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Offline SheffieldVillain

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #6060 on: May 28, 2016, 07:10:55 PM »
I presume all these that seem desperate for RDM to be appointed are those who not long ago wanted Paul Lambert ....where did that get us?

Yes, that's a logical assumption. They are very similar, after all. Or not.

The point is many wanted Lambert and look what happened ........

No, your point was that the same people who wanted Lambert want RDM.

Which is utter bollocks as far as assumptions go. Some may have, some may not.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #6061 on: May 28, 2016, 07:12:28 PM »
I presume all these that seem desperate for RDM to be appointed are those who not long ago wanted Paul Lambert ....where did that get us?

RDM ...yes he won Champions League at Chelsea but was that his team? Not really ........ How many other clubs are chasing him to manage them?
Pearson ...... 100% proven in Championship with teams that he build ........ more than Villa were interested in him this summer
McCarthy ..... 100% proven again and has worked with almost no money at Ipswich

My fear is that RDM will struggle with the task ahead in B6 ....... the dressing room ...do we know much about his man management?

I will support him if appointed but I do have serious doubts about him and the Championship has changed since he managed at the Baggies, I can't recall the state of their squad at the time but ours is the worst I am sure the majority of us have ever seen

Your presumption is shite. I wanted Lambert, but I couldn't care less for onion head.

Not from whats on here ......... RDM seems to be the majorities favourite

No, he's the majorettes favourite, the namby pamby bed wetters that are too scared of Nasty Nigel.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #6062 on: May 28, 2016, 07:17:07 PM »
Those knocking the likes of McCarthy and Pearson need to have a wakeup call and be realistic about the position we currently find ourselves in.  If we were still a top flight club then maybe we could set our sights higher, but as it stands I think we are more likely to drop another division than return to the PL.  Given that I think our options are limited, and managers of their irk maybe as good as we could hope for right

Yet you're the one knocking a manager who has a record that Pearson and McCarthy won't match if they manage for the next hundred years.

Maybe you might want to set your own wake-up call.

Dave, RDM has only managed two full seasons, one of those being MK Bloody Dons.

and in the other he got automatic promotion from the league we're now in with a team that had, just like us, been relegated.  So 1 season the championship where he was successful isn't enough experience, but a waste of space like McCarthy who's got propmoted twice in about 12 attempts is 'as good as we could hope for'.

Yet again people are falling into the trap of thinking that the championship is some strange footballing anomaly where there are special requirements needed to get out of it and only people who have tried and failed a few times stand any chance of working them out.  I seriously can't work out how the league has got the reputation it has, Hull have just been promoted from it with largely the same team that went down and were absolutely shit in premier league.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #6063 on: May 28, 2016, 07:42:03 PM »
Those knocking the likes of McCarthy and Pearson need to have a wakeup call and be realistic about the position we currently find ourselves in.  If we were still a top flight club then maybe we could set our sights higher, but as it stands I think we are more likely to drop another division than return to the PL.  Given that I think our options are limited, and managers of their irk maybe as good as we could hope for right

Yet you're the one knocking a manager who has a record that Pearson and McCarthy won't match if they manage for the next hundred years.

Maybe you might want to set your own wake-up call.

Dave, RDM has only managed two full seasons, one of those being MK Bloody Dons.

and in the other he got automatic promotion from the league we're now in with a team that had, just like us, been relegated.  So 1 season the championship where he was successful isn't enough experience, but a waste of space like McCarthy who's got propmoted twice in about 12 attempts is 'as good as we could hope for'.

Yet again people are falling into the trap of thinking that the championship is some strange footballing anomaly where there are special requirements needed to get out of it and only people who have tried and failed a few times stand any chance of working them out.  I seriously can't work out how the league has got the reputation it has, Hull have just been promoted from it with largely the same team that went down and were absolutely shit in premier league.

Playing exactly the kind of turgid,meat and potatoes football that's seen them struggle to stay up, then relegated, then scrape through the playoffs and almost certainly struggle again next season.

Compare with the ease Bournemouth came up and stayed up under someone that can actually coach something other than a rigid 4-4-bleeding-2 or it's exotic cousin 4411, 2 banks of 4, big strong guy up front, turn it back to front as quick as you like propogated by Bruce and McCarthy.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #6064 on: May 28, 2016, 07:55:12 PM »
Let's remember before we go off thinking RDM is the new great thing for us
He's not got the job yet

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #6065 on: May 28, 2016, 07:55:49 PM »
Those knocking the likes of McCarthy and Pearson need to have a wakeup call and be realistic about the position we currently find ourselves in.  If we were still a top flight club then maybe we could set our sights higher, but as it stands I think we are more likely to drop another division than return to the PL.  Given that I think our options are limited, and managers of their irk maybe as good as we could hope for right

Yet you're the one knocking a manager who has a record that Pearson and McCarthy won't match if they manage for the next hundred years.

Maybe you might want to set your own wake-up call.

Dave, RDM has only managed two full seasons, one of those being MK Bloody Dons.

and in the other he got automatic promotion from the league we're now in with a team that had, just like us, been relegated.  So 1 season the championship where he was successful isn't enough experience, but a waste of space like McCarthy who's got propmoted twice in about 12 attempts is 'as good as we could hope for'.

Yet again people are falling into the trap of thinking that the championship is some strange footballing anomaly where there are special requirements needed to get out of it and only people who have tried and failed a few times stand any chance of working them out.  I seriously can't work out how the league has got the reputation it has, Hull have just been promoted from it with largely the same team that went down and were absolutely shit in premier league.
Slavisa Jokanovic had one season in the Championship and got Watford promoted but I didn't see anybody calling for him.

McCarthy? I wouldn't want McCarthy anywhere near Villa Park except in the Opposition dugout. I just find it funny how so many want to sing the praises of RDM when he was at Chelsea for 8 months of which 3 were out of season. From my understanding he did a cracking job in the Championship with Albion but he's still very inexperienced as a manager. That's not saying he can't fix us, you only have to look to Spain to see successful coaches doing the business with next to no experience. It can be done. It's a risk but then who isn't.

Pearson would have been the obvious choice if he wasn't such a nutter. It may have been worth the risk but he's now no longer available. Let's see how the Championship shapes up, it should be tougher with ourselves and Newcastle, not to mention Norwich in there. The only 'strange footballing anomaly where there are special requirements' is you need to win lots of games, something we haven't done for a very long time. One thing in RDM's favour is he is a winner. What I expect is we'll spend big in the summer and a mentality change will see us go up, hopefully in some style.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #6066 on: May 28, 2016, 07:59:14 PM »
Compare with the ease Bournemouth came up and stayed up under someone that can actually coach something other than a rigid 4-4-bleeding-2 or it's exotic cousin 4411, 2 banks of 4, big strong guy up front, turn it back to front as quick as you like propogated by Bruce and McCarthy.

From my understanding, RDM likes to play 451.

Offline Tony Erdington

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #6067 on: May 28, 2016, 08:01:13 PM »
we wont be getting Fat Ed then, after hull been promoted.

btw excellent Wednesday fans

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #6068 on: May 28, 2016, 08:39:21 PM »
Compare with the ease Bournemouth came up and stayed up under someone that can actually coach something other than a rigid 4-4-bleeding-2 or it's exotic cousin 4411, 2 banks of 4, big strong guy up front, turn it back to front as quick as you like propogated by Bruce and McCarthy.

From my understanding, RDM likes to play 451.

Depending on how he sets it up, a nominal 451 can be quite fluid shifting between 4321, 451 and 433.

Alternatively a rigid 451 can be as eye-wateringly shit as a 2 banks of 4 442.

Offline N'ZMAV

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #6069 on: May 28, 2016, 08:42:27 PM »
Whoever comes in, obviously it seems like it'll be RDM, needs to have a few different options. Not having different systems and ways of playing is one of the main reasons MON couldn't get us into the top 4. The new manager needs a plan A, B & C.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #6070 on: May 28, 2016, 08:42:34 PM »
I'm sorry, but this 'Pearson was the obvious choice' stuff makes no sense. Yes he got Leicester up, but he spent loads of seasons muddling around in mid-table. There's nothing to suggest, from his record, that he'd be better than RDM.

Offline N'ZMAV

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #6071 on: May 28, 2016, 08:44:11 PM »
Pearson is a ticking time-bomb. We can't afford any more madness or bad press.
Time for a reliable manager who knows what he's doing.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #6072 on: May 28, 2016, 08:46:29 PM »
Agreed however that's not Di Matteo.

Offline N'ZMAV

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #6073 on: May 28, 2016, 08:59:11 PM »
Who is it?

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #6074 on: May 28, 2016, 09:55:34 PM »
I said that ;)

 


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