Quote from: Dave Cooper please on May 15, 2016, 01:34:21 AMGood pubs don't shut. I live in an area similar to Aston if we are talking ethnicity, we have had several pubs shut down in the last few years but they were all the ones that refused to move with the times. I'm all for your traditional boozer but if the punters are no longer drinking there then they must be going somewhere better, if that is home then the pub has failed to make their pub better than sitting in front of the TV, their fault.Of all the pubs that have closed within a 2 mile radius of my house just about all of them have been the sort of average boozer I wouldn't bother to go in because it has nothing to offer apart from a lager and John Smiths. the age of the "local" has gone, we want more from our pub than just being down the road.I agree with most of this, but I would say there are plenty of people who just want a pint of Carling and watch Sky Sports or whatever. They are usually quite lazy, though, and if the pub is handy for them it will still flourish. With a place like the Aston Hotel, or the Bartons for that matter, they have to offer something special to get people to consider going there. And with Birmingham's public transport being so bad, it has to be something special to warrant the journey. Great beer, food and a nice building usually swings it. The Aston Hotel could be a success with the right owner, just like another crumbling old institution in the vicinity.
Good pubs don't shut. I live in an area similar to Aston if we are talking ethnicity, we have had several pubs shut down in the last few years but they were all the ones that refused to move with the times. I'm all for your traditional boozer but if the punters are no longer drinking there then they must be going somewhere better, if that is home then the pub has failed to make their pub better than sitting in front of the TV, their fault.Of all the pubs that have closed within a 2 mile radius of my house just about all of them have been the sort of average boozer I wouldn't bother to go in because it has nothing to offer apart from a lager and John Smiths. the age of the "local" has gone, we want more from our pub than just being down the road.
Quote from: el león Benidorm on May 13, 2016, 04:24:47 PMQuote from: brian green on May 13, 2016, 04:12:52 PMOne way of solving the match days only trade problem could be like the system used at the races. Contractors man the pumps on days when there is demand. Problem is the drink prices go sky high to cover the uneconomic opening pattern. A pint of lager bought from, say, Letherby and Christopher at Newmarket would be very much higher than a 365 days a year pub.One of the other ways is to close half the pub off that isn't being used on none match days. Use a skeleton staff to keep the turnover. Most pubs outside a city centre rely on weekend trade which buffers the quieter times.The breweries need to acknowledge this and not screw the tenants with extortionate prices on beer.The main issue is that most of the time the breweries will see it as a problem unit, and put rookie licensees in there or managers on rotation. They do not care and are looking constantly at the calendar on when they are leaving as opposed to someone who will take it and make it work.Football pubs are hard premises to run, but if run right, they can make great venues.Most pubs aren't owned by breweries now; they're privately owned. The running costs for a place like that must be high even if you only have one room open. It's been shut for a couple of years and better a building like that open as something else than empty and vandalised.
Quote from: brian green on May 13, 2016, 04:12:52 PMOne way of solving the match days only trade problem could be like the system used at the races. Contractors man the pumps on days when there is demand. Problem is the drink prices go sky high to cover the uneconomic opening pattern. A pint of lager bought from, say, Letherby and Christopher at Newmarket would be very much higher than a 365 days a year pub.One of the other ways is to close half the pub off that isn't being used on none match days. Use a skeleton staff to keep the turnover. Most pubs outside a city centre rely on weekend trade which buffers the quieter times.The breweries need to acknowledge this and not screw the tenants with extortionate prices on beer.The main issue is that most of the time the breweries will see it as a problem unit, and put rookie licensees in there or managers on rotation. They do not care and are looking constantly at the calendar on when they are leaving as opposed to someone who will take it and make it work.Football pubs are hard premises to run, but if run right, they can make great venues.
One way of solving the match days only trade problem could be like the system used at the races. Contractors man the pumps on days when there is demand. Problem is the drink prices go sky high to cover the uneconomic opening pattern. A pint of lager bought from, say, Letherby and Christopher at Newmarket would be very much higher than a 365 days a year pub.
Enterprise have always been a separate company and I can't think of a pub around Villa Park that's ever been owned by a pubco.
The loss of the aston hotel, guild arms, ads, britianna, the upper grounds, barn social and vine shows the demise and the unctrolable change not only of B6 but in most inner cities of the UK. I ws hoping the club would buy the aston hotel, instead it's accommodation for homeless people the locals were never pre advised ,and makes the area look more of slum than it already its. Loss of the aston transport museum was a tragedy, as it contained the history of Birmingham. Pakistani/Bangladeshi wedding venus have replaces the barn, upper grounds and one next to the transport museum have opened. Theirs an opportunity for them to open a bar, but unlike the Indian community they will not provide this service. If look at north west birmingham/Sandwell pubs are thriving with curries and mixed grills even recently the bell on booths farm road great Barr was up sale and brought by people who turned in to a curry pub but still kept traditions and the locals and regulars are happy.
Quote from: rim gk on October 27, 2017, 11:38:16 AMThe loss of the aston hotel, guild arms, ads, britianna, the upper grounds, barn social and vine shows the demise and the unctrolable change not only of B6 but in most inner cities of the UK. I ws hoping the club would buy the aston hotel, instead it's accommodation for homeless people the locals were never pre advised ,and makes the area look more of slum than it already its. Loss of the aston transport museum was a tragedy, as it contained the history of Birmingham. Pakistani/Bangladeshi wedding venus have replaces the barn, upper grounds and one next to the transport museum have opened. Theirs an opportunity for them to open a bar, but unlike the Indian community they will not provide this service. If look at north west birmingham/Sandwell pubs are thriving with curries and mixed grills even recently the bell on booths farm road great Barr was up sale and brought by people who turned in to a curry pub but still kept traditions and the locals and regulars are happy.Can you recall any major rucks in Aston hotel in your time there?
Match day drinking at vp is poor to say the least with so few options every open establishment has a right to charge. The alternatives are the holte suite and pub. The suite atmosphere dead and pub lions club members only
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