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Offline OCD

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5190 on: May 22, 2016, 11:14:26 PM »
Moyes does seem to have a better eye for a player than most managers - http://footballburp.com/lists/top-20-david-moyes-signings-for-everton/. Especially good at taking players from Championship clubs which might be useful - Cahill, Baines, Stones, Bent etc.

Offline SheffieldVillain

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5191 on: May 22, 2016, 11:25:27 PM »
Moyes does seem to have a better eye for a player than most managers - http://footballburp.com/lists/top-20-david-moyes-signings-for-everton/. Especially good at taking players from Championship clubs which might be useful - Cahill, Baines, Stones, Bent etc.

Some cracking bargains in there - £60k for Coleman, £2m for Arteta, £4m for Jagielka, £6m for Baines, £1.5m for Cahill, £3m for Stones, £5m for Mirallas. A little bit of that would do nicely when rebuilding the squad.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5192 on: May 22, 2016, 11:48:45 PM »
Isn't it nice to be debating the merits of managers that have won things or finished in the top 6 and dreaming of rising again rather than worry and argue over if Potato head or Mick McCarthy are coming in and having to find a spot for Gabby.

My brother is the manager at PWS's new favourite convenience store, and converses often with another regular at said establishment. To protect identities, let's call him Hary Wags. Hary, with his ITK, reckoned that Garde would be gone before Bournemouth, and that potato-head was replacing him.
Seems like a different lifetime now.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5193 on: May 23, 2016, 12:00:30 AM »
I'd love for us to hit the plateau that Moyes did with Everton.

Me too. I think people are ignoring what an absolute state we're in. If, within five years, we're regularly finishing 6th in the top flight I'll be pretty happy.

This may interest you, Everton fans discuss the possibility of Moyes returning to Goodison. Clicky

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"Stabilised us but couldn't take us any further"

I'd take the stabilising he did for them in a heartbeat and so, I'd guess, would any rational Villa supporter. 

That's about the level of my expections with Moyes. If he can get us up and get things organised on and off the pitch we'll be in a good place to take the next step. With the money that's been talked about available, it shouldn't take a genius to sort it out. I just hope the new board realise that the legacy of MON was not the fairytale some seem to think. A smart board and an accountable manager would be a massive improvement.

Despite the many shortcomings I think Moyes has, it's his experience more than anything we're paying for. It's up to him to find the strength and desire to drive the club forward at a pace that he may find challenging.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5194 on: May 23, 2016, 12:33:22 AM »
Let's not talk about this as if it is a done deal yet. Dr Ghost could spook us all by appointing Alan Curbishley or Phil Orange.

Offline tomd2103

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5195 on: May 23, 2016, 12:37:59 AM »
I'd love for us to hit the plateau that Moyes did with Everton.

Me too. I think people are ignoring what an absolute state we're in. If, within five years, we're regularly finishing 6th in the top flight I'll be pretty happy.

This may interest you, Everton fans discuss the possibility of Moyes returning to Goodison. Clicky

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"Stabilised us but couldn't take us any further"

I'd take the stabilising he did for them in a heartbeat and so, I'd guess, would any rational Villa supporter. 

That's about the level of my expections with Moyes. If he can get us up and get things organised on and off the pitch we'll be in a good place to take the next step. With the money that's been talked about available, it shouldn't take a genius to sort it out. I just hope the new board realise that the legacy of MON was not the fairytale some seem to think. A smart board and an accountable manager would be a massive improvement.

Despite the many shortcomings I think Moyes has, it's his experience more than anything we're paying for. It's up to him to find the strength and desire to drive the club forward at a pace that he may find challenging.

Exactly.  Let's say in a four year period, he can take us up and get us firmly established in the top ten, but he hits a wall.  If there is strong financial backing up at the club, we will then be looking at the calibre of manager who should be able to take us to the next step.  For example, I've heard names such as De Boer, Emery (Sevilla manager) and  Jochim Loew being linked with the Everton job.  That's the calibre we could be looking at then.  Moyes is ideal for where we are now (in my opinion of course!).

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5196 on: May 23, 2016, 01:17:01 AM »
As others have said my only concern with Moyes is for the longer term and can he really push into the upper reaches of the Premier League if and when we get there. I just hope we've all learnt from the MON era when I think many of us myself included were blinded to his weaknesses. I'd like to think I could spot that type of glass ceiling again.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5197 on: May 23, 2016, 01:23:49 AM »
As others have said my only concern with Moyes is for the longer term and can he really push into the upper reaches of the Premier League if and when we get there. I just hope we've all learnt from the MON era when I think many of us myself included were blinded to his weaknesses. I'd like to think I could spot that type of glass ceiling again.

Exactly.  To revisit history a little, imagine the candidates we would have been looking at had Lerner and Faulkner called time on O'Neill at the start of the summer instead of him walking out towards the end if it.  We had just finished sixth and been to a Wembley final.  Lerner proved that next season that he was still willing to spend.  We could have attracted some good names. 

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5198 on: May 23, 2016, 02:04:47 AM »
Let's put a clause in Moyes contract. On the occasion of successive sixth place PL finishes, we reserve the right to be whiny ingrates.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5199 on: May 23, 2016, 02:07:37 AM »
That's going to be one bloody long contract. I'd prefer a rolling one year contract.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5200 on: May 23, 2016, 02:09:07 AM »
He won't get us sixth.

Offline Stirchley Villain

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5201 on: May 23, 2016, 02:14:59 AM »
He won't get us sixth.
Hello Mystic Meg. We've been expecting you...

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5202 on: May 23, 2016, 02:16:52 AM »
He won't get us sixth.
Hello Mystic Meg. We've been expecting you...

Topical.

Anyway, it's just a guess like anything else, but I think his shot at being a real top-level manager is over. Not that he needs to be for us, mind.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5203 on: May 23, 2016, 02:18:49 AM »
He won't get us sixth.
Hello Mystic Meg. We've been expecting you...

On loan from the Remain campaign ;)

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5204 on: May 23, 2016, 02:24:52 AM »
He won't get us sixth.
Hello Mystic Meg. We've been expecting you...

On loan from the Remain campaign ;)

No wonder you want Moyes, he'd keep us out of Europe no problem. *winking whatnot*

 


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