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Offline MoetVillan

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4815 on: May 19, 2016, 10:51:07 PM »
Or Mourinho in about 11 months

Offline ozzjim

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4816 on: May 19, 2016, 11:46:28 PM »
Shalke finished 6th under Di Matteo after he had from October. They finished 5th this season. He had a tough run of 2 wins in 10 to fall out of the champions league places but they were doing very well.

When he left Chelsea they had been playing ok in the league, and as we have seen this season even Mourinho can have a rough season and go out of the Champions League early there. He got Albion up first time playing some good football, and generally seems to have done well most places. I can understand why he might be under consideration. I would still prefer Moyes of course.

Offline aj2k77

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4817 on: May 19, 2016, 11:53:59 PM »
Chelsea were 3rd when they got rid of Di Matteo, 23 pts from 11 games.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4818 on: May 19, 2016, 11:55:12 PM »
Chelsea were 3rd when they got rid of Di Matteo, 23 pts from 11 games.

A points per game that would have just about won them the league last season.

Offline SoccerHQ

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4819 on: May 19, 2016, 11:59:52 PM »
I can only think our transfer policy will be changing now. Under Hollis and Bernstein it was clearly going to be British this, British that, managers, players the lot.

Clearly Doctor Tony will be wanting to sign players from europe as most foreign owners tend to want to do and he probably won't fancy appointing an egotistic British manager who'll be signing overpriced players from here (MON, Pulis, Steve Bruce etc).

Edit: One of the better things Lerner would've said in any conversation between the two is make sure you don't appoint a manager who gets your wage bill up to 90% of your turnover or whatever ridiculous level it was around 2010.

That's maybe one of the reasons RDM has probably come onto the radar, he'll have contacts in various countries with regards player recruitment.

I'm not sure it's as cut and dried though. I wonder about Rodgers. SPL is equivalent to championship level and that's probably being generous given the impact some of their "star" players make in the leagues e.g Leigh Griffiths was struggling to score at Wolves in league one and instantly goes up to Scotland and scores 30 goals.

If he's happy enough to go up there I wonder if an exciting Villa project to rebuild the club with plenty of money to spend would tempt him even if it isn't the premier league.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4820 on: May 20, 2016, 12:53:19 AM »
I reckon Rodgers might well be the other one he is talking about too Soccer.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4821 on: May 20, 2016, 12:55:59 AM »
I voted Moyes back in the dim and distant but the more I think about him I worry that he's lost his lustre as far as players are concerned. When he was at Everton, without a failure on his CV, I imagine that it was easy enough for them to toe the line as he knew what he was doing. Post-Man Utd and Sociedad I can see the likes of Richards and Sinclair, at the first sign of Mr Discipline knocking on the door, thinking 'jog on. We'll wait it out till you get sacked. Again.'

And in that spirit I vote Howard Wilkinson.

Offline Ron Manager

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4822 on: May 20, 2016, 05:16:04 AM »
It appears that Nigel Pearson is the choice of Steve Hollis but Zia is impressed that Di Matteo
won the Champions League with Chelsea.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4823 on: May 20, 2016, 06:29:56 AM »
I really cannot understand people justifying RDM as the best choice on the basis he is now favourite. Who selected him before he was in the frame? His wins with Chelsea were with an established team on multi million pound contracts, a totally different situation to Villa, therefore totally irrelevant.

It has to be Moyes for me. An ideal long term solution.

Offline passitsideways

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4824 on: May 20, 2016, 06:45:07 AM »
I really cannot understand people justifying RDM as the best choice on the basis he is now favourite. Who selected him before he was in the frame? His wins with Chelsea were with an established team on multi million pound contracts, a totally different situation to Villa, therefore totally irrelevant.

It has to be Moyes for me. An ideal long term solution.

Who here has been saying he's the best choice? All people have really done is point out that he's achieved some pretty decent things which make any hiring reasonable - previous success with obtaining promotion from the Championship, shouldn't be out of touch with the modern game and a reputation for decent football.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4825 on: May 20, 2016, 06:57:13 AM »
If as Dr Tone says that if we are not towards the top of the league by a certain point in the season, the Manager will be gone, especially if he does give them £20 million to spend?

Personally I would like either Moyes or Pearson,


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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4826 on: May 20, 2016, 07:03:39 AM »
I have clearly stated i would prefer Moyes. I also think Rodgers is a good shout.  If it came to Di Matteo or Pearson it would be a tough call as i can see the merit of Pearson but would prefer Di Matteo. People are just pointing out a guy that had got promoted won the fa cup and Champs league is a decent shout.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4827 on: May 20, 2016, 07:08:00 AM »
I have clearly stated i would prefer Moyes. I also think Rodgers is a good shout.  If it came to Di Matteo or Pearson it would be a tough call as i can see the merit of Pearson but would prefer Di Matteo. People are just pointing out a guy that had got promoted won the fa cup and Champs league is a decent shout.

I flip the first two names but agree with this. None of them are bad candidates imho.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4828 on: May 20, 2016, 07:10:17 AM »
and there's no guarantee he (RDM) can do it again and it was a long-time ago and in vastly different circumstances - it's like saying 'well I made Revolver, or Blonde on Blonde or Pet Sounds, so of course I can scale those heights again.' I wanted Moyes but maybe he's had his day in the sun too. I hate the fucker, but right now I think Pearson would be the best fit provided their were enough checks and balances in the contract.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4829 on: May 20, 2016, 07:18:40 AM »
I really cannot understand people justifying RDM as the best choice on the basis he is now favourite. Who selected him before he was in the frame? His wins with Chelsea were with an established team on multi million pound contracts, a totally different situation to Villa, therefore totally irrelevant.

It has to be Moyes for me. An ideal long term solution.

Who here has been saying he's the best choice? All people have really done is point out that he's achieved some pretty decent things which make any hiring reasonable - previous success with obtaining promotion from the Championship, shouldn't be out of touch with the modern game and a reputation for decent football.

He's a good starter. I'd expect him gone way before our rise to galactic domination is complete. And I'm not even sure if I'm joking!
Moyes, well, yeah, but I feel he'd want a new Everton-style project, ten years, compete in the top half, respected yet never admired, ultimately futile and trophyless. Twenty years now we've had no pots. Fuck that, I want some excitement, some glory. It's what it's all about for me. We're Aston Villa, we used to win stuff, let's get on with it. And I'm more than ready to risk the trip in a Chinese-built rocket with a payload of disposable pilots rather than a regularly serviced mondeo driven by a careful Scotsman.

 


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