Manager for next season

[PeterWithesShin]

Yes all is wonderful. We are in The Championship aren't we? We do need massive surgery in the Summer. Getting a manager in was as King and Bernstein recognised (apparently) was a priority. Let Derby and co get on with it we're the Villa .......ffs

And what exactly would RDM be doing if he had already been appointed? We can't sign anyone until we know who our owner is, i'd imagine all the players at the club are away now so he can't be looking at them. Which is why to me it doesn't matter if last week or next week is his appointment.

[sickbeggar]

The new owners may have their own ideas rather than Pearson and RDM hence the delay. If those were the recommendations from King and Bernstein, maybe seeing they were punted out by lerner, they are looking again? Not a bad thing IMO

[Rudy Can't Fail]

The real nonsense of this is that Pearson has absolutely no record of 'sorting the wankers out', the only spells where he's achieved anything have both been with Leicester and neither spell came with a 'there's a bunch of arseholes ho aren't putting the effort in' requirement.  It appears that for some if you act like a complete tosser by grabbing opposition players by the throat and being a complete dick to the press it means you've got great man management skills.

If you ignore that well documented fact that his players loved him, you may have a point. It appears that for some if you only focus on Pearson as a complete tosser by grabbing opposition players by the throat and being a complete dick to the press it means you give more importance to his outbursts than his overall ability to fix the huge problems at Villa Park.

Everybody we've been linked with comes with risks; Moyes, Pearson, RDM. There's no obvious candidate that you feel 'yes' he's exactly what we need.

[cdbearsfan]

I get that feeling from RDM.

[BOB MANSFIELD]

Evening.
I certainly feel this adoration of de M  is misplaced.
Can't stand him. Remember the FA Cup final ?
Also heard he went missing at WBA.
My choice would also be Mark Warburton........if it were not for the fact it would ruin the Gers' 1st season back with the big boys in Scotland !
Hope we get a name no-one has considered, so we can all scratch our heads about how things will go....and watch this space.

[sickbeggar]

I'm wondering what all the people dismissing Di Matteo as being "too nice" know that I don't?

Have they all been in his teams' dressing rooms? For all I know he could be a ruthless bastard behind the scenes. Who knows?

In any case, the last manager to get us promoted, the last manager to win us a trophy and the manager who has just win the league are all widely perceived to be "nice", so maybe it's not that much of a handicap?

Well i certainly wouldn't have wanted to get on the wrong side of SGT in his Villa days. Decent, respected, maybe even nice but you wouldn't want to cross him imo. Don't think RDM has quite the same feel about him.

Why? How can you possibly know what he's like to the players behind closed doors?

I don't. Maybe he turns into a raging beast. I just doubt it. Garde didn't strike me as the type either. He probably wasn't.

So would you say that, when it comes to appointing a manager, your gut instinct of how the manager might be, based on nothing whatsoever, is more important than past managerial success?

Not exactly. I know RDM was a joker as a player who was very much liked by all his teammates with not a bad side about him. He certainly wasn't Roy Keane - not that that's a bad thing. The question i'd ask is why can you imagine say Ferguson, Allardyce, Pardew, Bentitez, SGT, Wenger even, totally losing their shit with the players every now and then? You don't know they do anymore than RDM but you can imagine it.  RDM you can't. Just like there's  nice guys at work you've never seen lose it but you can imagine it, but there's others you just can't in a millions years. As i said mebbe he's a smiling laidback gentlemen in public but becomes a boot throwing beast in the dressing room

Anyway i don't want someone who loses their rag every week or so. The shock wears off on the players and becomes less effective, but i want the threat there

[SheffieldVillain]

Not exactly. I know RDM was a joker as a player who was very much liked by all his teammates with not a bad side about him. He certainly wasn't Roy Keane - not that that's a bad thing. The question i'd ask is why can you imagine say Ferguson, Allardyce, Pardew, Bentitez, SGT, Wenger even, totally losing their shit with the players every now and then? You don't know they do anymore than RDM but you can imagine it.  RDM you can't. Just like there's  nice guys at work you've never seen lose it but you can imagine it, but there's others you just can't in a millions years. As i said mebbe he's a smiling laidback gentlemen in public but becomes a boot throwing beast in the dressing room

Anyway i don't want someone who loses their rag every week or so. The shock wears off on the players and becomes less effective, but i want the threat there

Claudio Ranieri? Can you imagine him totally losing his shit? Carlo Ancelotti? There's more than one way of doing things.

[sickbeggar]

Not exactly. I know RDM was a joker as a player who was very much liked by all his teammates with not a bad side about him. He certainly wasn't Roy Keane - not that that's a bad thing. The question i'd ask is why can you imagine say Ferguson, Allardyce, Pardew, Bentitez, SGT, Wenger even, totally losing their shit with the players every now and then? You don't know they do anymore than RDM but you can imagine it.  RDM you can't. Just like there's  nice guys at work you've never seen lose it but you can imagine it, but there's others you just can't in a millions years. As i said mebbe he's a smiling laidback gentlemen in public but becomes a boot throwing beast in the dressing room

Anyway i don't want someone who loses their rag every week or so. The shock wears off on the players and becomes less effective, but i want the threat there

Claudio Ranieri? Can you imagine him totally losing his shit? Carlo Ancelotti? There's more than one way of doing things.

Erm Ranieri i can and i think its been mentioned during his time at Chelsea. But you're right not every manager does it that way, but then not every Manager is coming into our dressing room

[aj2k77]

Can't stand him. Remember the FA Cup final ?

Jesus, if we can't hire a manger because he scored against us when he played then god help us in another 15 years time, there will be no one to pick from.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

I get that feeling from RDM.

You're easily pleased, ya big tart.

[Nunkin1965]

True. If we're going to rule out people who have dared to score or play against us the field of potential managers will be very thin.

We lost that Cup Final because we didn't get out of our own half until he scored.

[Villafirst]

Pearson was the obvious choice in such a tough league. Even Sir Dennis  Mortimer said Pearson was the best choice to sort this horrendous mess out.

[Chinchilla Bathhouse]

What is this apparent obsession for our next manager to be a shit-losing banger of heads?  Is it simply because there are so many of our players people would like to punch?  Is that it? Vengeance?  Payback time?  We're hankering for a hard man to administer the slaps we're personally unable to dish out?  I'd rather have someone who can manage a football club without violence (or even the threat of it) being the key part of his armoury - not least because (as has been said countless times before but has still failed to register) we've been down that route with Roy Keane and Lambert's henchmen and it was a total failure.   

[kippaxvilla2]

Well done Villa another one gets away.  Why have someone like Nigel Pearson who has success at both championship and Pl level and doesn't stand any shit when you can take a gamble on Di Matteo instead?  Why bring in totally proven managers who always get their teams out of relegation saving them hundreds of millions of pounds in the process when you can have completely unproven hadn't worked in two years Remi Garde instead.  Good work.  Let's just go for a novelty manager signing.

[kippaxvilla2]

Not exactly. I know RDM was a joker as a player who was very much liked by all his teammates with not a bad side about him. He certainly wasn't Roy Keane - not that that's a bad thing. The question i'd ask is why can you imagine say Ferguson, Allardyce, Pardew, Bentitez, SGT, Wenger even, totally losing their shit with the players every now and then? You don't know they do anymore than RDM but you can imagine it.  RDM you can't. Just like there's  nice guys at work you've never seen lose it but you can imagine it, but there's others you just can't in a millions years. As i said mebbe he's a smiling laidback gentlemen in public but becomes a boot throwing beast in the dressing room

Anyway i don't want someone who loses their rag every week or so. The shock wears off on the players and becomes less effective, but i want the threat there

Claudio Ranieri? Can you imagine him totally losing his shit? Carlo Ancelotti? There's more than one way of doing things.

Can I imagine ranieri losing his temper you mean?  Yes absolutely I can!