Manager for next season

[aev]

Tends to be a tad easier to appoint a manager when a club isn't in the midst of changing owners.

Garde left eons ago.

[SheffieldVillain]

Erm, tin hat on, but I think Steve Bruce would be a safer appointment than RDM. There, I said it.  I wonder who RDM's backroom staff will be, hopefully they will know the league and players we might need.

So if we can't have a British Bulldog hoofball-peddling breast-beating knows-the-Championship type manager, hopefully we'll get a whole team of British Bulldog hoofball-peddling breast-beating knows-the-Championship type coaches in the dugout to make up for it?

Also conveniently ignoring the fact that Di Matteo has managed in the Championship, lives in England and that a good 90% of his signings for Albion and MK Dons were from British clubs. How does that mean he 'doesn't know the league'?  What is really meant is 'isn't English', isn't it - not a dig at your post in particular Newby, but a general point.

[Chinchilla Bathhouse]

Didn't take Derby long to sort their manager. Villa have messed around for weeks on the manager appointment. If it's RDM, why is it taking so long? Disappointed that Pearson has moved to Derby while Villa continue to dither as usual.

Didn't take long?! Derby sacked Clement in February! Pearson was available at the time. Why not go for him then, when they still had a chance of promotion? I mean it's a certainty with him, apparently. They'd have gone up for sure.

I do wish people would lay off finding opportunities to slag off our club at every single turn. Christ knows we've fucked plenty of things up recently, but another club appointing a manager doesn't mean we're "dithering as usual" and it's "yet another fuck up".  Give yourselves a break.

[PeterWithesShin]

Tends to be a tad easier to appoint a manager when a club isn't in the midst of changing owners.

Garde left eons ago.

It was pretty pointless bringing in a new manager for the last 7 games and we don't know how long the takeover has been going on behind the scenes.

[passport1]

Didn't take Derby long to sort their manager. Villa have messed around for weeks on the manager appointment. If it's RDM, why is it taking so long? Disappointed that Pearson has moved to Derby while Villa continue to dither as usual.

Exactly the point I was making. MON was appointed before the previous take over went thru. If RDM was their man from day one they should have gone and got him.  They have made a rod for their own backs.

[SheffieldVillain]

Didn't take Derby long to sort their manager. Villa have messed around for weeks on the manager appointment. If it's RDM, why is it taking so long? Disappointed that Pearson has moved to Derby while Villa continue to dither as usual.

Exactly the point I was making. MON was appointed before the previous take over went thru. If RDM was their man from day one they should have gone and got him.  They have made a rod for their own backs.

Except, as has been pointed out, Derby sacked their manager in February i.e. before Garde left Villa. So in actual fact, they've been 'messing around' for longer than Villa.

[PeterWithesShin]

Didn't take Derby long to sort their manager. Villa have messed around for weeks on the manager appointment. If it's RDM, why is it taking so long? Disappointed that Pearson has moved to Derby while Villa continue to dither as usual.

Exactly the point I was making. MON was appointed before the previous take over went thru. If RDM was their man from day one they should have gone and got him.  They have made a rod for their own backs.

MON was appointed less than two weeks before Lerner officially took over, both in August when time was much more of the essence with the season about to start. I really don't think it matters a jot if RDM was appointed last week or is appointed next week.

[Zouch Villa]

Didn't take Derby long to sort their manager. Villa have messed around for weeks on the manager appointment. If it's RDM, why is it taking so long? Disappointed that Pearson has moved to Derby while Villa continue to dither as usual.

Exactly the point I was making. MON was appointed before the previous take over went thru. If RDM was their man from day one they should have gone and got him.  They have made a rod for their own backs.

Except, as has been pointed out, Derby sacked their manager in February i.e. before Garde left Villa. So in actual fact, they've been 'messing around' for longer than Villa.

I'm not letting facts get in the way of another good moan. Typical dithering from the Villa again. Dr X out!

[Gary Penrice]

Re: the new poll I've chosen "Any Other" now Pearson is out of the running.

My choice now would be Mark Warburton.

[Villafirst]

Yeah, but we've had Eric fucking Black in charge - another shite decision. Let's hope Xia's regime is a lot better at decision making.

[Steve67]

Erm, tin hat on, but I think Steve Bruce would be a safer appointment than RDM. There, I said it.  I wonder who RDM's backroom staff will be, hopefully they will know the league and players we might need.

So if we can't have a British Bulldog hoofball-peddling breast-beating knows-the-Championship type manager, hopefully we'll get a whole team of British Bulldog hoofball-peddling breast-beating knows-the-Championship type coaches in the dugout to make up for it?

Also conveniently ignoring the fact that Di Matteo has managed in the Championship, lives in England and that a good 90% of his signings for Albion and MK Dons were from British clubs. How does that mean he 'doesn't know the league'?  What is really meant is 'isn't English', isn't it - not a dig at your post in particular Newby, but a general point.

Blimey, completely misinterpreted my post. I didn't say he doesn't know the league. I certainly don't give a shit whether he's English or not. I was simply stating that Bruce, given he's already plying his trade in that very league, might be less of a risk than Roberto Di Matteo. Who, if appointed will no doubts prove very interesting.

[passport1]

Yes all is wonderful. We are in The Championship aren't we? We do need massive surgery in the Summer. Getting a manager in was as King and Bernstein recognised (apparently) was a priority. Let Derby and co get on with it we're the Villa .......ffs

[aev]

Tends to be a tad easier to appoint a manager when a club isn't in the midst of changing owners.

Garde left eons ago.

It was pretty pointless bringing in a new manager for the last 7 games and we don't know how long the takeover has been going on behind the scenes.

Well the wisdom of it all will become apparent next season. What would have happened if the takeover hadn't gone through....the club then would have missed the opportunity to get a manager in to appraise the squad ahead of next season, allowing us to hit the ground running.

[SheffieldVillain]

Erm, tin hat on, but I think Steve Bruce would be a safer appointment than RDM. There, I said it.  I wonder who RDM's backroom staff will be, hopefully they will know the league and players we might need.

So if we can't have a British Bulldog hoofball-peddling breast-beating knows-the-Championship type manager, hopefully we'll get a whole team of British Bulldog hoofball-peddling breast-beating knows-the-Championship type coaches in the dugout to make up for it?

Also conveniently ignoring the fact that Di Matteo has managed in the Championship, lives in England and that a good 90% of his signings for Albion and MK Dons were from British clubs. How does that mean he 'doesn't know the league'?  What is really meant is 'isn't English', isn't it - not a dig at your post in particular Newby, but a general point.

Blimey, completely misinterpreted my post. I didn't say he doesn't know the league. I certainly don't give a shit whether he's English or not. I was simply stating that Bruce, given he's already plying his trade in that very league, might be less of a risk than Roberto Di Matteo. Who, if appointed will no doubts prove very interesting.

Completely didn't read my post. If you did you would have seen the 'not a dig at your post in particular Newby - a general point' comment.

[cdbearsfan]

I'm wondering what all the people dismissing Di Matteo as being "too nice" know that I don't?

Have they all been in his teams' dressing rooms? For all I know he could be a ruthless bastard behind the scenes. Who knows?

In any case, the last manager to get us promoted, the last manager to win us a trophy and the manager who has just win the league are all widely perceived to be "nice", so maybe it's not that much of a handicap?

Well i certainly wouldn't have wanted to get on the wrong side of SGT in his Villa days. Decent, respected, maybe even nice but you wouldn't want to cross him imo. Don't think RDM has quite the same feel about him.

Why? How can you possibly know what he's like to the players behind closed doors?

I don't. Maybe he turns into a raging beast. I just doubt it. Garde didn't strike me as the type either. He probably wasn't.

So would you say that, when it comes to appointing a manager, your gut instinct of how the manager might be, based on nothing whatsoever, is more important than past managerial success?