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Offline Chinchilla Bathhouse

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5925 on: May 27, 2016, 10:17:10 PM »
Well done Villa another one gets away.  Why have someone like Nigel Pearson who has success at both championship and Pl level and doesn't stand any shit when you can take a gamble on Di Matteo instead?  Why bring in totally proven managers who always get their teams out of relegation saving them hundreds of millions of pounds in the process when you can have completely unproven hadn't worked in two years Remi Garde instead.  Good work.  Let's just go for a novelty manager signing.

Champions League, FA Cup and Championship promotion winner = novelty manager.  Christ on a bike.

Offline conman

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5926 on: May 27, 2016, 10:19:48 PM »
Well done Villa another one gets away.  Why have someone like Nigel Pearson who has success at both championship and Pl level and doesn't stand any shit when you can take a gamble on Di Matteo instead?  Why bring in totally proven managers who always get their teams out of relegation saving them hundreds of millions of pounds in the process when you can have completely unproven hadn't worked in two years Remi Garde instead.  Good work.  Let's just go for a novelty manager signing.
exactly mate , its unbelievable geoff

Offline SheffieldVillain

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5927 on: May 27, 2016, 10:22:22 PM »
Well done Villa another one gets away.  Why have someone like Nigel Pearson who has success at both championship and Pl level and doesn't stand any shit when you can take a gamble on Di Matteo instead?  Why bring in totally proven managers who always get their teams out of relegation saving them hundreds of millions of pounds in the process when you can have completely unproven hadn't worked in two years Remi Garde instead.  Good work.  Let's just go for a novelty manager signing.

Nigel Pearson has 1 promotion from the Championship and kept Leicester up. He has done nothing of note at any of his other clubs.
Roberto Di Matteo has 1 promotion from the Championship and was sacked with Chelsea in 3rd and WBA above the relegation zone. He won a Champions League and an F.A. Cup with Chelsea and finished 6th with Schalke.

How does that make Pearson proven and Di Matteo not?

Offline cdbearsfan

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5928 on: May 27, 2016, 10:24:10 PM »
Because... not foreign. And good at shouting.

Online Toronto Villa

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5929 on: May 27, 2016, 10:26:12 PM »
Where's bobcat? He had it nailed on through his ITK that Pearson was the new boss as soon as relegation was confirmed.

Offline SheffieldVillain

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5930 on: May 27, 2016, 10:27:03 PM »
Where's bobcat? He had it nailed on through his ITK that Pearson was the new boss as soon as relegation was confirmed.

To be fair, that might have been the case if the takeover hadn't happened?

Offline paul_e

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5931 on: May 27, 2016, 10:27:19 PM »
The real nonsense of this is that Pearson has absolutely no record of 'sorting the wankers out', the only spells where he's achieved anything have both been with Leicester and neither spell came with a 'there's a bunch of arseholes ho aren't putting the effort in' requirement.  It appears that for some if you act like a complete tosser by grabbing opposition players by the throat and being a complete dick to the press it means you've got great man management skills.

If you ignore that well documented fact that his players loved him, you may have a point. It appears that for some if you only focus on Pearson as a complete tosser by grabbing opposition players by the throat and being a complete dick to the press it means you give more importance to his outbursts than his overall ability to fix the huge problems at Villa Park.

Everybody we've been linked with comes with risks; Moyes, Pearson, RDM. There's no obvious candidate that you feel 'yes' he's exactly what we need.

How is players liking him proof that he can 'sort out the wankers'?  Did you actually read my post before replying?

To clarify because if you did read it you've got the whole thing backwards; I don't think he has any experience of doing what people are saying he would come in and do.  I think the only reason people think he can come in and do it is because he acted like a twat a few times.  If you look entirely at their records RDM is a far superior manager who has experience of dealing with exactly the issue we find ourselves in and making  a success of it.  I don't know why people don't like him but he's about the best option we have and always was.


Well done Villa another one gets away.  Why have someone like Nigel Pearson who has success at both championship and Pl level and doesn't stand any shit when you can take a gamble on Di Matteo instead?  Why bring in totally proven managers who always get their teams out of relegation saving them hundreds of millions of pounds in the process when you can have completely unproven hadn't worked in two years Remi Garde instead.  Good work.  Let's just go for a novelty manager signing.


Are you serious?  RDM (playoffs with MK dons, promoted with baggies, CL and FA cup with Chelsea) is a bigger risk than Pearson (your definition of success at PL level is much looser than mine, bottom until April suggest the only thing that was a success was a late push to escape relegation, which clearly trumps 2 trophies).


I'm going to assume the mention of Bruce was trolling but just in case Bruce is in the championship because he has proven himself to be far too shit to manage at a higher level, RDM hasn't managed in the championship for 6 years because he's proven himself to be too good for that level but for some that proof is being used as evidence that he's not good enough, which is just bizarre.

Offline Chinchilla Bathhouse

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5932 on: May 27, 2016, 10:28:51 PM »
Because... not foreign. And good at shouting.

Of course.  Some people won't be happy until we appoint Brian Blessed.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5933 on: May 27, 2016, 10:30:02 PM »
Not exactly. I know RDM was a joker as a player who was very much liked by all his teammates with not a bad side about him. He certainly wasn't Roy Keane - not that that's a bad thing. The question i'd ask is why can you imagine say Ferguson, Allardyce, Pardew, Bentitez, SGT, Wenger even, totally losing their shit with the players every now and then? You don't know they do anymore than RDM but you can imagine it.  RDM you can't. Just like there's  nice guys at work you've never seen lose it but you can imagine it, but there's others you just can't in a millions years. As i said mebbe he's a smiling laidback gentlemen in public but becomes a boot throwing beast in the dressing room

Anyway i don't want someone who loses their rag every week or so. The shock wears off on the players and becomes less effective, but i want the threat there

Claudio Ranieri? Can you imagine him totally losing his shit? Carlo Ancelotti? There's more than one way of doing things.

They don't need to.

Just pay the vet for the requisite number of horses heads. Job's a guddun.

Offline VillaAlways

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5934 on: May 27, 2016, 10:30:10 PM »
RDM just doesn't feel right at all. Just don't think he's got what it takes to turn us around and my instinct was that Pearson was the man for the job

Would be absolutely delighted to be proved wrong though obvs

Offline paul_e

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5935 on: May 27, 2016, 10:30:42 PM »
Because... not foreign. And good at shouting.

Of course.  Some people won't be happy until we appoint Brian Blessed.

Depends, he's only allowed to join if he promises to punch at least 2 players in the face at the press conference when he's announced, that'll show em.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5936 on: May 27, 2016, 10:32:33 PM »
I just don't see how promotion after a few attempts and just staying up at one club is better than promotion at the first time of asking with one club and then giving them their best ever start in the PL, and at another club winning the Champions League and the FA Cup, plus being 3rd in the PL.

Offline paul_e

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5937 on: May 27, 2016, 10:39:18 PM »
because RDM has never had to take over a club that's just been relegated from the premier league and try to get them back up first time ... nope did that with the baggies.
ok, he's never been a club with massive expectations where he needed to win things  ... nope did that at Chelsea.
He's never had big money to spend and bought in players who were better than most in the league ... Fuck he signed Hazard.
ok, he's never acted like tit in a press conference - knew we'd get there in the end.

Offline kippaxvilla2

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5938 on: May 27, 2016, 10:39:58 PM »
I'm not saying anymore about it.  Let's see who goes up in a years time.  I wish Robbie all the best I've nothing against him.  I just think it take a certain horse for this repellant league.  But as I say let's see where Derby and Newcastle are compared to us in a years time.

Offline b23

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5939 on: May 27, 2016, 10:40:41 PM »
you got to hand it to matteo , he is a good dresser and wears smart suits ,

And got a relegated team promoted at the first time of asking.

And won the European Cup.

Yeah but apart from that what has he ever done?

Scored the second fastest FA Cup Final goal.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/29643208

 


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