When does the Booing stop....

[aj2k77]

It wont stop with this current bunch. They.ve shown lack of respect and contempt for our club and now are receiving it back.

[Nunkin1965]

Leandro Bacuna offers nothing in this team.
He can't tackle.
He doesn't track.
He's not positive in possession.
He constantly, annoyingly takes the easy pass option.
He can't cross a football.
He can't take set pieces.
He has no passion.
He has no drive.
He has no desire.
He's not just a kid anymore.
He's not digging his teammates out when mistakes are made. (mind you who is apart from us)
He's one of the more experienced members of the squad yet he takes little or no responsibility in the team.
He can't do press interviews. How about saying " it's a flattering thought, but I'm contracted to Aston Villa Football Club. It's an honour to play for them."
He's stealing a living out of one of the most famous football clubs on the planet.

[Villa in Denmark]

I've got at least 4 years of booing left in me.
Payback!!!!

At the price of any remote hope of beating Newcastle?  Retaining any of our better players?  Hope you enjoy your payback, but whilst you are having you fun bear in mind it can't possibly be anything other than counter productive.  The point has already been made loud and clear.

I'll take a leap in the dark and say that was at least partly tongue in cheek.

[Villa in Denmark]

Shows your utter nativity when it comes to sport. 

If only we had three wise men and a saviour.

We found 3 wise men, but two had a major falling out with the man upstairs (or should that be downstairs) and f##ked off.  It wouldn't have been too bad, but they must have waltzed off with the Frankincense and Myrrh, as there's a nasty smell about the place again and we all know that there's no gold to be had anywhere near the man up/downstairs.

[London Villan]

Not sure where to reference this, but as pointed out on another thread the aggregate score of our last six home games is 4-21. I'm really not sure how much worse it could get if the main boo-ing targets were (rightly) dropped.

[wittonwarrior]

The issue being is that it is a number of players who have badly let us down - I give you:

Jolean Lescott - is standing accused of  bad timing, stating that he is a boyhood Villa fan and seemingly doesn't really care a damn about where we are today.

Micah  Richards - who appears to simply want to have a punch up a game.  No coincidence that no other English team were that interested in signing  him.

Bacuna - must be special  needs  if  he really considers himself capable of playing in the champions league.  Vauxhall Conference would stretch him.

Guzan - not quite sure why everyone is so down on him - No he is not good  enough but neither is Hutton.

I hope the players  brought in for 2016/2017 realise just how lucky they are  being able to wear the Claret and Blue of the Villa.

[Witton Warrior]

I've got at least 4 years of booing left in me.
Payback!!!!

At the price of any remote hope of beating Newcastle?  Retaining any of our better players?  Hope you enjoy your payback, but whilst you are having you fun bear in mind it can't possibly be anything other than counter productive.  The point has already been made loud and clear.

I'll take a leap in the dark and say that was at least partly tongue in cheek.

Sort of trying to put it in the context of how long we have had to suffer the visual abuse of watching these twats compared to how short a time they have been booed!
Even I couldn't actually boo for four years...

[Clampy]

I really don't get what Bacuna has done wrong. He has made one unfortunate slip in a Dutch interview when we do not really know the context in which he made his comments and it has to be remembered Ajax are an absolute massive institution in Holland. The interview may have been drawing an answer from a young kid to a question he needn't have answered. Again, its all about the context. But who is Bacuna got to learn from at Villa? Who are the wiser calm heads? Bacuna's problem is his lack of confidence. Yes, he isn't brilliant by any means and is out of his depth at this level but he is a kid finding his feet who of course believes in his ability.

When we were tearing into Tottenham at White Hart Lane for 10 minutes he was instrumental in getting tha going. He was superb for half an hour at Sunderland until their goal and then fell apart. He's a kid, with limited ability for the Premier League, he said a maybe innocent thing, who does try his hardest every week, who's confidence is shot. We shouldn't be booing him. We should try and give him as much of a boost by supporting him as possible. Him and all the others who aren't the piss takers. Bacuna isn't one of the piss takers.

Enough is enough with the booing. It stops being funny, it stops justified, it stops being Aston Villa. We as fans need to grow a pair and stop sulking now. We know who the guilty ones are and its not at best mediocre young players out of their depth, but those that are cheating us.

I couldn't agree more. So he said he wants to play in the Champions League one day. So what? If we're booing players for that then it's ridiculous.

[Kingthing]

I think that the crowd will be more behind the players for the Newcastle game** because of the general hilarity of possibly relegating them again.

(**at least until someone cocks up again)

I hope so, I have close friends that are Sunderland fans, my pathetic season will have meaning if we pull them down with us.

[Clampy]

The issue being is that it is a number of players who have badly let us down - I give you:

Jolean Lescott - is standing accused of  bad timing, stating that he is a boyhood Villa fan and seemingly doesn't really care a damn about where we are today.

Micah  Richards - who appears to simply want to have a punch up a game.  No coincidence that no other English team were that interested in signing  him.

Bacuna - must be special  needs  if  he really considers himself capable of playing in the champions league.  Vauxhall Conference would stretch him.

Guzan - not quite sure why everyone is so down on him - No he is not good  enough but neither is Hutton.

I hope the players  brought in for 2016/2017 realise just how lucky they are  being able to wear the Claret and Blue of the Villa.

Not sure the 'special needs' comment is necessary really.

[Villa in Denmark]

I really don't get what Bacuna has done wrong. He has made one unfortunate slip in a Dutch interview when we do not really know the context in which he made his comments and it has to be remembered Ajax are an absolute massive institution in Holland. The interview may have been drawing an answer from a young kid to a question he needn't have answered. Again, its all about the context. But who is Bacuna got to learn from at Villa? Who are the wiser calm heads? Bacuna's problem is his lack of confidence. Yes, he isn't brilliant by any means and is out of his depth at this level but he is a kid finding his feet who of course believes in his ability.

When we were tearing into Tottenham at White Hart Lane for 10 minutes he was instrumental in getting tha going. He was superb for half an hour at Sunderland until their goal and then fell apart. He's a kid, with limited ability for the Premier League, he said a maybe innocent thing, who does try his hardest every week, who's confidence is shot. We shouldn't be booing him. We should try and give him as much of a boost by supporting him as possible. Him and all the others who aren't the piss takers. Bacuna isn't one of the piss takers.

Enough is enough with the booing. It stops being funny, it stops justified, it stops being Aston Villa. We as fans need to grow a pair and stop sulking now. We know who the guilty ones are and its not at best mediocre young players out of their depth, but those that are cheating us.

I couldn't agree more. So he said he wants to play in the Champions League one day. So what? If we're booing players for that then it's ridiculous.

RE the Champions League thing, I suspect it's the same as the Okore interview from a couple of months back.  He wasn't pitching himself for a move to Madrid or Turin. He was asked if he thought he could make the change.  It's a question you can't really say no to without making yourself look like someone with no drive or ambition, which I would guess are not usually the characteristics prospective clubs rate highly.

[peter w]

I said on another thread, change the team, change the atmosphere. There is one man keeping the boos going, that's Eric fucking black. Put out a team of graduates, b team players who may be of use next year and the few first teamers still holding some credit like Hutton or Gueye and the atmosphere and crowd would turn in an instant. It wouldn't matter if we lost, we just need a team to get behind. I would love to see villa park packed out for the last game, 43k fans, ticker tape, beach balls, non stop chants and the roar of the Holte End. Show these fuckers on and off the pitch what it means to be villa. Show the rest of the league what they will miss next year.
And show the board, if you do things right, we will still pack out this stadium. Even better that it's a dead rubber game for us...

But how does that work? Change the team and we lose 6-0 you going home happy and relieved that the team has been changed? Its unrealistic and no manager worth their salt would do it. It is arguable, of course, that certain players should be picked but Black is trying to solidify, protect, and do what he thinks is the right thing. After Lerner, Sherwood, Gabby, N'Zogbia, Richards, Garde's strop, Okore refusing to play, Black isn't the one who should be being attacked.

We may not like the players that are being picked but Black has very little choice.

[London Villan]

Is 6-0 worse than 4-0 or 6-0 or 4-2?

[peter w]

it's worse than 4-2, definitely worse than 4-0  unless the 6-0 is against Barcelona and the 4-0 Small heath, and no, its about the same as a 6-0.

[Nunkin1965]

So you're saying that the inclusion of maybe 2 or 3 players would result in a meltdown of the team?
I'm going to have to disagree.
Green, Traore, Gil or Adama for Bacuna?
Richardson would have played on Satutday if fit.
Black is putting Bacuna and Richardson ahead of these four for a start and thats not on for me.