Quote from: villa for life on May 12, 2016, 02:51:01 PMMartinez would be an absolutely diabolical appointment. He's just a terrible manager. Whelan was very good at "bigging" Martinez up and EFC fell for it big time. People hail what he did at Wigan, but he actually had some pretty good players there. Also compared with what "smaller" teams like Leicester, Bournemouth and Watford have achieved this season, his "achievements" are really nothing to write home about. Sure, there were a golden few months at Everton when his overly attacking football blended well with the defensive side that Moyes had created. Moyes didn't dare to add flair to his side at the expense of defensive strength and when Martinez did this, it all clicked, but as with all his teams, EFC this season have all shown extreme defensive frailties despite having such wonderfully gifted players. So for a while, he got away with it, but this season, he's been found out again.Look at that Everton side. Had Moyes stayed, he'd have had them top four or even top this season. I'd go as far as to say that out of all the teams, Everton have had the most disappointing season, after us of course!I think you're drastically overrating Everton's squad. Okay, Lukaku's a top player, but looking at the attacking players behind him, a lot of them are arguably horribly erratic; they have a bunch of runners without creativity in midfield; and from their defenders, Stones and Funes Mori still have a lot to develop while Baines and Jagielka are past it.As for Wigan, what "pretty good players" did he have there? Looking through their squads for their final two seasons under Martinez, I think Al-Habsi, McCarthy and Diame were alright, Moses was a pretty decent winger, Kone a useful goalscorer, but otherwise, pretty much a truckload of shit.For the record, I don't want him here but I don't think it's necessary to discount what he did at Wigan, and exaggerate his failure at Everton.
Martinez would be an absolutely diabolical appointment. He's just a terrible manager. Whelan was very good at "bigging" Martinez up and EFC fell for it big time. People hail what he did at Wigan, but he actually had some pretty good players there. Also compared with what "smaller" teams like Leicester, Bournemouth and Watford have achieved this season, his "achievements" are really nothing to write home about. Sure, there were a golden few months at Everton when his overly attacking football blended well with the defensive side that Moyes had created. Moyes didn't dare to add flair to his side at the expense of defensive strength and when Martinez did this, it all clicked, but as with all his teams, EFC this season have all shown extreme defensive frailties despite having such wonderfully gifted players. So for a while, he got away with it, but this season, he's been found out again.Look at that Everton side. Had Moyes stayed, he'd have had them top four or even top this season. I'd go as far as to say that out of all the teams, Everton have had the most disappointing season, after us of course!
Hold on....remember Dave Whelan the ex-Wigan chairman persuaded Martinez not to take the Villa manager's job a few years ago? You know, Dave said he was destined for great things at a much bigger club than Villa.....how things change!
Quote from: andyh on May 12, 2016, 01:34:54 PMQuote from: Countryside Villain on May 12, 2016, 01:32:03 PMMartinez now very much available....again.We weren't good enough for him (or Whelan) before. Fuck him.100% this
Quote from: Countryside Villain on May 12, 2016, 01:32:03 PMMartinez now very much available....again.We weren't good enough for him (or Whelan) before. Fuck him.
Martinez now very much available....again.
Oscar Garcia./taps nose
That's probably enough to have the rumours start back up about Red Bull buying us.
Quote from: PeterWithesShin on May 12, 2016, 08:06:26 PMOscar Garcia./taps noseooh*heads to oddschecker*
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