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Online Dave

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4395 on: May 12, 2016, 05:08:37 PM »
Martinez would be an absolutely diabolical appointment. He's just a terrible manager.

Whelan was very good at "bigging" Martinez up and EFC fell for it big time. People hail what he did at Wigan, but he actually had some pretty good players there. Also compared with what "smaller" teams like Leicester, Bournemouth and Watford have achieved this season, his "achievements" are really nothing to write home about.

Sure, there were a golden few months at Everton when his overly attacking football blended well with the defensive side that Moyes had created. Moyes didn't dare to add flair to his side at the expense of defensive strength and when Martinez did this, it all clicked, but as with all his teams, EFC this season have all shown extreme defensive frailties despite having such wonderfully gifted players. So for a while, he got away with it, but this season, he's been found out again.

Look at that Everton side. Had Moyes stayed, he'd have had them top four or even top this season. I'd go as far as to say that out of all the teams, Everton have had the most disappointing season, after us of course!

I think you're drastically overrating Everton's squad. Okay, Lukaku's a top player, but looking at the attacking players behind him, a lot of them are arguably horribly erratic; they have a bunch of runners without creativity in midfield; and from their defenders, Stones and Funes Mori still have a lot to develop while Baines and Jagielka are past it.

As for Wigan, what "pretty good players" did he have there? Looking through their squads for their final two seasons under Martinez, I think Al-Habsi, McCarthy and Diame were alright, Moses was a pretty decent winger, Kone a useful goalscorer, but otherwise, pretty much a truckload of shit.

For the record, I don't want him here but I don't think it's necessary to discount what he did at Wigan, and exaggerate his failure at Everton.

Apart from the cup win (which I appreciate is a pretty huge "apart from"), isn't what he did at Wigan "relegate a side that Steve Bruce and Paul Jewell kept up fairly comfortably"?

Offline Villafirst

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4396 on: May 12, 2016, 06:21:32 PM »
Hold on....remember Dave Whelan the ex-Wigan chairman persuaded Martinez not to take the Villa manager's job a few years ago? You know, Dave said he was destined for great things at a much bigger club than Villa.....how things change!

Offline Big Dick Edwards

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4397 on: May 12, 2016, 06:36:35 PM »
Hold on....remember Dave Whelan the ex-Wigan chairman persuaded Martinez not to take the Villa manager's job a few years ago? You know, Dave said he was destined for great things at a much bigger club than Villa.....how things change!

He was destined for Barcelona, I recall..

Offline oswald funkletrumpet

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4398 on: May 12, 2016, 08:04:16 PM »
Martinez now very much available....again.
We weren't good enough for him (or Whelan) before. Fuck him.


100% this

and again

i wonder if kenwright still has martinezs plan to get them in the champions league

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4399 on: May 12, 2016, 08:06:26 PM »
Oscar Garcia.

/taps nose

Online pauliewalnuts

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4400 on: May 12, 2016, 08:07:56 PM »
Oscar Garcia.

/taps nose

ooh

*heads to oddschecker*

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4401 on: May 12, 2016, 08:09:16 PM »
He's supposedly on our list of potential targets. So don't bet you house!

Online pauliewalnuts

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4402 on: May 12, 2016, 08:10:00 PM »
Where did you hear that?


Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4403 on: May 12, 2016, 08:17:04 PM »
Mate of a mate type thing yesterday. Far from gospel, but the nose tap will look ace if it turns out to be him!

Offline oswald funkletrumpet

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4404 on: May 12, 2016, 08:18:55 PM »
someone has probably put a 50 quid bet on

Offline OCD

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4405 on: May 12, 2016, 08:20:23 PM »
That's probably enough to have the rumours start back up about Red Bull buying us.

Online Russ aka Big Nose

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4406 on: May 12, 2016, 08:28:03 PM »
That's probably enough to have the rumours start back up about Red Bull buying us.

What he said - cue several pages of posts - though better that than dodgy racial puns.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4407 on: May 12, 2016, 08:30:07 PM »
I reckon this story will have wings!

/runs

Offline Chris Jameson

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4408 on: May 12, 2016, 08:32:46 PM »
Oscar Garcia.

/taps nose

ooh

*heads to oddschecker*

*googles him*

He's foreign, no chance.

Offline Allan C

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #4409 on: May 12, 2016, 08:43:10 PM »
I think Martinez is a non-starter but what really worries me is that Nigel Adkins is now available and it wouldn't surprise me if our fools would go for him. Very scary. I'm also sure that a manager with "championship experience" is not essential to get us out of there. I hope we show some imagination and employ a manager who will rebuild playing football, not one who is employed cos he is likely to beat the shit out of our current wasters

 


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