Why Are WE Hated ?

[passport1]

I think we are more pitied than hated.

[Walmley_Villa]

Hated by Baggies and noses plus Geordies. Would say most others pity or are indifferent.

[SoccerHQ]

Pretty much.

Looking at a few club forums with no real rivarly with us (Stoke, West Brom and Spurs) and most are respectful of our big club status and can see the damage Lerner has done over last 5 years.

This thread is on a prominent West Ham forum (Our old mate Sendo pops up). Most are respectful of  our status.

http://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=163481&sid=65ca9d26356924b79e6c056e842d5a9e


It's always amusing when a big club internally explodes and gets relegated. I loved it when Leeds and Newcastle went down so have no issue with any neutral finding our demise amusing.

[avfc_1874]

It's only other midlands teams that really hate us. Fairly certain the original poster is on a wind up & probably bragging to his cyber buddies somewhere about his life acheivement.

Let them have their moment because most of them have waited a lifetime for this.

[itbrvilla]

Some supporters see us like we see Newcastle.

[in exile]

Lets be perfectly honest, do you (anyone) care if we are hated?
I know I don't

[ChicagoLion]

We are seen by some as a small club but with fans who believe we are a big club.
Let's face it, the club has been acting small time for several years now, thanks to Lerners idiotic stewardship.
I wonder if we will ever get back to being a big club again.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

I'm hoping Newcastle hate us even more next month.

[itbrvilla]

We are seen by some as a small club but with fans who believe we are a big club.
Let's face it, the club has been acting small time for several years now, thanks to Lerners idiotic stewardship.
I wonder if we will ever get back to being a big club again.

Were not a big club. Done fuck all of note in over 2 decades.

[martin o`who??]

Judging by the number of supporters of other clubs wishing us well on the official club Facebook page I don't think that's necessarily the case at all.

[Ads]

Only Noses and Bitters would suggests we are anything but a big club and even they are lying to themselves.

[martin o`who??]

I'm hoping Newcastle hate us even more next month.

i don't wish that on them at all, this friction has developed a momentum of its own, all the Newcastle fans I've actually spoken to have been sound, I am genuinely sorry it's come to this between two great clubs.

[wittonwarrior]

think its a bit  of a mishmash

Sunderland and Villa used to have quite a  good relationship between us.

Newcastle don't seem to get on with anyone.

Would say  we were as big a club as Tottenham

Everton and Villa see each other as  rivals - league cup 77/league cup 84 and a bit of tit for tat off the field over the years

The likes of the Sty and Albion would secretly love to  support a club like the Villa if truth be known.

[robbo1874]

It varies from club to club.

All it took for Newcastle was a daft banner, as mentioned earlier. I thought it was a bit shit at the time, but it really seems to have gotten to them, the oddballs.

Everton do seem to genuinely despise us. I think a big part of that was the green eyed monster, when we had money early in the RL era, and looked like we would take their god-given right to be pushing for the CL.  I don't recall them being as bitter before, but older fans do mention the League Cup in the 1970s as the jumping off point.

Sunderland -who on the whole- tend to be some of the better fans in the league, have had a bee in their bonnet ever since Darren Bent ditched them in 2011. They genuinely couldn't understand why a bigger club that had been pushing towards the upper end of the table for a number of years previously might have been a more attractive option than a yo yo club marooned up in a city that makes Chernobyl look plush.

Norwich= Lambert.

Leicester= Brian Little

The rest would probably be largely indifferent to us, save for the fact that for the past five years we have acted like Southampton and Cov in the 80s and 90s -doing just enough to stay up and boring everyone into submission in the process.  Liverpool and Citeh fans do seem to have a bit of time for us, weirdly. In Citeh's case, it might be in a 'There but for the grace of God go I' way.

Our local neighbours don't count. And most of them can't count. Trophies or anything else.  Wolves and Forest seem to be a bit less rabid, because they actually seem to have pride in their own clubs' achievements.

I've seen it mentioned in a few places that we are delusional, and that we don't count as a big club because of our success pre WW2.

It's an odd sort of logic, but even if we follow that train of thought, we have still won, the FA Cup, the league, the European Cup, European Super Cup and League Cup five times since then. How many 'nothing' clubs have won nine major trophies from that period to this? Since football was invented in 1992, we've finished 2nd and 4th, and had a number of consistent top six finishes, plus won two league cups. That's a record not dissimilar to those fashionable North London titans Tottingham.

I'm always delighted to know that Keown OG, Ian Wright and the rest still hold us in such high regard, but our record is still infinitely better than most of the dross in the top flight - even if you amputate the Victorian era from our history (and why would you honestly want to do that).  So fuck'em.  Fuck' em all.

great post KG,- cheered me up mate. Like others have said, I receive mainly sympathy, but I'd rather it was piss taking. Especially with people you know. The only person I know who has took the piss is a Cov fan who does the coffee van outside the swimming pool where I take my daughter to swimming lessons. He's actually alright, typical cov though, the bitterness laying not far from the surface. He was going on about Leicester yesterday, doesn't want them to win the league - the only person, I've heard say that- in between sly digs at me wearing my Villa shirt. I asked him if he wore his cov shirt when we sent them down at Villa Park. Arr, no but it weren't you sent us dahn, it were Derby.

[London Villan]

Pity is much worse than piss-taking.