Quote from: pauliewalnuts on April 10, 2016, 10:53:47 PMIt doesn't matter how much stick a fan is giving you - that is part of the game - you can not turn around and shout at them to "fuck off and die".It's really that simple. What about the other people sat around who would have heard that? The bloke has no self control, he's a proven timebomb waiting to go off.I don't know about that. In your job and my job we're not allowed to snap like that, no matter how much somebody's pissing us off. But if for a period 6 or 7 hours over the previous month we'd had somebody shouting "you're a fucking twat! You're a disgrace! Fuck off!" at us when we were trying to work, I don't think it's the crime of the century to bite back a bit.Obviously it'd be better if it didn't happen but who can say how much abuse someone ought to take?
It doesn't matter how much stick a fan is giving you - that is part of the game - you can not turn around and shout at them to "fuck off and die".It's really that simple. What about the other people sat around who would have heard that? The bloke has no self control, he's a proven timebomb waiting to go off.
Quote from: Sexual Ealing on April 10, 2016, 10:58:59 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on April 10, 2016, 10:53:47 PMIt doesn't matter how much stick a fan is giving you - that is part of the game - you can not turn around and shout at them to "fuck off and die".It's really that simple. What about the other people sat around who would have heard that? The bloke has no self control, he's a proven timebomb waiting to go off.I don't know about that. In your job and my job we're not allowed to snap like that, no matter how much somebody's pissing us off. But if for a period 6 or 7 hours over the previous month we'd had somebody shouting "you're a fucking twat! You're a disgrace! Fuck off!" at us when we were trying to work, I don't think it's the crime of the century to bite back a bit.Obviously it'd be better if it didn't happen but who can say how much abuse someone ought to take?Yeah, but then again, if we had 30,000 people shouting "you fat wanker" or somesuch at us, we wouldn't like that, either.Players don't turn round and tell the fans to fuck off, and neither should managers. "Fuck off and die" is a particularly horrible thing to say, too.I'd rather not have a classless c*** like that managing our club. We might have had our dignity dragged through the mud in recent years, but that'd be too much for me.And then there's all the other Pearson baggage - and for what? A manager with an entirely underwhelming record.
Regardless of the stick you are getting, you cannot tell someone to fuck off and die. Yes, Pearson is human, but this shows me he can't handle pressure.
In other news, I can't work out whether this is a pitch or somebody serving up a very cold dish that their dog discovered in Jersey called 'Revenge': http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/04/10/aston-villa-could-only-be-in-championship-for-a-seasonthey-may-w/
Quote from: Newby on April 10, 2016, 11:05:19 PMRegardless of the stick you are getting, you cannot tell someone to fuck off and die. Yes, Pearson is human, but this shows me he can't handle pressure. yes he told him to fuck off and die , but in a cool and calm way without loosing his temper , he could have taken the eric cantona method of responding , but he didnt
Fuck off and die wasn't a good choice of words. But had he just told him to fuck off, after sustained abuse I can absolutely see why he snapped and said something. To me it doesn't show that he can't take pressure. It shows that one person after a lot of very personal abuse got to him to provoke that reaction.
Quote from: Toronto Villa on April 10, 2016, 11:13:02 PMFuck off and die wasn't a good choice of words. But had he just told him to fuck off, after sustained abuse I can absolutely see why he snapped and said something. To me it doesn't show that he can't take pressure. It shows that one person after a lot of very personal abuse got to him to provoke that reaction. It's not just a one off though is it? He lost his rag with a junior reporter after a fairly innocuous question, then again the next week with Pat Murphy, not to mention the 'joke'' throttling.
Quote from: SheffieldVillain on April 10, 2016, 11:15:24 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on April 10, 2016, 11:13:02 PMFuck off and die wasn't a good choice of words. But had he just told him to fuck off, after sustained abuse I can absolutely see why he snapped and said something. To me it doesn't show that he can't take pressure. It shows that one person after a lot of very personal abuse got to him to provoke that reaction. It's not just a one off though is it? He lost his rag with a junior reporter after a fairly innocuous question, then again the next week with Pat Murphy, not to mention the 'joke'' throttling. yeah he would sort those birmingham mail journalists out
If Nigel Pearson walked into Villa Park tomorrow he won't give a shit about the culture. Neither would Moyes. He'd be greeted by Hollis, the new board and told hold amazing the place can be again. He'd meet the players and would tell them in August to forget about the previous season because there's nothing that can be done. Along with new players he brings in they can make changes to the current without it being affected by any residual culture. It's not like a new manger or players would arrive at Villa and the weeds are growing, the lights don't work, the paint is peeling off the walls due to some neglect. They will be met by a sensational stadium and a new board looking very much to put things right quickly. Get a few wins and things change very quickly.