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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: alftitimus on April 13, 2016, 02:04:26 AM

Title: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: alftitimus on April 13, 2016, 02:04:26 AM
I've spent the past 2/3 days, using my breaks, to scour other club forums.
About any reference to us, because a couple of work colleagues seem to think we are the
laughing stock of football. They ain't noses nor dogheads no idea who they support.
In fact I don't think they've ever been to any match in 10 years -
-perhaps they don't like me ?  :D

Anyway...... we are referenced on every bloody forum I've found so far.
Man U to Sheffield  U even.
Hartlepool and even Stevenage and Nuneaton.

And all of the cr@p I've seen is pick-ups from our sites. Records under Lambert, records about to be broken etc. All bad, and all with "jolly jape" comments by the clever supporters of BIG  clubs like the Dogheads.

I accept that we are a figure of fun to others, and one blouse forum is running a stupid thread about our demise that almost equals villa threads about their demise.
Perhaps it's time to make friends and break bread as they say ?  :D

It is about the "Hate" i'm concerned about.
Not just the petty jibes from our nearest rivals, but the viscious repitition of stats other fans have picked up-  from our own forums. JEEZ

I never realised we were hated

But, like Man Utd years ago we seem to have more people hate us than pity us.

At best I would have thought that we would always be a mid-table side that now and again picked up a fan or two who stuck with  us, and grew slowly.Globally.

I hate to say this, but the most common jibe / insult /comment I've read so far
--- is about us. The "fans"

We are supposed to be living in 'Victorian times' or living in the past.
We expect to be top-table because of our history

We have an owner who has sunk -  and may never recover - over £300 million in our club, and we HATE HIM.

So we, the fans who protest against him are the actual figures of fun.
The reason why we seem to be hated by other fans.

I would suggest,if you are as suicidal as I was, to use a search engine and trawl other forums.
Forget our locals - just go further afield, and see that we are hated.

WHY For Goodnss Sake ?

Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: mr underhill on April 13, 2016, 07:03:52 AM
it's just 'bants' Alf. Chill.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Smirker on April 13, 2016, 07:15:15 AM
I don't think it is bants. I believe people when they say they dislike us, but unless you are another West Midlands club I can't see why we would be unlikeable to anyone else other than maybe Newcastle. I get that we are shit and have been for years and the arguments based around the football but not us as a club or the fans.

Anyway fuck them, we aren't here to be liked.

As for Man. United fans they are dicks who even hate each other, who cares what they think?
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: TopDeck113 on April 13, 2016, 07:31:36 AM
How can you hate a club that routinely gives you six points season-after-season; will ensure that your poor run of form is brought to an end; that will allow your misfiring striker to get back on the goal-scoring track; will routinely sell out their away allocation bringing a load of dosh into your club without troubling you with anything other than an easy home win; and, even if you're in a lower division, present a decent opportunity for a cup "shock"?


Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: martin o`who?? on April 13, 2016, 07:38:01 AM
A lot of the noise being generated by our demise is effectively a back-handed compliment because its a genuine story that a club like us is imploding in full view of everyone. When a `Boro or Norwich get relegated its not big news but a club of our size and stature is another matter. The Germans have a word for it - schadenfreude - which apparently translates as revelling in someone else's discomfort, we just have to live with it - cos it aint gonna change anytime soon.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Chris Harte on April 13, 2016, 07:44:41 AM
Its more complicated that have an owner who has sunk £300M in to the club. I bet none of the people on these other fora are asking how much of that he has recouped, despite there having been some big sales out of VP over the last ten years.

As for the Newcastle thing, that presumed hatred is based on a day in May 2009 where the events of that day have been getting worse ever since. If Newcastle are really so twisted over a banner or two (I didn't understand why anyone in our support would go to those lengths to take the piss either) and a few people laughing at them then they need help. No doubt our own support will get it (I'd assume not the banners) at Old Trafford on Saturday.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Witton Warrior on April 13, 2016, 07:53:25 AM
It's because we matter to football and they don't...
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Dave on April 13, 2016, 08:12:05 AM
We aren't hated. People just find our demise really funny, just like we would if somebody like Spurs or Man City were enjoying our current standing.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Mister E on April 13, 2016, 08:22:52 AM
Being hated is progress. In more recent seasons we've been completely ignored / disregarded by most.
The emotion from others comes in the realisation that if it could happen to a 'big' club, it could to any club. There'll be plenty more 'expert analyses' and fan-pis stakes before the end of this year; when we finally go down and as our new season commences.
I relish the pisstaking because it gives us a chance to remind people what our achievements have been, the depth of our support and the inevitability of outcry return to the top flight.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Olof's Beard on April 13, 2016, 08:39:16 AM
Most people I know - even those who love to take the piss - have showed some level of sympathy for our current plight. Football is tribal, it's normal for fans to delight in the demise of other clubs to an extent but everything is accentuated by the internet. I think there are a lot of fans in 'real life' who are pretty shocked about what has happened to us this season and many of them sympathise. We have even seen evidence of that during games against the likes of Everton.

The general opinion I get from other fans is that Villa are a big club and belong in the top division.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on April 13, 2016, 08:45:26 AM
Most people I know - even those who love to take the piss - have showed some level of sympathy for our current plight. Football is tribal, it's normal for fans to delight in the demise of other clubs to an extent but everything is accentuated by the internet. I think there are a lot of fans in 'real life' who are pretty shocked about what has happened to us this season and many of them sympathise. We have even seen evidence of that during games against the likes of Everton.

The general opinion I get from other fans is that Villa are a big club and belong in the top division.

My experience as well. Even Spurs fans I work with have told me that they are disappointed we won't be in the league next season. In fact, other than our local rivals, I've been surprised at the level of sympathy/empathy we're receiving. You want to try getting our more on your lunch breaks, Alf, and start meeting real people.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Risso on April 13, 2016, 08:51:54 AM
We aren't hated. People just find our demise really funny, just like we would if somebody like Spurs or Man City were enjoying our current standing.

Exactly.

Nobody I know hates us, most just take the piss a bit, but most also realise that a bad owner could happen to anybody.  The general feeling is that Villa, Newcastle and Sunderland deserve to go down because we've all three stunk out the division in recent years, and it's hard to argue with that.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Jimbo on April 13, 2016, 08:55:59 AM
Everyone wants to see a 'big' club fall, especially one with a misplaced sense of self-importance. Just before we sent Newcastle down, it seemed the whole world of football was urging us on. After the game I even got a text of congratulation from a knuckledragger. I think it was that atmosphere that led to the banners.

We've gone beyond the threshold of embarrassment now, so some people are sympathetic. But in the tribal world of football, many will be very happy to see us go. Not least our local newspaper.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: JD on April 13, 2016, 08:56:52 AM
Everyone I know did take the piss, now they just feel sorry for us (and are worried if it has happened to us, it could happen to them).
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: HolmesyVilla on April 13, 2016, 08:57:00 AM
Still one of my favourite chants is
We are Villa
Aston Villa
No-one likes us
We don't care
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: pauliewalnuts on April 13, 2016, 09:46:44 AM
The time to worry would have been had we got relegated and nobody batted an eyelid.

That has totally not been the case - there has been huge amounts of press coverage of our demise, and other fans seem to be paying close attention, too.

That's the difference between us and pisspot clubs like Albion, West Ham, Sunderland - they go down and hardly anyone comments - because 1. They're just not that important as clubs and 2. That's what they do, they go up and down.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Ads on April 13, 2016, 10:04:09 AM
I wish we were hated, it would mean we'd be doing something right.

I hope to be hated next season, as it will mean we're pissing all over the league and tin pot clubs will be glad not to have 4000 Brummies giving it large at their shoe box ground the following campaign.

We're pitied in the main and as Paulie says, we're on the sports news a lot. You cannot go a few days without hearing us on 5Live or TalkSport. Only the shadow dwelling no marks who orbit us seem to be laughing. Fuck them though.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: mr underhill on April 13, 2016, 11:23:44 AM
There is only one thing in life worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: The Edge on April 13, 2016, 11:51:45 AM
There is only one thing in life worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about.
I think stubbing my toe in bare feet is worse.
 I really don't give a flying fuck who hates us, pity's or is just plain envious ( small heath & the Ollbeyun) All I care about is AVFC.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Chris Jameson on April 13, 2016, 12:06:43 PM
Still one of my favourite chants is
We are Villa
Aston Villa
No-one likes us
We don't care

It works for Millwall but not Villa as I don't think people care about us and if they do a lot of them pity us or feel sorry for us but that doesn't scan.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Villan For Life on April 13, 2016, 12:26:26 PM
It's the Villa this season, next year it will be some other club.

I don't mind the "bantz", it's the pity I can't stand!
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Dave on April 13, 2016, 12:26:49 PM
There is only one thing in life worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about.

I reckon the likes of John Whittingdale would disagree.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on April 13, 2016, 01:17:42 PM
I don't think we are hated, other than by local rival fans.

I have had nothing but sympathy and a bit of mickey taking from other fans. Admitedly I live up North, and the other fans are all Everton, PNE, Man Utd and Man city, Liverpool and Burnley. For the most part they seem to think it's a shame to see this happen to a club like Villa.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 13, 2016, 01:19:08 PM
I think we are being talked about a lot because of the manner of our demise. It's quite spectacularly bad. It's also been an odd season because Leicester have done so well, and the other usual topics of conversation have been hugely mediocre. However, I expect that once we actually do go down, we'll disappear into the background because the media will get back to discussing the rise again of Chelsea (with Conte), Man City (with Pep), Man U (with whoever replaces LVG), Arsenal and their inability to win the league in a season Leicester win it, and off course the magnificent second place Spurs. As for people hating us. I don't think many do. We are just an easy target right now, and most people pity us which is a lot worse than being hated.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: peter w on April 13, 2016, 01:26:26 PM
The time to worry would have been had we got relegated and nobody batted an eyelid.

That has totally not been the case - there has been huge amounts of press coverage of our demise, and other fans seem to be paying close attention, too.

That's the difference between us and pisspot clubs like Albion, West Ham, Sunderland - they go down and hardly anyone comments - because 1. They're just not that important as clubs and 2. That's what they do, they go up and down.

I remember in 86 when Everton were singing to man u "Down with the Villa you're going down with the Villa" and I took it then as a compliment. Same as now, I can't remember the game but someone was singing it to newcastle or Sunderland. Not that they were going down with their neighbours but with us. other fans would want us to go down every bit as much as many here and elsewhere wanted to see Everton go in the dodgy Segers years simply because its funny to see a big side go.

Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Godfrey Brian on April 13, 2016, 01:52:06 PM
We're this year's novelty act that's all. Whilst we've seen it coming for a few years, nationally we are so laughably poor in lots of departments this season that it is a story. I guess we do pee a lot of others off because we are conscious of our history but every supporter should reference their own club's past otherwise you are just left with now and a world where money equals glory (ask Blackburn).

As for our local rivals ,all of them, they are enjoying it as we would with them. Give them their moment -it doesn't really matter because things will turn again  and frankly we should only be bothered about the Villa.

Alternatively it could be our stovepipe hats and sidewhiskers that upsets everyone!
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: adrenachrome on April 13, 2016, 01:54:46 PM
I hate us. My dog hates us.

Why wouldn't they?
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: joe_c on April 13, 2016, 01:56:58 PM
Is that the royal WE? Where does one begin...
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Lucky Eddie on April 13, 2016, 02:11:39 PM
They hate us more than they love their own club - and that's the difference between us.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Nelly on April 13, 2016, 02:22:27 PM
If we're being criticised for being boring, I would humbly ask why fans of other clubs are watching us? Villa don't owe fans of other clubs anything, let alone entertainment. Especially on TV. Sod right off. I think the club should be set up to cater for it's own fans first. If we happen to be entertaining to others - great, but no one outside of Villa has a right to anything in my opinion. Same for any club, by the way.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on April 13, 2016, 02:26:35 PM
Chim, chimney
Chim, chimney
Chim, chim, cher-oo

We are the bastards in Claret and Blue.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: KevinGage on April 13, 2016, 02:33:02 PM
It varies from club to club.

All it took for Newcastle was a daft banner, as mentioned earlier. I thought it was a bit shit at the time, but it really seems to have gotten to them, the oddballs.

Everton do seem to genuinely despise us. I think a big part of that was the green eyed monster, when we had money early in the RL era, and looked like we would take their god-given right to be pushing for the CL.  I don't recall them being as bitter before, but older fans do mention the League Cup in the 1970s as the jumping off point.

Sunderland -who on the whole- tend to be some of the better fans in the league, have had a bee in their bonnet ever since Darren Bent ditched them in 2011. They genuinely couldn't understand why a bigger club that had been pushing towards the upper end of the table for a number of years previously might have been a more attractive option than a yo yo club marooned up in a city that makes Chernobyl look plush.

Norwich= Lambert.

Leicester= Brian Little

The rest would probably be largely indifferent to us, save for the fact that for the past five years we have acted like Southampton and Cov in the 80s and 90s -doing just enough to stay up and boring everyone into submission in the process.  Liverpool and Citeh fans do seem to have a bit of time for us, weirdly. In Citeh's case, it might be in a 'There but for the grace of God go I' way.

Our local neighbours don't count. And most of them can't count. Trophies or anything else.  Wolves and Forest seem to be a bit less rabid, because they actually seem to have pride in their own clubs' achievements.

I've seen it mentioned in a few places that we are delusional, and that we don't count as a big club because of our success pre WW2.

It's an odd sort of logic, but even if we follow that train of thought, we have still won, the FA Cup, the league, the European Cup, European Super Cup and League Cup five times since then. How many 'nothing' clubs have won nine major trophies from that period to this? Since football was invented in 1992, we've finished 2nd and 4th, and had a number of consistent top six finishes, plus won two league cups. That's a record not dissimilar to those fashionable North London titans Tottingham.

I'm always delighted to know that Keown OG, Ian Wright and the rest still hold us in such high regard, but our record is still infinitely better than most of the dross in the top flight - even if you amputate the Victorian era from our history (and why would you honestly want to do that).  So fuck'em.  Fuck' em all.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: SamTheMouse on April 13, 2016, 03:16:14 PM
Quote
When beggars die, there are no comets seen...
The heavens themselves blaze forth the death of princes.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on April 13, 2016, 03:44:13 PM
They hate us because they want to be us
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: West Derby Villan on April 13, 2016, 04:46:55 PM
As said before if the shoe was on the other foot and a big team, that had always played in the premier  league, were relegated, we would love it. We are Aston Villa and us getting relegated is news.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Percy McCarthy on April 13, 2016, 05:15:46 PM
I've spent the past 2/3 days, using my breaks, to scour other club forums.
About any reference to us, because a couple of work colleagues seem to think we are the
laughing stock of football. They ain't noses nor dogheads no idea who they support.
In fact I don't think they've ever been to any match in 10 years -
-perhaps they don't like me ?  :D

Anyway...... we are referenced on every bloody forum I've found so far.
Man U to Sheffield  U even.
Hartlepool and even Stevenage and Nuneaton.

And all of the cr@p I've seen is pick-ups from our sites. Records under Lambert, records about to be broken etc. All bad, and all with "jolly jape" comments by the clever supporters of BIG  clubs like the Dogheads.

I accept that we are a figure of fun to others, and one blouse forum is running a stupid thread about our demise that almost equals villa threads about their demise.
Perhaps it's time to make friends and break bread as they say ?  :D

It is about the "Hate" i'm concerned about.
Not just the petty jibes from our nearest rivals, but the viscious repitition of stats other fans have picked up-  from our own forums. JEEZ

I never realised we were hated

But, like Man Utd years ago we seem to have more people hate us than pity us.

At best I would have thought that we would always be a mid-table side that now and again picked up a fan or two who stuck with  us, and grew slowly.Globally.

I hate to say this, but the most common jibe / insult /comment I've read so far
--- is about us. The "fans"

We are supposed to be living in 'Victorian times' or living in the past.
We expect to be top-table because of our history

We have an owner who has sunk -  and may never recover - over £300 million in our club, and we HATE HIM.

So we, the fans who protest against him are the actual figures of fun.
The reason why we seem to be hated by other fans.

I would suggest,if you are as suicidal as I was, to use a search engine and trawl other forums.
Forget our locals - just go further afield, and see that we are hated.

WHY For Goodnss Sake ?

Dunno. Don't care. You wanna get out more.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: john e on April 13, 2016, 05:20:24 PM
I don't believe we are hated

sad really I wish we were good enough to be hated by everyone,
but apart from local rivalries I don't think most other clubs fans give a shit about us
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: The Edge on April 13, 2016, 05:34:21 PM
They hate us more than they love their own club - and that's the difference between us.
I asked my blue nose pal  "what makes you happier. A blues win or a villa loss?" He replied "I don't care what happens to blues so long as villa lose"
In a nutshell really. Sad bastards.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: eamonn on April 13, 2016, 05:42:44 PM
It varies from club to club.

All it took for Newcastle was a daft banner, as mentioned earlier. I thought it was a bit shit at the time, but it really seems to have gotten to them, the oddballs.

Everton do seem to genuinely despise us. I think a big part of that was the green eyed monster, when we had money early in the RL era, and looked like we would take their god-given right to be pushing for the CL.  I don't recall them being as bitter before, but older fans do mention the League Cup in the 1970s as the jumping off point.

Sunderland -who on the whole- tend to be some of the better fans in the league, have had a bee in their bonnet ever since Darren Bent ditched them in 2011. They genuinely couldn't understand why a bigger club that had been pushing towards the upper end of the table for a number of years previously might have been a more attractive option than a yo yo club marooned up in a city that makes Chernobyl look plush.

Norwich= Lambert.

Leicester= Brian Little

The rest would probably be largely indifferent to us, save for the fact that for the past five years we have acted like Southampton and Cov in the 80s and 90s -doing just enough to stay up and boring everyone into submission in the process.  Liverpool and Citeh fans do seem to have a bit of time for us, weirdly. In Citeh's case, it might be in a 'There but for the grace of God go I' way.

Our local neighbours don't count. And most of them can't count. Trophies or anything else.  Wolves and Forest seem to be a bit less rabid, because they actually seem to have pride in their own clubs' achievements.

I've seen it mentioned in a few places that we are delusional, and that we don't count as a big club because of our success pre WW2.

It's an odd sort of logic, but even if we follow that train of thought, we have still won, the FA Cup, the league, the European Cup, European Super Cup and League Cup five times since then. How many 'nothing' clubs have won nine major trophies from that period to this? Since football was invented in 1992, we've finished 2nd and 4th, and had a number of consistent top six finishes, plus won two league cups. That's a record not dissimilar to those fashionable North London titans Tottingham.

I'm always delighted to know that Keown OG, Ian Wright and the rest still hold us in such high regard, but our record is still infinitely better than most of the dross in the top flight - even if you amputate the Victorian era from our history (and why would you honestly want to do that).  So fuck'em.  Fuck' em all.


*Applause*

Abso-feckin'-lutely.

And the largest audible chant I heard in the Leicester v Newcastle game recently was those friendly foxes chanting ''Down with the Villa! You're going down with the Villa'' to the Barcodes.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: The Edge on April 13, 2016, 06:08:52 PM
It varies from club to club.

All it took for Newcastle was a daft banner, as mentioned earlier. I thought it was a bit shit at the time, but it really seems to have gotten to them, the oddballs.

Everton do seem to genuinely despise us. I think a big part of that was the green eyed monster, when we had money early in the RL era, and looked like we would take their god-given right to be pushing for the CL.  I don't recall them being as bitter before, but older fans do mention the League Cup in the 1970s as the jumping off point.

Sunderland -who on the whole- tend to be some of the better fans in the league, have had a bee in their bonnet ever since Darren Bent ditched them in 2011. They genuinely couldn't understand why a bigger club that had been pushing towards the upper end of the table for a number of years previously might have been a more attractive option than a yo yo club marooned up in a city that makes Chernobyl look plush.

Norwich= Lambert.

Leicester= Brian Little

The rest would probably be largely indifferent to us, save for the fact that for the past five years we have acted like Southampton and Cov in the 80s and 90s -doing just enough to stay up and boring everyone into submission in the process.  Liverpool and Citeh fans do seem to have a bit of time for us, weirdly. In Citeh's case, it might be in a 'There but for the grace of God go I' way.

Our local neighbours don't count. And most of them can't count. Trophies or anything else.  Wolves and Forest seem to be a bit less rabid, because they actually seem to have pride in their own clubs' achievements.

I've seen it mentioned in a few places that we are delusional, and that we don't count as a big club because of our success pre WW2.

It's an odd sort of logic, but even if we follow that train of thought, we have still won, the FA Cup, the league, the European Cup, European Super Cup and League Cup five times since then. How many 'nothing' clubs have won nine major trophies from that period to this? Since football was invented in 1992, we've finished 2nd and 4th, and had a number of consistent top six finishes, plus won two league cups. That's a record not dissimilar to those fashionable North London titans Tottingham.

I'm always delighted to know that Keown OG, Ian Wright and the rest still hold us in such high regard, but our record is still infinitely better than most of the dross in the top flight - even if you amputate the Victorian era from our history (and why would you honestly want to do that).  So fuck'em.  Fuck' em all.
Well said mateThat's spot on.
I was working with a spurs fan regularly a few years back and had some right ding dongs with him. He was utterly convinced that spurs were huge compared to little old villa from up north. Even though I told him that we were England's 4th most successful club ever, bigger ground, higher attendances throughout history,provided more England players than any other club, won the European Cup, founder membets, etc etc. There is no comparison between the two clubs where they come on top. But no. He just would not have it. He said being in London made them more high profile than us therefore they are bigger! I pointed out that by this logic Leyton Orient are a bigger club than villa. Biased cockney twats the lot of em. 
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: SirSteveUK on April 13, 2016, 07:07:40 PM
Quote
When beggars die, there are no comets seen...
The heavens themselves blaze forth the death of princes.
Quote
Chim, chimney
Chim, chimney
Chim, chim, cher-oo

We are the bastards in Claret and Blue.

I love them both  8)
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 13, 2016, 08:44:59 PM
To answer a couple of your questions.

It's not hard to imagine that's the case.

They probably read one of your posts.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: django on April 13, 2016, 09:12:55 PM
I'm pretty sure it's cos we're shit. That's why I hate us anyway.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: auntiesledd on April 13, 2016, 09:16:42 PM
Meh. 
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: russon on April 13, 2016, 09:23:16 PM
A lot of the noise being generated by our demise is effectively a back-handed compliment because its a genuine story that a club like us is imploding in full view of everyone. When a `Boro or Norwich get relegated its not big news but a club of our size and stature is another matter. The Germans have a word for it - schadenfreude - which apparently translates as revelling in someone else's discomfort, we just have to live with it - cos it aint gonna change anytime soon.
Well put, spot on
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on April 13, 2016, 09:28:59 PM
It happened to Newcastle.

I don't think they hate us as much as find it hilarious that, for a club of the size we are, we're so shit and going down.

Like we thought when we sent Newcastle down.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on April 13, 2016, 09:59:51 PM
Thread smells of a wind-up.

Treating it seriously - everyone wants to see a big club get humbled.

I've no particular beef with Arsenal or Everton (for example) but I'd love it if they went down.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: DeKuip on April 13, 2016, 10:47:14 PM
Anyone who uses their time spouting hate about anything on an Internet forum isn't really worth worrying about. They're the ones who need to be worried.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: alftitimus on April 14, 2016, 02:29:30 AM
OK...I take the points many have made about it all being joshin' and banter.

But, I've always believed that the major NUETRALS - the armchair / pub guys, who could become followers, had a soft spot for us, even as a second side.

We've never been dirty, like Leeds who have a really strong nationwide following and are truly hated.
We Have Never doled out multi-millions like both Manchester clubs ... but both have a genuine hardcore hatred on fan sites.

I really genuinely believed that we were an OK side with the nuetrals.

But I see nothing but sarcasm, puerile hate and possibly jealousy now.

A lot is made of our fan's comments about being a "Big Club" and hating the owner.

Not so much about our performances, but more directed at villa forums and US the fans posting our records of disaster thanks to Lambert/Sherwood/ etc They pinch that.

BUT...what I don't get is the "HATE"

That isn't "banter".
To wish a cancer on a player, seems to come from a villa fan, more than a stranger, but I've read that. It isn't "banter" beliueve me.

And it is followed by putrid abuse about us. Our brilliant fans.

Where in God's Name did this hate come from? Why do we deserve it ?

They aren't blouses or doghead forums - but minor and major club forums.

That is the shock to me. I always really believed that we were every fair-minded fan's
second choice team, in a game where their team wasn't involved, I always, really believed they'd support us.
That was my belief.

I've been really shocked by the venom about us, that I've read these last few days.

Pass it off as banter.
Pass it off as jealousy.
Ask me to Chill.

 :)

But I can't.

OK ?







Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Ian. on April 14, 2016, 02:33:09 AM
Eh? Who's jealous of us at the moment?!

Anyhow why does it bother you? Who cares what anyone else thinks and if you do I'd stay away from other fan sites.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: alftitimus on April 14, 2016, 03:20:09 AM
Eh? Who's jealous of us at the moment?!

Anyhow why does it bother you? Who cares what anyone else thinks and if you do I'd stay away from other fan sites.

Second stupid question first.  :)

I explained in the OP... WHY I searched.
WHY
I was upset by what I read.

The purpose of this thread.

Got It  Ian ?

First question.

Who is jealous of us ?

EVERYONE

Not of our position, TODAY, but of our records and history.

The facts that don't dissemble-- and the repeated Tweets, FB  and Forum comments about our history is a red-rag to them.
That's Why they attack us I'm now thinking....and why, I think, we have grown from a 'figure-of-fun'  to a "Hate".

Because of us. The Fans. Like you, laid back and joyous and assuming we'll survive and bounce back.

Good luck mate...I'm worried and not at all complacent !

Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on April 14, 2016, 03:20:42 AM
Eh? Who's jealous of us at the moment?!

Anyhow why does it bother you? Who cares what anyone else thinks and if you do I'd stay away from other fan sites.

It doesn't bother him.  He's a wind-up merchant.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: alftitimus on April 14, 2016, 03:40:55 AM
Eh? Who's jealous of us at the moment?!

Anyhow why does it bother you? Who cares what anyone else thinks and if you do I'd stay away from other fan sites.

It doesn't bother him.  He's a wind-up merchant.

OK..thanks...I didn't know that.
Me half-term is over, so I suppose I'll be a regular
un-regular poster again ;D

Bloody catch-up time on essays now... :-X

Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on April 14, 2016, 07:48:25 AM
OK...I take the points many have made about it all being joshin' and banter.

But, I've always believed that the major NUETRALS - the armchair / pub guys, who could become followers, had a soft spot for us, even as a second side.

We've never been dirty, like Leeds who have a really strong nationwide following and are truly hated.
We Have Never doled out multi-millions like both Manchester clubs ... but both have a genuine hardcore hatred on fan sites.

I really genuinely believed that we were an OK side with the nuetrals.

But I see nothing but sarcasm, puerile hate and possibly jealousy now.

A lot is made of our fan's comments about being a "Big Club" and hating the owner.

Not so much about our performances, but more directed at villa forums and US the fans posting our records of disaster thanks to Lambert/Sherwood/ etc They pinch that.

BUT...what I don't get is the "HATE"

That isn't "banter".
To wish a cancer on a player, seems to come from a villa fan, more than a stranger, but I've read that. It isn't "banter" beliueve me.

And it is followed by putrid abuse about us. Our brilliant fans.

Where in God's Name did this hate come from? Why do we deserve it ?

They aren't blouses or doghead forums - but minor and major club forums.

That is the shock to me. I always really believed that we were every fair-minded fan's
second choice team, in a game where their team wasn't involved, I always, really believed they'd support us.
That was my belief.

I've been really shocked by the venom about us, that I've read these last few days.

Pass it off as banter.
Pass it off as jealousy.
Ask me to Chill.

 :)

But I can't.

OK ?









NEUTRALS.

Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: mr underhill on April 14, 2016, 08:31:18 AM
Alf turn the volume down a little, please.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Chris Jameson on April 14, 2016, 10:34:06 AM
I think the 'hatred' and 'abuse' are possibly as a result of your style of posting and the jealousy is because their message boards don't have loads of fancy buttons to insert emoticons, colours and use different typefaces.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Ads on April 14, 2016, 11:57:40 AM
Does anybody else read some of Alfie's posts in the voice of Ralph Wiggum?
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Rioch is King on April 14, 2016, 12:53:38 PM
I used to like Newcastle united - then I started to associate them a hysterical Kevin Keegan and topless fat blokes sitting in plastic seats crying because they'd lost or got relegated and I went off them.

As a club you get the respect you deserve - if we play entertaining football and as fans behave in a good humoured but impassioned way -  then, in general,  the way people think of us will be more favourable.

HOwever, this thread is a wind-up.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: aj2k77 on April 14, 2016, 12:58:54 PM


HOwever, this thread is a wind-up.

I'm glad someone brought this up because every post I see from the originator is choc full of trollish language.

''laughing stock of football
At best I would have thought that we would always be a mid-table side that now and again picked up a fan or two who stuck with  us, and grew slowly.''

I'm calling him out as a pathetic, green eyed nose who's obsession yet again leads him to surrounding himself with Villa and Villa related chat. The prick.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Tony Erdington on April 14, 2016, 01:00:11 PM
I don't give a monkeys,

I do agree our position is ridiculous , though.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: aj2k77 on April 14, 2016, 01:00:31 PM
Oh and you are hated because you're a nasty little cess pit club with a shite following who haven't ever contributed anything towards football and have fans who rank as the most deluded in football.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on April 14, 2016, 01:45:52 PM
The OP seems to be a trader in negativity...
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: class-of-82 on April 14, 2016, 07:10:41 PM
A lot of the guys I work with in London all say they can't believe a club like ours is In the position we are and that it will be sad to see us go down
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on April 14, 2016, 07:17:01 PM
I expect Man U fans will be gutted at losing a guaranteed 6 points a season.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: KevinGage on April 14, 2016, 07:48:05 PM
The OP seems to be a trader in negativity...

The OP washes his dinner down with liquid ecstasy if he's actually serious about Neil Warnock.

Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on April 14, 2016, 10:52:41 PM
They're a sensitive lot those Geordies, for me this was one of the funniest piss takes ever at a football match. Why they can hate us for this is beyond me.

Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Percy McCarthy on April 15, 2016, 05:54:30 AM
Quote
When beggars die, there are no comets seen...
The heavens themselves blaze forth the death of princes.
Quote
Chim, chimney
Chim, chimney
Chim, chim, cher-oo

We are the bastards in Claret and Blue.

I love them both  8)

Me too. Especially the first one. Where's it from?
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Dave on April 15, 2016, 09:13:40 AM
Quote
When beggars die, there are no comets seen...
The heavens themselves blaze forth the death of princes.
Quote
Chim, chimney
Chim, chimney
Chim, chim, cher-oo

We are the bastards in Claret and Blue.

I love them both  8)

Me too. Especially the first one. Where's it from?

Shakespeare, Calpurnia's warning to Julius Caesar looking at the storms on the day he is murdered.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Percy McCarthy on April 15, 2016, 09:19:14 AM
Quote
When beggars die, there are no comets seen...
The heavens themselves blaze forth the death of princes.
Quote
Chim, chimney
Chim, chimney
Chim, chim, cher-oo

We are the bastards in Claret and Blue.

I love them both  8)

Me too. Especially the first one. Where's it from?

Shakespeare, Calpurnia's warning to Julius Caesar looking at the storms on the day he is murdered.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Ads on April 15, 2016, 09:38:38 AM
I think that Shakespeare kid has got a future you know.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on April 15, 2016, 03:04:11 PM
Shakespeare = Sheringham

Bacon = Cascarino
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: The Edge on April 15, 2016, 05:19:50 PM
I've spent the past 2/3 days, using my breaks, to scour other club forums.
About any reference to us, because a couple of work colleagues seem to think we are the
laughing stock of football. They ain't noses nor dogheads no idea who they support.
In fact I don't think they've ever been to any match in 10 years -
-perhaps they don't like me ?  :D

Anyway...... we are referenced on every bloody forum I've found so far.
Man U to Sheffield  U even.
Hartlepool and even Stevenage and Nuneaton.

And all of the cr@p I've seen is pick-ups from our sites. Records under Lambert, records about to be broken etc. All bad, and all with "jolly jape" comments by the clever supporters of BIG  clubs like the Dogheads.

I accept that we are a figure of fun to others, and one blouse forum is running a stupid thread about our demise that almost equals villa threads about their demise.
Perhaps it's time to make friends and break bread as they say ?  :D

It is about the "Hate" i'm concerned about.
Not just the petty jibes from our nearest rivals, but the viscious repitition of stats other fans have picked up-  from our own forums. JEEZ

I never realised we were hated

But, like Man Utd years ago we seem to have more people hate us than pity us.

At best I would have thought that we would always be a mid-table side that now and again picked up a fan or two who stuck with  us, and grew slowly.Globally.

I hate to say this, but the most common jibe / insult /comment I've read so far
--- is about us. The "fans"

We are supposed to be living in 'Victorian times' or living in the past.
We expect to be top-table because of our history

We have an owner who has sunk -  and may never recover - over £300 million in our club, and we HATE HIM.

So we, the fans who protest against him are the actual figures of fun.
The reason why we seem to be hated by other fans.

I would suggest,if you are as suicidal as I was, to use a search engine and trawl other forums.
Forget our locals - just go further afield, and see that we are hated.

WHY For Goodnss Sake ?
Why don't you go back to Small Heath. They are missing their village idiot.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Sexual Ealing on April 15, 2016, 06:28:59 PM
It varies from club to club.

All it took for Newcastle was a daft banner, as mentioned earlier. I thought it was a bit shit at the time, but it really seems to have gotten to them, the oddballs.

Everton do seem to genuinely despise us. I think a big part of that was the green eyed monster, when we had money early in the RL era, and looked like we would take their god-given right to be pushing for the CL.  I don't recall them being as bitter before, but older fans do mention the League Cup in the 1970s as the jumping off point.

Sunderland -who on the whole- tend to be some of the better fans in the league, have had a bee in their bonnet ever since Darren Bent ditched them in 2011. They genuinely couldn't understand why a bigger club that had been pushing towards the upper end of the table for a number of years previously might have been a more attractive option than a yo yo club marooned up in a city that makes Chernobyl look plush.

Norwich= Lambert.

Leicester= Brian Little

The rest would probably be largely indifferent to us, save for the fact that for the past five years we have acted like Southampton and Cov in the 80s and 90s -doing just enough to stay up and boring everyone into submission in the process.  Liverpool and Citeh fans do seem to have a bit of time for us, weirdly. In Citeh's case, it might be in a 'There but for the grace of God go I' way.

Our local neighbours don't count. And most of them can't count. Trophies or anything else.  Wolves and Forest seem to be a bit less rabid, because they actually seem to have pride in their own clubs' achievements.

I've seen it mentioned in a few places that we are delusional, and that we don't count as a big club because of our success pre WW2.

It's an odd sort of logic, but even if we follow that train of thought, we have still won, the FA Cup, the league, the European Cup, European Super Cup and League Cup five times since then. How many 'nothing' clubs have won nine major trophies from that period to this? Since football was invented in 1992, we've finished 2nd and 4th, and had a number of consistent top six finishes, plus won two league cups. That's a record not dissimilar to those fashionable North London titans Tottingham.

I'm always delighted to know that Keown OG, Ian Wright and the rest still hold us in such high regard, but our record is still infinitely better than most of the dross in the top flight - even if you amputate the Victorian era from our history (and why would you honestly want to do that).  So fuck'em.  Fuck' em all.

I've always found that Arsenal fans of a certain vintage, on hearing that I support Villa, always nod their approval and use words like 'noble', 'classy' and 'heritage'. Consequently I've always been better disposed towards Arsenal compared to the other good teams. I had a work meeting with a fella yesterday who used all of the words above.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Bottom Right 89 on April 15, 2016, 07:16:25 PM
Shame most Arsenal fans behaved like bellends after gubbing us in the Cup Final last year went down in my estimations in stark contrast to the Scousers who were a joy to spend a day out with.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Sexual Ealing on April 15, 2016, 07:41:47 PM
Shame most Arsenal fans behaved like bellends after gubbing us in the Cup Final last year went down in my estimations in stark contrast to the Scousers who were a joy to spend a day out with.

As I said, it's always been the middle-aged and older ones who've recognised the cachet of Villa. We all have our knobheads.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: passport1 on April 16, 2016, 10:32:37 AM
I think we are more pitied than hated.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Walmley_Villa on April 16, 2016, 10:56:13 AM
Hated by Baggies and noses plus Geordies. Would say most others pity or are indifferent.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: SoccerHQ on April 16, 2016, 11:05:13 AM
Pretty much.

Looking at a few club forums with no real rivarly with us (Stoke, West Brom and Spurs) and most are respectful of our big club status and can see the damage Lerner has done over last 5 years.

This thread is on a prominent West Ham forum (Our old mate Sendo pops up). Most are respectful of  our status.

http://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=163481&sid=65ca9d26356924b79e6c056e842d5a9e


It's always amusing when a big club internally explodes and gets relegated. I loved it when Leeds and Newcastle went down so have no issue with any neutral finding our demise amusing.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: avfc_1874 on April 16, 2016, 12:41:52 PM
It's only other midlands teams that really hate us. Fairly certain the original poster is on a wind up & probably bragging to his cyber buddies somewhere about his life acheivement.

Let them have their moment because most of them have waited a lifetime for this.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: itbrvilla on April 16, 2016, 05:00:28 PM
Some supporters see us like we see Newcastle.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: in exile on April 16, 2016, 05:17:37 PM
Lets be perfectly honest, do you (anyone) care if we are hated?
I know I don't
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: ChicagoLion on April 16, 2016, 05:21:51 PM
We are seen by some as a small club but with fans who believe we are a big club.
Let's face it, the club has been acting small time for several years now, thanks to Lerners idiotic stewardship.
I wonder if we will ever get back to being a big club again.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on April 16, 2016, 05:24:19 PM
I'm hoping Newcastle hate us even more next month.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: itbrvilla on April 16, 2016, 06:15:46 PM
We are seen by some as a small club but with fans who believe we are a big club.
Let's face it, the club has been acting small time for several years now, thanks to Lerners idiotic stewardship.
I wonder if we will ever get back to being a big club again.
Were not a big club. Done fuck all of note in over 2 decades.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: martin o`who?? on April 16, 2016, 07:26:11 PM
Judging by the number of supporters of other clubs wishing us well on the official club Facebook page I don't think that's necessarily the case at all.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Ads on April 16, 2016, 07:28:33 PM
Only Noses and Bitters would suggests we are anything but a big club and even they are lying to themselves.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: martin o`who?? on April 16, 2016, 07:29:06 PM
I'm hoping Newcastle hate us even more next month.
i don't wish that on them at all, this friction has developed a momentum of its own, all the Newcastle fans I've actually spoken to have been sound, I am genuinely sorry it's come to this between two great clubs.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: wittonwarrior on April 16, 2016, 10:04:08 PM
think its a bit  of a mishmash

Sunderland and Villa used to have quite a  good relationship between us.

Newcastle don't seem to get on with anyone.

Would say  we were as big a club as Tottenham

Everton and Villa see each other as  rivals - league cup 77/league cup 84 and a bit of tit for tat off the field over the years

The likes of the Sty and Albion would secretly love to  support a club like the Villa if truth be known.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: robbo1874 on April 16, 2016, 10:35:10 PM
It varies from club to club.

All it took for Newcastle was a daft banner, as mentioned earlier. I thought it was a bit shit at the time, but it really seems to have gotten to them, the oddballs.

Everton do seem to genuinely despise us. I think a big part of that was the green eyed monster, when we had money early in the RL era, and looked like we would take their god-given right to be pushing for the CL.  I don't recall them being as bitter before, but older fans do mention the League Cup in the 1970s as the jumping off point.

Sunderland -who on the whole- tend to be some of the better fans in the league, have had a bee in their bonnet ever since Darren Bent ditched them in 2011. They genuinely couldn't understand why a bigger club that had been pushing towards the upper end of the table for a number of years previously might have been a more attractive option than a yo yo club marooned up in a city that makes Chernobyl look plush.

Norwich= Lambert.

Leicester= Brian Little

The rest would probably be largely indifferent to us, save for the fact that for the past five years we have acted like Southampton and Cov in the 80s and 90s -doing just enough to stay up and boring everyone into submission in the process.  Liverpool and Citeh fans do seem to have a bit of time for us, weirdly. In Citeh's case, it might be in a 'There but for the grace of God go I' way.

Our local neighbours don't count. And most of them can't count. Trophies or anything else.  Wolves and Forest seem to be a bit less rabid, because they actually seem to have pride in their own clubs' achievements.

I've seen it mentioned in a few places that we are delusional, and that we don't count as a big club because of our success pre WW2.

It's an odd sort of logic, but even if we follow that train of thought, we have still won, the FA Cup, the league, the European Cup, European Super Cup and League Cup five times since then. How many 'nothing' clubs have won nine major trophies from that period to this? Since football was invented in 1992, we've finished 2nd and 4th, and had a number of consistent top six finishes, plus won two league cups. That's a record not dissimilar to those fashionable North London titans Tottingham.

I'm always delighted to know that Keown OG, Ian Wright and the rest still hold us in such high regard, but our record is still infinitely better than most of the dross in the top flight - even if you amputate the Victorian era from our history (and why would you honestly want to do that).  So fuck'em.  Fuck' em all.
great post KG,- cheered me up mate. Like others have said, I receive mainly sympathy, but I'd rather it was piss taking. Especially with people you know. The only person I know who has took the piss is a Cov fan who does the coffee van outside the swimming pool where I take my daughter to swimming lessons. He's actually alright, typical cov though, the bitterness laying not far from the surface. He was going on about Leicester yesterday, doesn't want them to win the league - the only person, I've heard say that- in between sly digs at me wearing my Villa shirt. I asked him if he wore his cov shirt when we sent them down at Villa Park. Arr, no but it weren't you sent us dahn, it were Derby.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: London Villan on April 16, 2016, 10:40:20 PM
Pity is much worse than piss-taking.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Louzie0 on April 16, 2016, 10:47:21 PM
Gosh, it's dreadful to be hated so much.

 

*shifts toothpick from one side to the other
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: newtonsballs on April 16, 2016, 11:16:54 PM
Gosh, it's dreadful to be hated so much.

 

*shifts toothpick from one side to the other

Superb
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Louzie0 on April 16, 2016, 11:25:16 PM
Gosh, it's dreadful to be hated so much.

 

*shifts toothpick from one side to the other

Superb

 ;)
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: martin o`who?? on April 17, 2016, 02:00:36 PM
The sheer, undiluted, hate from our erstwhile neighbors from small Heath is a joy to behold. - they really do have issues some of them, it does seem to go much deeper than just Football. It's almost a clinical disorder bordering on the pathological. Some of the Facebook warriors I am on with haven't posted one thing all season that didn't include us somewhere. No wonder they're so small-time, their own club just don't figure as long as they can have a pop at us. Sad really.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Jimbo on April 17, 2016, 02:04:11 PM
The sheer, undiluted, hate from our erstwhile neighbors from small Heath is a joy to behold. - they really do have issues some of them, it does seem to go much deeper than just Football. It's almost a clinical disorder bordering on the pathological. Some of the Facebook warriors I am on with haven't posted one thing all season that didn't include us somewhere. No wonder they're so small-time, their own club just don't figure as long as they can have a pop at us. Sad really.

They can't help it. But it's heartening to know we both share something in common. One thing defines both sets of fans: Aston Villa.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: somec on April 17, 2016, 02:16:10 PM
The sheer, undiluted, hate from our erstwhile neighbors from small Heath is a joy to behold. - they really do have issues some of them, it does seem to go much deeper than just Football. It's almost a clinical disorder bordering on the pathological. Some of the Facebook warriors I am on with haven't posted one thing all season that didn't include us somewhere. No wonder they're so small-time, their own club just don't figure as long as they can have a pop at us. Sad really.

They can't help it. But it's heartening to know we both share something in common. One thing defines both sets of fans: Aston Villa.

10 years ago if we told people the Blosers were obsessed with us they may not have believed us.

But now in this social media age they really show themselves up as the bitter obsessed ****** that they are.

It amuses me the level of hatred they feel for us.

Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: martin o`who?? on April 17, 2016, 02:35:46 PM
The sheer, undiluted, hate from our erstwhile neighbors from small Heath is a joy to behold. - they really do have issues some of them, it does seem to go much deeper than just Football. It's almost a clinical disorder bordering on the pathological. Some of the Facebook warriors I am on with haven't posted one thing all season that didn't include us somewhere. No wonder they're so small-time, their own club just don't figure as long as they can have a pop at us. Sad really.

They can't help it. But it's heartening to know we both share something in common. One thing defines both sets of fans: Aston Villa.

10 years ago if we told people the Blosers were obsessed with us they may not have believed us.

But now in this social media age they really show themselves up as the bitter obsessed c***s that they are.

It amuses me the level of hatred they feel for us.
i think some of them had abusive fathers who just happened to be Villa fans.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: auntiesledd on April 17, 2016, 09:34:35 PM
The sheer, undiluted, hate from our erstwhile neighbors from small Heath is a joy to behold. - they really do have issues some of them, it does seem to go much deeper than just Football. It's almost a clinical disorder bordering on the pathological. Some of the Facebook warriors I am on with haven't posted one thing all season that didn't include us somewhere. No wonder they're so small-time, their own club just don't figure as long as they can have a pop at us. Sad really.

They can't help it. But it's heartening to know we both share something in common. One thing defines both sets of fans: Aston Villa.
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The sheer, undiluted, hate from our erstwhile neighbors from small Heath is a joy to behold. - they really do have issues some of them, it does seem to go much deeper than just Football. It's almost a clinical disorder bordering on the pathological. Some of the Facebook warriors I am on with haven't posted one thing all season that didn't include us somewhere. No wonder they're so small-time, their own club just don't figure as long as they can have a pop at us. Sad really.

They can't help it. But it's heartening to know we both share something in common. One thing defines both sets of fans: Aston Villa.


Boom! Game, set & match Mr J.  ;)

Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: SoccerHQ on April 17, 2016, 09:42:29 PM
Just caught the end of it but looks like being relegated made the BBC 10pm news before MOTD last night.

I doubt the same thing would happen if Sunderland or Norwich went down.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: scott arms on April 19, 2016, 09:02:20 PM
We are hated always have been, we should hate back but double,loads of us villa do. :)
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: levico on April 19, 2016, 10:20:41 PM
Going forward, and I mean for quite some time, no one will have any extreme views about Villa either way.

Five years time - "oh yes, Villa. I'd forgotten about them. What league are they in these days?"
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: Ads on April 20, 2016, 09:08:04 AM
Nah that's garbage. The only clubs who currently hate us, will continue to do so. That's the Bitters and the Noses, who are Villa haters first and foremost.
Title: Re: Why Are WE Hated ?
Post by: lordmcgrath5 on April 20, 2016, 09:24:47 AM
Nah that's garbage. The only clubs who currently hate us, will continue to do so. That's the Bitters and the Noses, who are Villa haters first and foremost.

We're not hated at all apart from by the Noses, the Olbeeyoon and Coventry.

Neutral fans tend to be reasonably complimentary (sympathetic at the moment) when you tell them you're a Villa fan.

I've seen a lot of positive messages on Twitter from fans of all manner of PL clubs saying it's a shame such a big club are going down. Media coverage very similar on the whole, though it obviously goes into detail on our shambolic management and ownership over the last five seasons or so.
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