Quote from: SheffieldVillain on April 12, 2016, 09:37:13 PMQuote from: Rudy Can't Fail on April 12, 2016, 09:16:09 PMI don't think anybody has said we would be fools not to hire, Pearson but only a blind man would fail to see he's left every club in a better place than when he found them. Nutter he may be but his record ain't half bad.And yet despite this record, almost every club has decided to dispense with his services in controversial circumstances.Carlisle - Kept them up but sacked anywaySouthampton - Kept them up but sacked anywayLeicester #1 - About to be replaced by Paulo Sousa so walkedLeicester #2 - Kept them in Premier but board couldn't work with him any longerCoincidence? Or impossible to work with? He wasn't doing too badly at Smethwick until they replaced him with Tony Mowbray and we all know how that ended.
Quote from: Rudy Can't Fail on April 12, 2016, 09:16:09 PMI don't think anybody has said we would be fools not to hire, Pearson but only a blind man would fail to see he's left every club in a better place than when he found them. Nutter he may be but his record ain't half bad.And yet despite this record, almost every club has decided to dispense with his services in controversial circumstances.Carlisle - Kept them up but sacked anywaySouthampton - Kept them up but sacked anywayLeicester #1 - About to be replaced by Paulo Sousa so walkedLeicester #2 - Kept them in Premier but board couldn't work with him any longerCoincidence? Or impossible to work with?
I don't think anybody has said we would be fools not to hire, Pearson but only a blind man would fail to see he's left every club in a better place than when he found them. Nutter he may be but his record ain't half bad.
Quote from: Clampy on April 12, 2016, 09:39:20 PMQuote from: SheffieldVillain on April 12, 2016, 09:37:13 PMQuote from: Rudy Can't Fail on April 12, 2016, 09:16:09 PMI don't think anybody has said we would be fools not to hire, Pearson but only a blind man would fail to see he's left every club in a better place than when he found them. Nutter he may be but his record ain't half bad.And yet despite this record, almost every club has decided to dispense with his services in controversial circumstances.Carlisle - Kept them up but sacked anywaySouthampton - Kept them up but sacked anywayLeicester #1 - About to be replaced by Paulo Sousa so walkedLeicester #2 - Kept them in Premier but board couldn't work with him any longerCoincidence? Or impossible to work with? He wasn't doing too badly at Smethwick until they replaced him with Tony Mowbray and we all know how that ended.Well there's another one to add to the list then - won 3 out of 4 games, but the board didn't want to keep him.There's a pattern here. Generally decent results but getting sacked anyway. That's not normal, not 5 times in a managerial career.
Can't that same argument be levelled at Chris Hughton? Nice bloke, does a decent, even good job wherever he has been. Got fired after a short period at each club he's been at.* the Noses aside
Quote from: Toronto Villa on April 12, 2016, 10:31:46 PMCan't that same argument be levelled at Chris Hughton? Nice bloke, does a decent, even good job wherever he has been. Got fired after a short period at each club he's been at.* the Noses asideI suppose it could, yes. Although generally it isn't after a very public fall-out, as it is with Pearson.
Quote from: SheffieldVillain on April 12, 2016, 10:36:53 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on April 12, 2016, 10:31:46 PMCan't that same argument be levelled at Chris Hughton? Nice bloke, does a decent, even good job wherever he has been. Got fired after a short period at each club he's been at.* the Noses asideI suppose it could, yes. Although generally it isn't after a very public fall-out, as it is with Pearson.Chris Hughton has secured promotions from the Championship with two different clubs though.
Quote from: IAmTheOneIanOlney on April 12, 2016, 05:34:15 PMI saw speculation linking Bielsa with Everton yesterday. I don't think how much it costs to get rid of Martinez will be that much of an issue with [b[the new money in the club[/b] and the TV cash going up, and Martinez is increasingly unpopular there.I really wanted Moyes at first, but I'm coming round to the idea of Rodgers. He did good things at Swansea. And he has a lovely portrait of himself in his house.What new money?Farhad Moshiri paid however many millions for a 49% share. The money went to the consortium that owned the club, of which Kenwright was by far the largest shareholder.That consortium still owns a controlling interest, but Moshiri is now the largest single shareholder.From a purely financial viewpoint the transition makes no sense if the expectation is that he'll pump money into a venture where he has no control.
I saw speculation linking Bielsa with Everton yesterday. I don't think how much it costs to get rid of Martinez will be that much of an issue with [b[the new money in the club[/b] and the TV cash going up, and Martinez is increasingly unpopular there.I really wanted Moyes at first, but I'm coming round to the idea of Rodgers. He did good things at Swansea. And he has a lovely portrait of himself in his house.
Hughton was doing a decent job at Newcastle too but got dumped because they felt he wasn't a big enough name for them. He's a bit conservative with the football but would be ok. Is ok enough though?
Quote from: Holte L2 on April 12, 2016, 10:44:22 PMQuote from: SheffieldVillain on April 12, 2016, 10:36:53 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on April 12, 2016, 10:31:46 PMCan't that same argument be levelled at Chris Hughton? Nice bloke, does a decent, even good job wherever he has been. Got fired after a short period at each club he's been at.* the Noses asideI suppose it could, yes. Although generally it isn't after a very public fall-out, as it is with Pearson.Chris Hughton has secured promotions from the Championship with two different clubs though. And that's the bizarre thing. He got two clubs promoted yet within a year or so he got fired and neither club was in any significant trouble. Whether it is a public falling out, a mutual parting of the ways or your bog standard firing he still was forced to leave the club.
I seem to remember there being a general feeling that he had been very hard done by when he was sacked at Newcastle. I recall a lot of their supporters not being overly pleased.
Not too many managers walk of their own accord. Far more often than not they'll get fired.