Quote from: four fornicholl on September 07, 2017, 08:53:37 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on September 07, 2017, 08:47:34 PMQuote from: four fornicholl on September 07, 2017, 08:45:31 PMQuote from: Drummond on September 07, 2017, 08:41:26 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on September 07, 2017, 07:21:26 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on September 07, 2017, 06:23:15 PMEllis wins hands down. He came back to a club hugely fortunate that was Kings of Europe. It takes a massive kind of shit at what you do to get that side relegated in 5 years. What happened after and any successes subsequently should never diminish that. It's like saying Lerner should been allowed to bring us back up and reducing the 2010-2016 era to a few pages in history to be rebated over how bad it was. What a load of old cobblers!Fancy responding to the rest? Or are you just going to continue with your position?Doubt you'll see Randy rapped in a blanket, in the Trinity, in Winter, any time soon.Give me the money Ellis made out of the Villa and I'd sit there stark naked.Why, if he doesn't love "The Villa" does he keep turning up?Because there's nowhere else in the world where he is well-known.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on September 07, 2017, 08:47:34 PMQuote from: four fornicholl on September 07, 2017, 08:45:31 PMQuote from: Drummond on September 07, 2017, 08:41:26 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on September 07, 2017, 07:21:26 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on September 07, 2017, 06:23:15 PMEllis wins hands down. He came back to a club hugely fortunate that was Kings of Europe. It takes a massive kind of shit at what you do to get that side relegated in 5 years. What happened after and any successes subsequently should never diminish that. It's like saying Lerner should been allowed to bring us back up and reducing the 2010-2016 era to a few pages in history to be rebated over how bad it was. What a load of old cobblers!Fancy responding to the rest? Or are you just going to continue with your position?Doubt you'll see Randy rapped in a blanket, in the Trinity, in Winter, any time soon.Give me the money Ellis made out of the Villa and I'd sit there stark naked.Why, if he doesn't love "The Villa" does he keep turning up?
Quote from: four fornicholl on September 07, 2017, 08:45:31 PMQuote from: Drummond on September 07, 2017, 08:41:26 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on September 07, 2017, 07:21:26 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on September 07, 2017, 06:23:15 PMEllis wins hands down. He came back to a club hugely fortunate that was Kings of Europe. It takes a massive kind of shit at what you do to get that side relegated in 5 years. What happened after and any successes subsequently should never diminish that. It's like saying Lerner should been allowed to bring us back up and reducing the 2010-2016 era to a few pages in history to be rebated over how bad it was. What a load of old cobblers!Fancy responding to the rest? Or are you just going to continue with your position?Doubt you'll see Randy rapped in a blanket, in the Trinity, in Winter, any time soon.Give me the money Ellis made out of the Villa and I'd sit there stark naked.
Quote from: Drummond on September 07, 2017, 08:41:26 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on September 07, 2017, 07:21:26 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on September 07, 2017, 06:23:15 PMEllis wins hands down. He came back to a club hugely fortunate that was Kings of Europe. It takes a massive kind of shit at what you do to get that side relegated in 5 years. What happened after and any successes subsequently should never diminish that. It's like saying Lerner should been allowed to bring us back up and reducing the 2010-2016 era to a few pages in history to be rebated over how bad it was. What a load of old cobblers!Fancy responding to the rest? Or are you just going to continue with your position?Doubt you'll see Randy rapped in a blanket, in the Trinity, in Winter, any time soon.
Quote from: saunders_heroes on September 07, 2017, 07:21:26 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on September 07, 2017, 06:23:15 PMEllis wins hands down. He came back to a club hugely fortunate that was Kings of Europe. It takes a massive kind of shit at what you do to get that side relegated in 5 years. What happened after and any successes subsequently should never diminish that. It's like saying Lerner should been allowed to bring us back up and reducing the 2010-2016 era to a few pages in history to be rebated over how bad it was. What a load of old cobblers!Fancy responding to the rest? Or are you just going to continue with your position?
Quote from: Toronto Villa on September 07, 2017, 06:23:15 PMEllis wins hands down. He came back to a club hugely fortunate that was Kings of Europe. It takes a massive kind of shit at what you do to get that side relegated in 5 years. What happened after and any successes subsequently should never diminish that. It's like saying Lerner should been allowed to bring us back up and reducing the 2010-2016 era to a few pages in history to be rebated over how bad it was. What a load of old cobblers!
Ellis wins hands down. He came back to a club hugely fortunate that was Kings of Europe. It takes a massive kind of shit at what you do to get that side relegated in 5 years. What happened after and any successes subsequently should never diminish that. It's like saying Lerner should been allowed to bring us back up and reducing the 2010-2016 era to a few pages in history to be rebated over how bad it was.
Quote from: four fornicholl on September 07, 2017, 08:53:37 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on September 07, 2017, 08:47:34 PMQuote from: four fornicholl on September 07, 2017, 08:45:31 PMQuote from: Drummond on September 07, 2017, 08:41:26 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on September 07, 2017, 07:21:26 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on September 07, 2017, 06:23:15 PMEllis wins hands down. He came back to a club hugely fortunate that was Kings of Europe. It takes a massive kind of shit at what you do to get that side relegated in 5 years. What happened after and any successes subsequently should never diminish that. It's like saying Lerner should been allowed to bring us back up and reducing the 2010-2016 era to a few pages in history to be rebated over how bad it was. What a load of old cobblers!Fancy responding to the rest? Or are you just going to continue with your position?Doubt you'll see Randy rapped in a blanket, in the Trinity, in Winter, any time soon.Give me the money Ellis made out of the Villa and I'd sit there stark naked.Why, if he doesn't love "The Villa" does he keep turning up?Because he's got no friends or anything else to do, apparently.
You really aren't too far off with that comment. I am sure after years of working he has developed an affinity with the place buy this "Mr Aston Villa, bleeds claret and blue" bollocks is just that
Lerner fucked up spectacularly and was ultimately a disaster, he never treated a great Villa man like shit though.
Quote from: cheltenhamlion on September 07, 2017, 09:01:50 PMYou really aren't too far off with that comment. I am sure after years of working he has developed an affinity with the place buy this "Mr Aston Villa, bleeds claret and blue" bollocks is just that That's my take on it. An affinity, yes. The only place where he feels wanted - it's not just me that says it. But as I've said before and I'll continue to say, the greatest trick Doug ever performed was to persuade many Villa supporters that he feels the same for the club as they do.
Quote from: PeterWithesShin on September 07, 2017, 09:00:34 PMLerner fucked up spectacularly and was ultimately a disaster, he never treated a great Villa man like shit though. I was once on the same table as Lerner and I said something very funny and he didn't laugh. I felt totally offended and as I am a great Villa man what do you have to say about that?
Quote from: dave.woodhall on September 07, 2017, 09:04:47 PMQuote from: cheltenhamlion on September 07, 2017, 09:01:50 PMYou really aren't too far off with that comment. I am sure after years of working he has developed an affinity with the place buy this "Mr Aston Villa, bleeds claret and blue" bollocks is just that That's my take on it. An affinity, yes. The only place where he feels wanted - it's not just me that says it. But as I've said before and I'll continue to say, the greatest trick Doug ever performed was to persuade many Villa supporters that he feels the same for the club as they do. It's a very cynical view though. I mean how can you honestly say you can claim to know what one person loves or just pretends to love?
Personally, I consider treating the manager of the greatest ever moment in our history like shit, and then treating his widow and family like shit is worse. Lerner fucked up spectacularly and was ultimately a disaster, he never treated a great Villa man like shit though. May also be worth thinking why Super Ron never visited VP under Ellis apart from the Barton game, and yet was back under Lerner. And why so many of the 80-82 side hate Ellis.
Quote from: olaftab on September 07, 2017, 09:06:37 PMQuote from: PeterWithesShin on September 07, 2017, 09:00:34 PMLerner fucked up spectacularly and was ultimately a disaster, he never treated a great Villa man like shit though. I was once on the same table as Lerner and I said something very funny and he didn't laugh. I felt totally offended and as I am a great Villa man what do you have to say about that?Knowing you it wasn't funny.
Quote from: saunders_heroes on September 07, 2017, 09:07:39 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on September 07, 2017, 09:04:47 PMQuote from: cheltenhamlion on September 07, 2017, 09:01:50 PMYou really aren't too far off with that comment. I am sure after years of working he has developed an affinity with the place buy this "Mr Aston Villa, bleeds claret and blue" bollocks is just that That's my take on it. An affinity, yes. The only place where he feels wanted - it's not just me that says it. But as I've said before and I'll continue to say, the greatest trick Doug ever performed was to persuade many Villa supporters that he feels the same for the club as they do. It's a very cynical view though. I mean how can you honestly say you can claim to know what one person loves or just pretends to love?If I'm wrong then so are a lot of others, many of whom know a lot more about him and the Villa than I could ever claim to know.
There's no maybe about it, Lerner was shit but never deliberately shit on anyone, he was just incompetent. There's no maybe that Ellis treated Barton, and later his family, like shit and did it deliberately and with spite. There's no maybe how many of the 80-82 side hate Ellis.