Manager for next season

[robbo1874]

Surely, if RDM knows he's got the job he'll already be doing any work he would be had he been announced anyway

There's nothing stopping him talking to people behind the scenes or discussing potential ins and outs despite not being officially unveiled due to the takeover being picked over by the authorities

There's no panic/rush for it to be formally announced at all as far as I can see

Agreed , sirlordbaltimore, very good points ..... and perhaps one of the most important issues surrounding the new Boss will be who he brings in with him. Will he , for instance ,  hire a former Championship Manager who has in depth experience of this League, as his assistant ( someone like Owen Coyle , for example) , similar to  Pearson at Derby.....................Godzvilla!

if we are to get out of the championship at the first time of asking, history would suggest that whoever is appointed has to bring in at least person oh his coaching team who has the ability to climb a step ladder and curl one out into a teacup on the floor. Without this particular skillset, I fear we are doomed to do a Coventry or a Leeds.

[robbo1874]

Those knocking the likes of McCarthy and Pearson need to have a wakeup call and be realistic about the position we currently find ourselves in.  If we were still a top flight club then maybe we could set our sights higher, but as it stands I think we are more likely to drop another division than return to the PL.  Given that I think our options are limited, and managers of their irk maybe as good as we could hope for right

In which case RDM, should be manna from heaven.

He's already got a managerial CV, most would kill for and is patently so many steps in front of the Mick McCarthy types he's already out of the ground.

I'm becoming more convinced that the fascination with McCarthy, Pearson et. al. is a desire to see some of the wastrels and wankers physically suffer violent retribution for last season.

Apart from Pearson only attacks opposition players and McCarthy by all accounts is someone his players would run through brick walls for, and not out of fear.

your post made me smile because before the Recon takeover was announced and the new possibilities it has turned up have emerged, that is exactly what I wanted- some psycho who would exact physical retribution on the wastrels! I still happen to think that instead of letting them fuck off to teneriffe, the ones not involved with their national teams should be sent on a bootcamp in the Australian outback until pre-season starts.

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Rafa Benitez has just won the European Cup by some of the logic on here.

[andyh]

Fuck it, I'm going to say it.
I'd take Bruce over RdM on a 12 month rolling contract.

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Fist Face made a right meal of promotion with Hull.

[Steve67]

Fuck it, I'm going to say it.
I'd take Bruce over RdM on a 12 month rolling contract.

Given Bruce's comments post match, I think this is a come and get me to Dr Xia. Bruce might be a more sensible option than Di Matteo but I'd like to see what RDM would do with Villa.

[Concrete John]

Compare with the ease Bournemouth came up and stayed up under someone that can actually coach something other than a rigid 4-4-bleeding-2 or it's exotic cousin 4411, 2 banks of 4, big strong guy up front, turn it back to front as quick as you like propogated by Bruce and McCarthy.

From my understanding, RDM likes to play 451.

Depending on how he sets it up, a nominal 451 can be quite fluid shifting between 4321, 451 and 433.

Alternatively a rigid 451 can be as eye-wateringly shit as a 2 banks of 4 442.

The difference between those variations is really down to the players picked in the midfield.  If they're attacking enough, it doesn't really matter how it's labelled or shown on a graphic on TV.

To my mind if you've got two wingers and three more defensively minded ones in the centre it becomes a 433.  Add a number 10 for a central player and you've got a 4231.  Pick a midfield without any real flair or width and that's your 451.

[PaulWinch again]

Fuck it, I'm going to say it.
I'd take Bruce over RdM on a 12 month rolling contract.

I wouldn't.

[olaftab]

I hope whoever it is and whatever formation they play it will be better than 1 1111111111 we played last season!

[Villa in Denmark]

Compare with the ease Bournemouth came up and stayed up under someone that can actually coach something other than a rigid 4-4-bleeding-2 or it's exotic cousin 4411, 2 banks of 4, big strong guy up front, turn it back to front as quick as you like propogated by Bruce and McCarthy.

From my understanding, RDM likes to play 451.

Depending on how he sets it up, a nominal 451 can be quite fluid shifting between 4321, 451 and 433.

Alternatively a rigid 451 can be as eye-wateringly shit as a 2 banks of 4 442.

The difference between those variations is really down to the players picked in the midfield.  If they're attacking enough, it doesn't really matter how it's labelled or shown on a graphic on TV.

To my mind if you've got two wingers and three more defensively minded ones in the centre it becomes a 433.  Add a number 10 for a central player and you've got a 4231.  Pick a midfield without ant real flair or width and that's your 451.

Exactly. It depends on how he sets it up and which players make up the 5.

[Malandro]

Fuck it, I'm going to say it.
I'd take Bruce over RdM on a 12 month rolling contract.

I wouldn't.

I'd be looking forward to a new manager the day he arrived

[paul_e]

Compare with the ease Bournemouth came up and stayed up under someone that can actually coach something other than a rigid 4-4-bleeding-2 or it's exotic cousin 4411, 2 banks of 4, big strong guy up front, turn it back to front as quick as you like propogated by Bruce and McCarthy.

From my understanding, RDM likes to play 451.

Depending on how he sets it up, a nominal 451 can be quite fluid shifting between 4321, 451 and 433.

Alternatively a rigid 451 can be as eye-wateringly shit as a 2 banks of 4 442.

The difference between those variations is really down to the players picked in the midfield.  If they're attacking enough, it doesn't really matter how it's labelled or shown on a graphic on TV.

To my mind if you've got two wingers and three more defensively minded ones in the centre it becomes a 433.  Add a number 10 for a central player and you've got a 4231.  Pick a midfield without ant real flair or width and that's your 451.

With our squad I'd go with 4231. Veretout and a very disciplined defensive option as the 2, then Ayew, Grealish and Adama as the 3.

[Concrete John]

Compare with the ease Bournemouth came up and stayed up under someone that can actually coach something other than a rigid 4-4-bleeding-2 or it's exotic cousin 4411, 2 banks of 4, big strong guy up front, turn it back to front as quick as you like propogated by Bruce and McCarthy.

From my understanding, RDM likes to play 451.

Depending on how he sets it up, a nominal 451 can be quite fluid shifting between 4321, 451 and 433.

Alternatively a rigid 451 can be as eye-wateringly shit as a 2 banks of 4 442.

The difference between those variations is really down to the players picked in the midfield.  If they're attacking enough, it doesn't really matter how it's labelled or shown on a graphic on TV.

To my mind if you've got two wingers and three more defensively minded ones in the centre it becomes a 433.  Add a number 10 for a central player and you've got a 4231.  Pick a midfield without ant real flair or width and that's your 451.

With our squad I'd go with 4231. Veretout and a very disciplined defensive option as the 2, then Ayew, Grealish and Adama as the 3.

I don't think we're strong enough in central midfield right now to play with just 2 there.  Plus, even though they'd be picked for their at tacking abilities, you need to keep a shape and track runs, which both Adama and Grealish are a bit too 'free spirited' to do in my opinion.  Probably get away with one of them playing a free role behind the striker, but not both.

My hope is that with a stronger manager and coaching set up that can be trained into them as I'd love to see that formation.  Still think we'd need a couple of midfield signings to make it work.

[Steve67]

We certainly lack physicality, generally as a side but certainly in midfield. I'd like us to sign someone for a deep lying role to suit and protect Grealish.  I also wish we could get the Richards who played for Man City back because that player, and Amavi shooting down the wings would help with whatever formation we play. Sadly, I think Richards is an arrogant busted flush who thinks he's better than he is.  Anyway, let's get the new Manager in this week and start sorting the wheat from the chaff.

[Bottom Right 89]

It was a really subdued celebration by Bruce at the final whistle today strange would not be surprised if he quit Hull this week.