Bernstein and King Resign from the Board

[chrisw1]

A new manager was ready to be appointed reporting directly to Bernstein, the appointment was blocked, and Bernstein walked.
So how do we appoint a manager now?
Unless we are sold very quickly, we are f***ed.

Why would a new manager report directly to Bernstein? Hollis is the chairman.

Because Bernstein was head of the 'football Board' and Hollis has admitted he knows nothing about football.

[Trinitymiddle]

A new manager was ready to be appointed reporting directly to Bernstein, the appointment was blocked, and Bernstein walked.
So how do we appoint a manager now?
Unless we are sold very quickly, we are f***ed.

Why would a new manager report directly to Bernstein? Hollis is the chairman.

Because as Bernstein outlined, the manager reports to the Football Board, and the Football Board reports to the Chairman. Hollis has even stated that he doesn't know much about football, and this is why he implemented the Football Board.
The art of management is hiring the right people in the right positions and letting them do their jobs, as Hollis was doing, and as Randy has completely and utterly failed to realise in 10 years.

[GordonCowansisthegreatest]

Hopefully the silence is to give Lerner time to back down and see some sense before they spill the beans.

[Ads]

Has there been a period in our history where we've been in such chaotic turmoil? The owner is a dimwitted fool, whose lack of ambition is only equaled by his lack of common sense. He now appears to have no funds available because his mother has reattached the apron strings.

We have complete board room disharmony, we have no manager, we have a playing squad riddled with players whose attitude is beyond abysmal and chock full of such rank garbage that they've produced our worst performance since we invented the league in 1888.

We're at the heart of the maelstrom at present, so we cannot see beyond the horizon, as better days may be yet to come, but Jesus, I've never felt so bemused and down about the prospects of what is to come next in all my days.

[The Laughing Policeman]

In answer to Ads question about the turmoil at the club. Until yesterday tea time I was comforting myself with the fact that the club is in a better position than it was in 1967. After the resignations yesterday I'm pretty certain that this is worse than 1967.

[gpbarr]

A new manager was ready to be appointed reporting directly to Bernstein, the appointment was blocked, and Bernstein walked.
So how do we appoint a manager now?
Unless we are sold very quickly, we are f***ed.

 

Sounds about right to me.

Despite Lerner appointing Hollis and releasing a statement at the time declaring he was taking a back seat, the fact that he still signs the cheques, means ultimately Lerner is still in charge.

I'd personally be surprised if Hollis stays now, as King and Bernstein were his appointments, and it leaves his company structure in tatters. Surely no credible replacements will touch this basket case with a barge pole now.

Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse....

What's really scary is that I think it's going to get even worse in the next few months. I think Hollis will go, Sir BL will walk away, our better players will be picked off (Amavi, Ayew, Gueye) with Lerner sanctioning their disposal as a way to trim costs, a complete yes-man & on the cheap manager will be appointed with a remit to keep us in the Championship, and revenues will plummet forcing Lerner (or his Mum!) to start asset stripping.

As others have said, we are really in danger of a monumental collapse through the tiers of British football unless and until we are sold. The manager conversation is absolutely pointless until the mess above them is resolved. I'm starting to genuinely understand why despite trying several different managers under Lerners stewardship, all have failed.

The one constant - Mr Randy Lerner.

It's not an overstatement to say that we are on the precipice here.

[The Edge]

I really wish people would stop saying "just when I thought things couldn't get any worse" because invariably it does. It's like a self fulfilling prophecy.

[Chico Hamilton III]

A new manager was ready to be appointed reporting directly to Bernstein, the appointment was blocked, and Bernstein walked.
So how do we appoint a manager now?
Unless we are sold very quickly, we are f***ed.

Why would a new manager report directly to Bernstein? Hollis is the chairman.

Because as Bernstein outlined, the manager reports to the Football Board, and the Football Board reports to the Chairman. Hollis has even stated that he doesn't know much about football, and this is why he implemented the Football Board.
The art of management is hiring the right people in the right positions and letting them do their jobs, as Hollis was doing, and as Randy has completely and utterly failed to realise in 10 years.

There was a poster on here a couple of weeks ago ( forget his name) who was ridiculed for suggesting that this model would never work as long as Lerner still had influence.

[olaftab]

It finally happened, the Evening mail running a story with the Villa badge with a crack down the middle

Ahha.. Is it the old badge or the new revamped ultra smart badge?

[Trinitymiddle]

I really wish people would stop saying "just when I thought things couldn't get any worse" because invariably it does. It's like a self fulfilling prophecy.

Not really. Its perfectly appropriate to say that today.

I think I, like a lot of people, were semi-optimistic for the future, Lerner had stated that he would take a back seat and allow Hollis to run the club. He had identified the problems, a new company structure was put in place and there was the  appointment of some really credible people to the Board and Advisory Roles. We were being linked with some decent managers, and it felt like we had turned a corner, or at least bottomed out.

Then yesterday this...Now it feels like we are nowhere near bottoming out unless the club is very close to being sold, which I very much doubt because King and Bernstein wouldn't have said what they did in their resignation letters yesterday.

[Nelson Lodge]

I have just listened to last night's R5Live show (on iplayer) with Kelly Cates talking to Pat Murphy.

About 15 minutes in. After PM talks of the resignations and the possible £75 million sale price, Dennis Mortimer is interviewed - nothing special. But then KC goes back to Murphy. They discuss possible managers and whether anyone would take the job now after the resignations even if they were interested before. Murphy says Moyes not impressed with Reilly. Then finishes by referring back to last week's staff redundancies due to the players on the pitch and the

"The Palsied Executive Decison Making of Randy Lerner"

 and as he says they should (all) be ashamed of themselves.

I like that description of Lerner's abilities and sums up his 10 years ownership (so far) in a nutshell.
The Finger of Blame is at last pointing at the right person.

[olaftab]

A new manager was ready to be appointed reporting directly to Bernstein, the appointment was blocked, and Bernstein walked.
So how do we appoint a manager now?
Unless we are sold very quickly, we are f***ed.

Why would a new manager report directly to Bernstein? Hollis is the chairman.

Not a problem anymore. He (or She) can report to Hollis!

[Mister E]

If Lerner has not agreed to fund the change in direction, be it for a new manager and new structure [head of football or whoever], sacking Reily etc, then the only glimmer of hope would be a change of ownership.

Lerner is a fool easily parted with his money; he paid Small Heath £5 million for McLiesh and has gone through managers like underwear the past 12 months, so it would seem odd that he decides to turn the tap off completely having presumably acquiesced to the moves forward suggested by Hollis. Why stop now? For what ends?

Its hard to fathom his motives and it could well be that reference to new ownership is simply misdirection.

But if we're up for sale at a reduced price, then he might have come to his senses. Getting him out of the football club by fair means or foul has to be the number one priority, as he is a disease that is rotting us from the inside out.

I want the new manager to have an ambitious owner, who is back by the board to do what is necessary. McLiesh, Lambert, Sherwood, Garde etc, as poor as they may be, were all made poorer by having one and sometimes both hands tied behind their back. We need unity.

 

My reading of the situatiion is that Lerner did not buy into the strategy necessary to bring us redemption, as Bernstein and King saw it.

Pat Murphy mentioned a cut price of £75m yesterday evening.

I'm pretty sure £5m was not spent getting TSM out of the Sty; more like £1.5m IIRC.

[Monty]

If Lerner has not agreed to fund the change in direction, be it for a new manager and new structure [head of football or whoever], sacking Reily etc, then the only glimmer of hope would be a change of ownership.

Lerner is a fool easily parted with his money; he paid Small Heath £5 million for McLiesh and has gone through managers like underwear the past 12 months, so it would seem odd that he decides to turn the tap off completely having presumably acquiesced to the moves forward suggested by Hollis. Why stop now? For what ends?

Its hard to fathom his motives and it could well be that reference to new ownership is simply misdirection.

But if we're up for sale at a reduced price, then he might have come to his senses. Getting him out of the football club by fair means or foul has to be the number one priority, as he is a disease that is rotting us from the inside out.

I want the new manager to have an ambitious owner, who is back by the board to do what is necessary. McLiesh, Lambert, Sherwood, Garde etc, as poor as they may be, were all made poorer by having one and sometimes both hands tied behind their back. We need unity.

 

My reading of the situatiion is that Lerner did not buy into the strategy necessary to bring us redemption, as Bernstein and King saw it.

Pat Murphy mentioned a cut price of £75m yesterday evening.

I'm pretty sure £5m was not spent getting TSM out of the Sty; more like £1.5m IIRC.

More money than they spent on new players in January at any rate.

[adrenachrome]

It finally happened, the Evening mail running a story with the Villa badge with a crack down the middle

Ahha.. Is it the old badge or the new revamped ultra smart badge?

The former.