schmeichel, doing everything he could to impose himself – his father’s son. Yet across from him, Jedinak maintained composure and focus. The Australian captain converted, as he had done every time he was tasked with penalty duties for the national team. The perfect penalty record for the Socceroos tells a story on its own, but that moment was particularly illustrative. That glare back at Schmeichel after restoring parity highlighted that, beneath that composure and focus, laid a relentless passion and determination.
When one puts into context everything that had transpired in his career leading to that moment, it was a perfect encapsulation of Mile Jedinak the footballer, captain and person.
Making an impression at the prestigious Kvarnerska Rivijera youth tournament, he signed for Varteks Varaždin in Croatia at the age of 18. Within the first few months of the 2003-04 season however, Varteks coach Dražen Besek was replaced by the erratic Miroslav Blažević, who almost immediately banished Jedinak. Then, the homecoming to Sydney United, the New South Wales Premier League title and the regular commute from Western Sydney to Gosford to simply earn a contract with the Central Coast Mariners.
The story is now well-known.
What remains worth noting, though, is Jedinak has earned everything along the way since that return to Australia. His career path – including the return from a European move that has stagnated many a career in Australian football – reflects Jedinak’s irrepressible drive. The 34-year-old is a model not only of dedication, but of respect and belief – in oneself and others. Emerging from that kind of setback to be a part of the 2015 Asian Cup triumph – arguably the Socceroos’ greatest achievement to this point – makes for one of the best stories in Australian sport, let alone lifting the trophy as captain.
Then again, that mix of drive, focus and poise is exactly why Jedinak was captain of the Australian national team to begin with – an exemplar of the “when he speaks, everyone listens” theory. His selection as the Socceroos’ skipper is only more important when held up in contrast to Australian football and sport as a whole. Following the fractious episode of Lucas Neill vs the Australian Public, what the Socceroos needed was a leader like Jedinak, especially in the midst of sweeping generational transition. His selection as captain under Ange Postecoglou represented a significant departure from what is the norm in Australian sport, because if seniority and talent solely formed the criteria, Tim Cahill would likely have succeeded Neill.
Despite Cahill’s public profile, what Jedinak helped provide to players coming through like Trent Sainsbury, Matthew Leckie and most recently Daniel Arzani, was a steady grounding. Jedinak was not necessarily the best player whenever he pulled on the Australian shirt, but he was without doubt the best character, and the Socceroos were instantly better for his presence. When you compare him to talented but flawed leaders in recent Australian sporting history – from Ricky Ponting and Ben Cousins, to Michael Hooper and David Warner – Jedinak is as distinct as his beard.
There has been a visible physical decline in recent years, but Jedinak’s positional awareness was something the Socceroos always needed, so much so that playing him as a central defender was potentially a logical adjustment. Though he definitely has talent, Jedinak’s defining characteristic as a footballer and how that manifested within the framework of a national team squad was his intelligence, in both tactical and interpersonal senses.
The Socceroos are arguably the greatest sporting reflection of this country and Jedinak handled the role of captain with wisdom and dignity – even in the most testing of moments when he was dubbed Aussie Mike. His exit before this January’s Asian Cup, instead of pushing on for another major tournament, is only a continuation of that.
Yep I think both Mile and Whelan must've sat on the bench on Saturday watching the substitutions happening and realised their days at Aston Villa are numbered.I don't believe they would have been on the bench, if they were not in D.S. plans at some stage.
At the moment, Jedi has to be on the bench as the reserve centre back. Having Whelan there was more of a surprise to me. I expected to see Cheese Boy or Henri
At the moment, Jedi has to be on the bench as the reserve centre back. Having Whelan there was more of a surprise to me. I expected to see Cheese Boy or Henri
Cheese Boy?
At the moment, Jedi has to be on the bench as the reserve centre back. Having Whelan there was more of a surprise to me. I expected to see Cheese Boy or Henri
Cheese Boy?
Gary Stilton. Been impressing in the U23s.
I’m assuming that’s tongue in cheek.Maybe!
Finished as a player. Woeful tonight. Daft decision by Smith to play him, one I trust won't be repeated.
I'm sure it was partly rustiness. But by god that was awful.
You can't play him and hourihane as a pair and expect to play football.
He was bad, but I still think Hourihane was worse.
He was bad, but I still think Hourihane was worse.
Hourihane just looks lost. Doesn't appear to know what he's doing or where to go.
He was bad, but I still think Hourihane was worse.
Hourihane just looks lost. Doesn't appear to know what he's doing or where to go.
Hourihane but be right up there at the top of the stats for “throwing his arms up after being robbed of the ball again”.
Hourihane but be right up there at the top of the stats for “throwing his arms up after being robbed of the ball again”.
Or "needlessly giving away a free kick because you're the wrong side of your man and lack pace to recover".
They were going to rename the Doug Ellis stand after Conor, but decided it wasn't appropriate as it runs the entire length of the pitch.
Retire.
Jedinak did at least look quite fit again. He just looked very rusty but he has done in the past in his first couple of games back. We have always had far better results with a fit and fully functioning Jedinak in the team and if he's got a bit more in the tank still i'd persevere.
As for Hourahane, he's just a massive piss flap of a footballer, the quicker Grealish comes back to relieve him of his duties the better.
I'm sure it was partly rustiness. But by god that was awful.
You can't play him and hourihane as a pair and expect to knock the ball around with creativity and match their intensity
Worst passer of the ball in a Villa shirt I have ever seen.
well the next time we get a load of people moaning why Smith is playing fucking whelan again, well that's why he's playing fucking whelan again.
Jedinak did at least look quite fit again. He just looked very rusty but he has done in the past in his first couple of games back. We have always had far better results with a fit and fully functioning Jedinak in the team and if he's got a bit more in the tank still i'd persevere.
As for Hourahane, he's just a massive piss flap of a footballer, the quicker Grealish comes back to relieve him of his duties the better.
The results thing isn’t true any more. He was especially poor away at Sheff U.
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well the next time we get a load of people moaning why Smith is playing fucking whelan again, well that's why he's playing fucking whelan again.
Playing Whelan from the start is a mistake. He absolutely changes the manner in which we play. We are so much deeper and there is a massive gap between the midfield and forwards so we end up whacking it long way too often. He has offered next to nothing going forward and is too slow and old to offer anything defensively for 90 minutes.
I’m one of his biggest critics and Whelan did well when he came on last night. I wouldn’t suggest otherwise. But he’s not the answer at all. He’s a player you bring on late or in specific situations for 15-20 minutes. And last night he replaced a very ineffective Jedinak so it made him stand out even more.
well the next time we get a load of people moaning why Smith is playing fucking whelan again, well that's why he's playing fucking whelan again.
Playing Whelan from the start is a mistake. He absolutely changes the manner in which we play. We are so much deeper and there is a massive gap between the midfield and forwards so we end up whacking it long way too often. He has offered next to nothing going forward and is too slow and old to offer anything defensively for 90 minutes.
I’m one of his biggest critics and Whelan did well when he came on last night. I wouldn’t suggest otherwise. But he’s not the answer at all. He’s a player you bring on late or in specific situations for 15-20 minutes. And last night he replaced a very ineffective Jedinak so it made him stand out even more.
well I agree with you. My point is he's rubbish and shot, but he's slightly less rubbish and shot than jedinak, and barring some talent in the youth team emerging, we're stuck with either or until the end of the season.
hmmm. who's going to do the tackling or any sort of defensive responsibilities?
hmmm. who's going to do the tackling or any sort of defensive responsibilities?
We didn’t need it during the nice little November run, so I’d suggest we don’t need it when he’s back. You can of course remind me of this when we keep conceding 3 per game.
He was pretty shit at the weekend it must be said.
While he didn’t contribute like Whelan down the stretch he always gave everything to the cause and when fit and used as a DM was at times truly excellent. And the penalty and stare will go down as something we all remember as we dumped the bitters out of the Playoffs.
Good luck Mile
According to Dean, Mile was always pushing the others in training, setting good standards even if he wasn't playing himself.
Cheers Mile!
I'd have given him a short contract instead of Drinkwater who's probably on a ridiculous weekly wage. Mile would've been far more effective than Drinkwater.
So long as he does not get our U 19s growing stupid beards. Defensive hard men should be clean shaven. This is me, undisguised. What are you going to do about it?
So long as he does not get our U 19s growing stupid beards. Defensive hard men should be clean shaven. This is me, undisguised. What are you going to do about it?
Bit of an upgrade for him I guess and shouldn't be a difficult role to fil for us. What is the correct way to express well wishes to a departing staff member but also helping their new employers crash and burn?
Was he any good for us? As a loans-manager, I mean? As a player he was pretty average.
We bumped into him outside the Trinity just before the Palace game last season. Darren W asked for a photo and Jedinak was being a bit of a grumpy get. So I deliberately took my time taking the photos to piss him off more.
Of the two elder statesmen, Whelan was the far superior player.
Of the two elder statesmen, Whelan was the far superior player.
Strongly disagree there mate
Jedinak was a much better player than Whelan.
Risso’s having a nightmare today. First the leaving Villa Park thing and now this.
;-)
I thought he was one of our stand out players in 10 game winning run. Slip aside, he was superb.Of the two elder statesmen, Whelan was the far superior player.
Strongly disagree there mate
Really, I find that surprising. Whelan turned into a bit of a key man for us the year we went up, whilst Jedinak was a lot more bit part and played half the games Whelan did. To be honest, I struggle to recall more than 2-3 good games that Jedinak had for us, although I have tried to forget as much of the Championship years as possible to be fair.
Help me out here chaps. Whelan was miles better than Jedinak, surely? Which is why he played a lot more under Smith than Jedinak did. Whelan was excellent in the 10 match winning run, and Jedinak hardly had a sniff.
Help me out here chaps. Whelan was miles better than Jedinak, surely? Which is why he played a lot more under Smith than Jedinak did. Whelan was excellent in the 10 match winning run, and Jedinak hardly had a sniff.
Worst passer of the ball in a Villa shirt I have ever seen.
He was bad, but I still think Hourihane was worse.
He was the kind of player we needed at the time, a little like Steve Sims maybe.
I remember him playing away at Reading I think, winning the ball, then giving it away, winning it, then giving it away.
The AI bottled it: 'Ultimately, the determination of who is better between Jedinak and Whelan comes down to personal preference, as both players have different strengths and styles of play. Some may prefer Jedinak's defensive abilities and leadership, while others may appreciate Whelan's midfield control and work rate.'
He had his limitations but was immense, not a player you'd want to mess with.
It was a bit of posing for someone who was only good at one thing with the ball - penalties.
Time seems to have been kind to him on here. He was pretty crap as a player for us, think the thread would bear that out.
I can't help but think that fifty years ago similar would have been said about Andy Lochhead and tgeorge Curtis. He might not have been good enough for where we are now but he helped us get here and for that he deserves our thanks.
It was a bit of posing for someone who was only good at one thing with the ball - penalties.
Time seems to have been kind to him on here. He was pretty crap as a player for us, think the thread would bear that out.
I can't help but think that fifty years ago similar would have been said about Andy Lochhead and George Curtis. He might not have been good enough for where we are now but he helped us get here and for that he deserves our thanks.
I can't help but think that fifty years ago similar would have been said about Andy Lochhead and George Curtis. He might not have been good enough for where we are now but he helped us get here and for that he deserves our thanks.
Definitely
Has anybody tried putting a massive beard on Whelan?
Has anybody tried putting a massive beard on Whelan?
I think that's one of the reasons Jedinak is better, Whelan just wouldn't be able to pull off that beard.
The great Whelan Jedinak debate!!
Whealan was great in the 10 game run but beyond average before that and then the play off game it fell apart. Jedi was pretty average but two things stand out, his goal to win the 2018 play off semi final and his pen vrs Albion.
I’d say both helped to bring professionalism back to Villa after the Lescott, Richards, Agbonlaghor years.
Jedi son played in a little kids team at my sons old football club and when he appeared he was always good with the kids getting photos with him.
Thanks for helping getting us back up and good look to him.
The great Whelan Jedinak debate!!
Whealan was great in the 10 game run but beyond average before that and then the play off game it fell apart. Jedi was pretty average but two things stand out, his goal to win the 2018 play off semi final and his pen vrs Albion.
I’d say both helped to bring professionalism back to Villa after the Lescott, Richards, Agbonlaghor years.
Jedi son played in a little kids team at my sons old football club and when he appeared he was always good with the kids getting photos with him.
Thanks for helping getting us back up and good look to him.
Pretty much where I am.
Neither of them were great, but it was nice having professionals back at the club. I don't really have an opinion on who was better, but they were part of a new generation who took some personal pride, which we hadn't seen for a while.
Goodness. Chris Samba. I'd completely forgotten he'd played for us.
Goodness. Chris Samba. I'd completely forgotten he'd played for us.
Didn't Brucie stick him up front to try and nick a late equaliser?
I remember Samba smashing two players in the face with the ball in quick succession.This is funny even though that's not football!