Quote from: sickbeggar on August 15, 2016, 10:16:54 PMQuote from: Villa in Denmark on August 15, 2016, 10:05:08 PMQuote from: sickbeggar on August 15, 2016, 09:53:29 PMQuote from: Somniloquism on August 15, 2016, 09:42:12 PMQuote from: sickbeggar on August 15, 2016, 09:25:11 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on August 15, 2016, 09:22:37 PMQuote from: sickbeggar on August 15, 2016, 09:04:27 PMbit of a rip-off paying 4m for a 32 year old in the last year of his contract. Just hope he's not injury prone/past itWe need a short term fix or two to get us up! And £4m is a bargain for a player of his quality anyway.if he's fit and his legs haven't gone yeah. looking at his career you wonder why he got to 27 only playing 200 gamesHave you the right player? He is 32 and played almost 400 games. He was also virtually an ever present for two season for palace a couple of season ago and made 34 appearances last season. If you are talking about before his England debut, you do realise they play less games in Australia?Look at his record. half his games are since he signed for palace at 27. That bodes well i guess but he's the same age as Lescott was this time last year and he was shot to pieces when we bought him. I just hope we've not been mugged off againWell given his age, just under half his games coming from the age of 27 is about right, better than only 10% of them.Have you looked at his career?Slow start before establishing himself with Sydney in Oz 82 Appearances in 6 years, most of which came in the last 2. 53 appearances in 3 seasons for Central Coast Mariners in the Aussie A-league41 appearances in 3 seasons in Turkey177 appearances in the last 5 seasons for Palace.Hardly someone who's falling apart at the seams?well yes, i was wondering 17 games a season is not many. Was he injured? Mebbe that's all they play? 13 a season in turkey? Again not picked or injured. He's obviously picked up at palace, it just worries me that there's not many 32+ year old midfielders in the premiership, a few more where we are but still. I realise the transfer market has gone banana's but 4m seems steepI think it's a case of not picked. Particularly in Turkey it's not unheard for foreign signings to not settle / fall victim to 5 managers before Christmas syndrome. Other than that he was building his career in Oz or playing the vast majority of Palace's games.To be honest if he gets us promoted by playing an important role in 10 or 12 key games for us, then it's money well spent, even if his "minutes played" stats look shite.
Quote from: Villa in Denmark on August 15, 2016, 10:05:08 PMQuote from: sickbeggar on August 15, 2016, 09:53:29 PMQuote from: Somniloquism on August 15, 2016, 09:42:12 PMQuote from: sickbeggar on August 15, 2016, 09:25:11 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on August 15, 2016, 09:22:37 PMQuote from: sickbeggar on August 15, 2016, 09:04:27 PMbit of a rip-off paying 4m for a 32 year old in the last year of his contract. Just hope he's not injury prone/past itWe need a short term fix or two to get us up! And £4m is a bargain for a player of his quality anyway.if he's fit and his legs haven't gone yeah. looking at his career you wonder why he got to 27 only playing 200 gamesHave you the right player? He is 32 and played almost 400 games. He was also virtually an ever present for two season for palace a couple of season ago and made 34 appearances last season. If you are talking about before his England debut, you do realise they play less games in Australia?Look at his record. half his games are since he signed for palace at 27. That bodes well i guess but he's the same age as Lescott was this time last year and he was shot to pieces when we bought him. I just hope we've not been mugged off againWell given his age, just under half his games coming from the age of 27 is about right, better than only 10% of them.Have you looked at his career?Slow start before establishing himself with Sydney in Oz 82 Appearances in 6 years, most of which came in the last 2. 53 appearances in 3 seasons for Central Coast Mariners in the Aussie A-league41 appearances in 3 seasons in Turkey177 appearances in the last 5 seasons for Palace.Hardly someone who's falling apart at the seams?well yes, i was wondering 17 games a season is not many. Was he injured? Mebbe that's all they play? 13 a season in turkey? Again not picked or injured. He's obviously picked up at palace, it just worries me that there's not many 32+ year old midfielders in the premiership, a few more where we are but still. I realise the transfer market has gone banana's but 4m seems steep
Quote from: sickbeggar on August 15, 2016, 09:53:29 PMQuote from: Somniloquism on August 15, 2016, 09:42:12 PMQuote from: sickbeggar on August 15, 2016, 09:25:11 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on August 15, 2016, 09:22:37 PMQuote from: sickbeggar on August 15, 2016, 09:04:27 PMbit of a rip-off paying 4m for a 32 year old in the last year of his contract. Just hope he's not injury prone/past itWe need a short term fix or two to get us up! And £4m is a bargain for a player of his quality anyway.if he's fit and his legs haven't gone yeah. looking at his career you wonder why he got to 27 only playing 200 gamesHave you the right player? He is 32 and played almost 400 games. He was also virtually an ever present for two season for palace a couple of season ago and made 34 appearances last season. If you are talking about before his England debut, you do realise they play less games in Australia?Look at his record. half his games are since he signed for palace at 27. That bodes well i guess but he's the same age as Lescott was this time last year and he was shot to pieces when we bought him. I just hope we've not been mugged off againWell given his age, just under half his games coming from the age of 27 is about right, better than only 10% of them.Have you looked at his career?Slow start before establishing himself with Sydney in Oz 82 Appearances in 6 years, most of which came in the last 2. 53 appearances in 3 seasons for Central Coast Mariners in the Aussie A-league41 appearances in 3 seasons in Turkey177 appearances in the last 5 seasons for Palace.Hardly someone who's falling apart at the seams?
Quote from: Somniloquism on August 15, 2016, 09:42:12 PMQuote from: sickbeggar on August 15, 2016, 09:25:11 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on August 15, 2016, 09:22:37 PMQuote from: sickbeggar on August 15, 2016, 09:04:27 PMbit of a rip-off paying 4m for a 32 year old in the last year of his contract. Just hope he's not injury prone/past itWe need a short term fix or two to get us up! And £4m is a bargain for a player of his quality anyway.if he's fit and his legs haven't gone yeah. looking at his career you wonder why he got to 27 only playing 200 gamesHave you the right player? He is 32 and played almost 400 games. He was also virtually an ever present for two season for palace a couple of season ago and made 34 appearances last season. If you are talking about before his England debut, you do realise they play less games in Australia?Look at his record. half his games are since he signed for palace at 27. That bodes well i guess but he's the same age as Lescott was this time last year and he was shot to pieces when we bought him. I just hope we've not been mugged off again
Quote from: sickbeggar on August 15, 2016, 09:25:11 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on August 15, 2016, 09:22:37 PMQuote from: sickbeggar on August 15, 2016, 09:04:27 PMbit of a rip-off paying 4m for a 32 year old in the last year of his contract. Just hope he's not injury prone/past itWe need a short term fix or two to get us up! And £4m is a bargain for a player of his quality anyway.if he's fit and his legs haven't gone yeah. looking at his career you wonder why he got to 27 only playing 200 gamesHave you the right player? He is 32 and played almost 400 games. He was also virtually an ever present for two season for palace a couple of season ago and made 34 appearances last season. If you are talking about before his England debut, you do realise they play less games in Australia?
Quote from: saunders_heroes on August 15, 2016, 09:22:37 PMQuote from: sickbeggar on August 15, 2016, 09:04:27 PMbit of a rip-off paying 4m for a 32 year old in the last year of his contract. Just hope he's not injury prone/past itWe need a short term fix or two to get us up! And £4m is a bargain for a player of his quality anyway.if he's fit and his legs haven't gone yeah. looking at his career you wonder why he got to 27 only playing 200 games
Quote from: sickbeggar on August 15, 2016, 09:04:27 PMbit of a rip-off paying 4m for a 32 year old in the last year of his contract. Just hope he's not injury prone/past itWe need a short term fix or two to get us up! And £4m is a bargain for a player of his quality anyway.
bit of a rip-off paying 4m for a 32 year old in the last year of his contract. Just hope he's not injury prone/past it
He'll be able to provide us with some force in midfield. Good mind games with the opposition too...
Parker (there are other examples) showing that a player can boss games in the championship for a few years after they have shot their PL bolt.
Quote from: Villa in Denmark on August 15, 2016, 10:22:39 PMQuote from: sickbeggar on August 15, 2016, 10:16:54 PMQuote from: Villa in Denmark on August 15, 2016, 10:05:08 PMQuote from: sickbeggar on August 15, 2016, 09:53:29 PMQuote from: Somniloquism on August 15, 2016, 09:42:12 PMQuote from: sickbeggar on August 15, 2016, 09:25:11 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on August 15, 2016, 09:22:37 PMQuote from: sickbeggar on August 15, 2016, 09:04:27 PMbit of a rip-off paying 4m for a 32 year old in the last year of his contract. Just hope he's not injury prone/past itWe need a short term fix or two to get us up! And £4m is a bargain for a player of his quality anyway.if he's fit and his legs haven't gone yeah. looking at his career you wonder why he got to 27 only playing 200 gamesHave you the right player? He is 32 and played almost 400 games. He was also virtually an ever present for two season for palace a couple of season ago and made 34 appearances last season. If you are talking about before his England debut, you do realise they play less games in Australia?Look at his record. half his games are since he signed for palace at 27. That bodes well i guess but he's the same age as Lescott was this time last year and he was shot to pieces when we bought him. I just hope we've not been mugged off againWell given his age, just under half his games coming from the age of 27 is about right, better than only 10% of them.Have you looked at his career?Slow start before establishing himself with Sydney in Oz 82 Appearances in 6 years, most of which came in the last 2. 53 appearances in 3 seasons for Central Coast Mariners in the Aussie A-league41 appearances in 3 seasons in Turkey177 appearances in the last 5 seasons for Palace.Hardly someone who's falling apart at the seams?well yes, i was wondering 17 games a season is not many. Was he injured? Mebbe that's all they play? 13 a season in turkey? Again not picked or injured. He's obviously picked up at palace, it just worries me that there's not many 32+ year old midfielders in the premiership, a few more where we are but still. I realise the transfer market has gone banana's but 4m seems steepI think it's a case of not picked. Particularly in Turkey it's not unheard for foreign signings to not settle / fall victim to 5 managers before Christmas syndrome. Other than that he was building his career in Oz or playing the vast majority of Palace's games.To be honest if he gets us promoted by playing an important role in 10 or 12 key games for us, then it's money well spent, even if his "minutes played" stats look shite.well, yeah, if we get jedinak from his time at palace i don't think anyone will complain. If he's been shifted because he's shot his bolt, and they're cashing in, well........
Quote from: themossman on August 15, 2016, 10:29:34 PMParker (there are other examples) showing that a player can boss games in the championship for a few years after they have shot their PL bolt.yeah there is, just not that many. The problem is you just don't know if he'll do a job till 35 or that's it. Again Lescott, praised all through his last season for the barcodes, totally gone legswise when he turned up here. They knew...
Quote from: sickbeggar on August 15, 2016, 10:26:30 PMQuote from: Villa in Denmark on August 15, 2016, 10:22:39 PMQuote from: sickbeggar on August 15, 2016, 10:16:54 PMQuote from: Villa in Denmark on August 15, 2016, 10:05:08 PMQuote from: sickbeggar on August 15, 2016, 09:53:29 PMQuote from: Somniloquism on August 15, 2016, 09:42:12 PMQuote from: sickbeggar on August 15, 2016, 09:25:11 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on August 15, 2016, 09:22:37 PMQuote from: sickbeggar on August 15, 2016, 09:04:27 PMbit of a rip-off paying 4m for a 32 year old in the last year of his contract. Just hope he's not injury prone/past itWe need a short term fix or two to get us up! And £4m is a bargain for a player of his quality anyway.if he's fit and his legs haven't gone yeah. looking at his career you wonder why he got to 27 only playing 200 gamesHave you the right player? He is 32 and played almost 400 games. He was also virtually an ever present for two season for palace a couple of season ago and made 34 appearances last season. If you are talking about before his England debut, you do realise they play less games in Australia?Look at his record. half his games are since he signed for palace at 27. That bodes well i guess but he's the same age as Lescott was this time last year and he was shot to pieces when we bought him. I just hope we've not been mugged off againWell given his age, just under half his games coming from the age of 27 is about right, better than only 10% of them.Have you looked at his career?Slow start before establishing himself with Sydney in Oz 82 Appearances in 6 years, most of which came in the last 2. 53 appearances in 3 seasons for Central Coast Mariners in the Aussie A-league41 appearances in 3 seasons in Turkey177 appearances in the last 5 seasons for Palace.Hardly someone who's falling apart at the seams?well yes, i was wondering 17 games a season is not many. Was he injured? Mebbe that's all they play? 13 a season in turkey? Again not picked or injured. He's obviously picked up at palace, it just worries me that there's not many 32+ year old midfielders in the premiership, a few more where we are but still. I realise the transfer market has gone banana's but 4m seems steepI think it's a case of not picked. Particularly in Turkey it's not unheard for foreign signings to not settle / fall victim to 5 managers before Christmas syndrome. Other than that he was building his career in Oz or playing the vast majority of Palace's games.To be honest if he gets us promoted by playing an important role in 10 or 12 key games for us, then it's money well spent, even if his "minutes played" stats look shite.well, yeah, if we get jedinak from his time at palace i don't think anyone will complain. If he's been shifted because he's shot his bolt, and they're cashing in, well........Just go on there forum for 5 minutes, this is not a player that has 'shot his bolt', the majority want him to stay and are questioning Padews judgement.
True but think the biggest factor with lescott was that he didn't/doesn't give a shit, rather than the legs going.