Welcome Roberto Di Matteo and Steve Clarke

[GarTomas]

What does it matter how much he cost?

My point isn't around the cost being too high, more that if you're paying that much for a player that player has clearly established themselves as being talented or having the potential to be the same.  Thus that player has hardly been unearthed nor is it a surprise when they perform well.

[mike]

So people in a football ground chanting 'get your tits out for the lads' is akin to assaulting a woman in the street?  FFS.  It may not be pleasant Dave but it's a ridiculous comparison.  If you read my posts carefully you will note I have always said it isn't nice behavior and we could do without it.  But I don't think it is akin to the racism we saw in the 70's and 80's.  Nor do I think it's akin to assaulting a woman in the street.  Maybe you do.  Shall we leave it there?

It may not be as bad but the principle is the same. If someone says, or does, something towards you that you don't want it's unacceptable and can lead to worse. But what's up darlin' got no sense of humour? You know you love it really.

I had to teach diversity to a load of police. To help them get it, I said, 'how would you feel if you got a brick through your window?' Obviously they'd be concerned. How about a brick wrapped in a note saying 'pig'. Ahhh, now they're really rattled because they don't know what's coming next. It's the same with women and sexist banter. It may be bad taste 'fun' or it may be a full on Sid the sexist/pervert who represents a threat. They can't and shouldn't have to guess, and whatever the intent it ain't very nice to hear.. As Dave says, it's easier to just avoid the situation in the first place. So, no women or very few women, in lots of roles. I have a two year old girl who is stratospherically intelligent and confident. It will be sad if any of this bollocks holds her back.

[Chris Jameson]

I have never in my life shouted any racist abuse at anyone, and I am in my 50s

I think you mean your opinions on women are rooted in the fifties.

[mike]

What does it matter how much he cost?

My point isn't around the cost being too high, more that if you're paying that much for a player that player has clearly established themselves as being talented or having the potential to be the same.  Thus that player has hardly been unearthed nor is it a surprise when they perform well.

What does it matter how much he cost?

My point isn't around the cost being too high, more that if you're paying that much for a player that player has clearly established themselves as being talented or having the potential to be the same.  Thus that player has hardly been unearthed nor is it a surprise when they perform well.

I suspect there is a punitive element to the damages to reflect the wasted court time and extra distress to her for not settling when they were clearly in the wrong. The court will have felt their refusal to apologise for such manifestly awful treatment was an aggravating feature, I would imagine.

[Whiney MacWhineface]

I have never in my life shouted any racist abuse at anyone, and I am in my 50s

I think you mean your opinions on women are rooted in the fifties.

I think this is a Viz character come to life. With supporting cast.

Amazing stuff.

[PeterWithesShin]

What does it matter how much he cost?

My point isn't around the cost being too high, more that if you're paying that much for a player that player has clearly established themselves as being talented or having the potential to be the same.  Thus that player has hardly been unearthed nor is it a surprise when they perform well.

I suspect there is a punitive element to the damages to reflect the wasted court time and extra distress to her for not settling when they were clearly in the wrong. The court will have felt their refusal to apologise for such manifestly awful treatment was an aggravating feature, I would imagine.

Mike, they are talking about Eden Hazard.

[Chris Jameson]

I have never in my life shouted any racist abuse at anyone, and I am in my 50s

I think you mean your opinions on women are rooted in the fifties.

I think this is a Viz character come to life. With supporting cast.

Amazing stuff.

Depressing.

[edgysatsuma89]

What does it matter how much he cost?

My point isn't around the cost being too high, more that if you're paying that much for a player that player has clearly established themselves as being talented or having the potential to be the same.  Thus that player has hardly been unearthed nor is it a surprise when they perform well.

I suspect there is a punitive element to the damages to reflect the wasted court time and extra distress to her for not settling when they were clearly in the wrong. The court will have felt their refusal to apologise for such manifestly awful treatment was an aggravating feature, I would imagine.

Mike, they are talking about Eden Hazard.

Has he got a decent pair of tits? Not interested otherwise.

[Villa in Denmark]

What does it matter how much he cost?

My point isn't around the cost being too high, more that if you're paying that much for a player that player has clearly established themselves as being talented or having the potential to be the same.  Thus that player has hardly been unearthed nor is it a surprise when they perform well.

I suspect there is a punitive element to the damages to reflect the wasted court time and extra distress to her for not settling when they were clearly in the wrong. The court will have felt their refusal to apologise for such manifestly awful treatment was an aggravating feature, I would imagine.

Mike, they are talking about Eden Hazard.

Has he got a decent pair of tits? Not interested otherwise.

A pair of tits? We've got a squad chock full of tits.

[Karl Bridges]

So is this the right place to welcome RDM & his new backroom team then?

[edgysatsuma89]

A pair of tits? We've got a squad chock full of tits.

Gabby is well endowed in particular but his mireable face VID... It's a real boner killer.

[Ads]

What does it matter how much he cost?

My point isn't around the cost being too high, more that if you're paying that much for a player that player has clearly established themselves as being talented or having the potential to be the same.  Thus that player has hardly been unearthed nor is it a surprise when they perform well.

What does it matter how much he cost?

My point isn't around the cost being too high, more that if you're paying that much for a player that player has clearly established themselves as being talented or having the potential to be the same.  Thus that player has hardly been unearthed nor is it a surprise when they perform well.

I suspect there is a punitive element to the damages to reflect the wasted court time and extra distress to her for not settling when they were clearly in the wrong. The court will have felt their refusal to apologise for such manifestly awful treatment was an aggravating feature, I would imagine.

We don't do punitive damages in England and Wales.

[Richard E]

You can get aggravated damages in the Employment Tribunal and this would include a situation where the conduct of the litigation by the employer exacerbates the hurt feelings - the leading case involved a firm of Solicitors from Birmingham if I remember correctly, but as Ads says these would still be compensation and not punitive and there is no way it would run into the millions.

If they have paid her anything like £5 million then this is to shut her up - I cannot conceive of circumstances where her claim would be worth anything like that much. She has not been rendered permanently unemployable. 

[Bad English]

"filho/filha do/da puta" is a general expletive in the Portuguese language, a bit like FFS or son of a bitch is in ours. I don't think she was wrong to take offence though.

A 'general' expletive? Calling one's mother a whore? Really?

I will let Rudy comment on the Portuguese but in French calling someone a 'fils/fille de pute" is almost as bad as calling someone  a 'c***' in English.

[peter w]

So people in a football ground chanting 'get your tits out for the lads' is akin to assaulting a woman in the street?  FFS.  It may not be pleasant Dave but it's a ridiculous comparison.  If you read my posts carefully you will note I have always said it isn't nice behavior and we could do without it.  But I don't think it is akin to the racism we saw in the 70's and 80's.  Nor do I think it's akin to assaulting a woman in the street.  Maybe you do.  Shall we leave it there?

It may not be as bad but the principle is the same. If someone says, or does, something towards you that you don't want it's unacceptable and can lead to worse. But what's up darlin' got no sense of humour? You know you love it really.

But what;s the starting point to these prevailing attitudes? Playground, television, family, cultural experience? And remember there's a topic in the Off Topic section where we're encouraged to ogle women.