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Author Topic: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board  (Read 167821 times)

Online rob_bridge

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #915 on: April 19, 2016, 10:20:18 AM »
If I had to make a punt it is that the presence of Krulak that has resulted in the disharmony on the football board.

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #916 on: April 19, 2016, 10:25:15 AM »
The key phrase for me in King's statement is "change the culture" - King and Bernstein wanted to do that and Randy stopped them...

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #917 on: April 19, 2016, 10:26:10 AM »
The key phrase for me in King's statement is "change the culture" - King and Bernstein wanted to do that and Randy stopped them...

Which in my view links it to the Gabby thing.

Offline HolmesyVilla

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #918 on: April 19, 2016, 10:32:20 AM »
What is the point of putting those letters of resignation out in the public. Is there anybody left inside Aston Villa with some dignity?

If you want those letters out there then just tell the whole fuckin story you quitters

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #919 on: April 19, 2016, 10:35:03 AM »
The key phrase for me in King's statement is "change the culture" - King and Bernstein wanted to do that and Randy stopped them...

Which in my view links it to the Gabby thing.

I think that's a red herring. Even if player disclipline was one of the things the new board recommended be dealt with, Gabby's latest pig-ignorant shenanigans happened too soon after they reported for it to have been the deciding factor. There would have to be a time frame for "changing the culture" and I can't believe that this one incident (and hardly a surprising incident, at that) would have scuppered everything else in the report.
« Last Edit: April 19, 2016, 10:37:05 AM by German James »

Offline Phil from the upper holte

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #920 on: April 19, 2016, 10:38:57 AM »
It finally happened, the Evening mail running a story with the Villa badge with a crack down the middle

Offline Trinitymiddle

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #921 on: April 19, 2016, 10:43:01 AM »
The key phrase for me in King's statement is "change the culture" - King and Bernstein wanted to do that and Randy stopped them...

Which in my view links it to the Gabby thing.
I think it's more to do with the culture at boardroom level. That is the level that Bernstein and King operate at, and the area that concerns them most. The absentee chairman, yes men and middle managers with personal agendas and vested interests, People promoted above their level of competence on massive salaries, cost cutting resulting in lifelong club employees being made to re-apply for their jobs. That is what I think that alludes to.

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #922 on: April 19, 2016, 10:46:56 AM »
I think it's more to do with the culture at boardroom level. That is the level that Bernstein and King operate at, and the area that concerns them most. The absentee chairman, yes men and middle managers with personal agendas and vested interests, People promoted above their level of competence on massive salaries, cost cutting resulting in lifelong club employees being made to re-apply for their jobs. That is what I think that alludes to.

I agree. And the allusions to people not sticking to the agreed "clear reporting lines" and adhering to the authority "delegated to the new football board" in DB's letter are pretty damning as well.
« Last Edit: April 19, 2016, 10:48:30 AM by German James »

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #923 on: April 19, 2016, 10:48:14 AM »
I'm fairly certain the actions of our longest serving player have nothing to do with their resignations. As soon as I saw Lerner's mate was back alarm bells started ringing, the appointments of King, Bernstein, Little and Bevington were a huge step in the right direction, the return of the General was a massive step back.

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #924 on: April 19, 2016, 10:50:35 AM »
I don't buy the Gabby thing either - Bernstein & King are two substantial heavyweights in football and business respectively, not a couple of petulant chancers who drop tools because of the misdemeanors of one player. For me this stinks of Lerner refusing to let go of the reins and allow the football board do what it was brought in to do, hence why their positions were 'untenable'. And with them went the opportunity to appoint the right manager under a proper structure to take us forwards - after all who would that manager report to now, and how much funding to rebuild the squad would he get. Unless we get a new owner in pdq we're well and truly fucked

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #925 on: April 19, 2016, 10:50:51 AM »
The key phrase for me in King's statement is "change the culture" - King and Bernstein wanted to do that and Randy stopped them...

Which in my view links it to the Gabby thing.

I think that's a red herring. Even if player disclipline was one of the things the new board recommended be dealt with, Gabby's latest pig-ignorant shenanigans happened too soon after they reported for it to have been the deciding factor. There would have to be a time frame for "changing the culture" and I can't believe that this one incident (and hardly a surprising incident, at that) would have scuppered everything else in the report.

Its been reported that he is the main poison in the dressing room. If they wanted him out at any cost then the Dubai, London and fitness things gave them an opportunity, if Lerner wouldn't let them take it then I'd see that as a strong point of principle to go over.

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #926 on: April 19, 2016, 10:53:06 AM »
It's down to money surely?  They've identified the way forward, manager and funding etc.  Lerner has said no.  It's the obvious answer.

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #927 on: April 19, 2016, 10:55:17 AM »
The key phrase for me in King's statement is "change the culture" - King and Bernstein wanted to do that and Randy stopped them...

Which in my view links it to the Gabby thing.

I think that's a red herring. Even if player disclipline was one of the things the new board recommended be dealt with, Gabby's latest pig-ignorant shenanigans happened too soon after they reported for it to have been the deciding factor. There would have to be a time frame for "changing the culture" and I can't believe that this one incident (and hardly a surprising incident, at that) would have scuppered everything else in the report.

Its been reported that he is the main poison in the dressing room. If they wanted him out at any cost then the Dubai, London and fitness things gave them an opportunity, if Lerner wouldn't let them take it then I'd see that as a strong point of principle to go over.

I do see what you mean, but I can't really think of a reason for Lerner to refuse. I mean, surely even cosetted, bloated, wanker footballers have contractual clauses about bringing their employers into disrepute... don't they?! DON'T THEY?!!!

Offline liam

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #928 on: April 19, 2016, 10:55:30 AM »
I hope Lord King comes and sits in the Holte Saturday, a show of solidarity.

I have always had a belief that for Lerners failings he had the best interest of the club at heart, and when Garde was sacked and the new football board appointed, I hoped the anti Lerner songs/banners would disappear, the changes had been made and we needed to support what was happening. But after yesterdays news I have no time left for the man....I just hope, if and when he does sell, we don't end up in the hands of another mad man.

Offline Trinitymiddle

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Re: Bernstein and King Resign from the Board
« Reply #929 on: April 19, 2016, 10:58:09 AM »
The key phrase for me in King's statement is "change the culture" - King and Bernstein wanted to do that and Randy stopped them...

Which in my view links it to the Gabby thing.

I think that's a red herring. Even if player disclipline was one of the things the new board recommended be dealt with, Gabby's latest pig-ignorant shenanigans happened too soon after they reported for it to have been the deciding factor. There would have to be a time frame for "changing the culture" and I can't believe that this one incident (and hardly a surprising incident, at that) would have scuppered everything else in the report.

Its been reported that he is the main poison in the dressing room. If they wanted him out at any cost then the Dubai, London and fitness things gave them an opportunity, if Lerner wouldn't let them take it then I'd see that as a strong point of principle to go over.
There are far more important battles to be picked with Lerner than sacking Gabby.

Like most Villa fans, I doubt Bernstein and King are that bothered about the Gabby thing. The structure of the club and the decision making process is far more important to them, and it is clearly the fact that this has changed since they joined is what has caused their resignations. As King alluded to in his resignation letter, saying that a change of ownership is necessary as soon as possible.

 


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